new 'SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK' thread

[tibsy]

hi ladies, the other one ran out of space, so if no one else starts a new thread, here it is....

That's great . Even though DS sleeps in his cot, I still being him into bed for his early morning feed, plus I sometimes nap with him in bed in the afternoon. You haven't banned your LO altogether, you're just choosing when to bed share

Evening all,

Another okayish night two wakings again 3 & 5am, wants bf on both times.

He is now 23 weeksand last week weighed 16lbs 7oz weaning is on my mind. Started thread earlier about pro / cons of blw which escalated on to another thread

Have any of you tried early weaning to try and combat the poor sleep?

On a good note though got ds to nap twice today - 30 mins both times - go me!!

Hope you all get some good sleep...

my shift, and no wake up since i first put him down at 6.30... dont want to get too excited, but its been a better evening than it often is so far!!!

maebee - that's great! Doesn't it make a difference to have an evening downstairs! I haven't had one of those for a couple of weeks but ds has a cold now so I can forgive him for hte moment...

Lemonadegirl: I started weaning at about 23 weeks, not cos of the sleep thing but because I'll be off to work when DS turns 6 months and didn' t want to combine the two. If anything, he's been more unsettled - prob due to new stuff in diet. He does enjoy it though!

oh my god!! expecting a worse night, and it was the best night in ages! all in all, there were 5 wakings, including one evening one, but he never took more than 10 minutes to uput down again (takes so much longer when he goes down asleep!) and, best of all, he slept 10 til 2 (my shift!) i got 4 hrs in a row. had to go and check on him at 2 tho, when i woke panicked. 30 pupds in all. i was expecting hundreds.
fed at 9.30 and then at 2 after i possibly distsurbed him. feel so pleased. and he woke up just now,all smiles.
am not expecting next night to go as smoothly, but its such a good start.
hurrah!

morning all

maebee well done on such a gud nite!!!!

To be honest lack of sleep isgettingme down dd went bad at 7 dream feeda at 10 woke yp at 1.30 gave a feed up and down as her dummy kept coming out finally back to sleep at 2.30 and a wake at 6doesnt sound bad i iknow but it the 6 get up that is killing me i cant cope

Gingerninja- did you find out wat it was that was causing her wakings?

youngmum - clocks change this wkend. . . and ive got it right this time!. . . so the wakeup will be more like 7 than 6. consolation for me, hope it is for you. xxx.

sigh, my LO was quite settled last night (by usual standards), but woke up to BF at 9.30, 11, 1.00, 2.30, 4.30 and then was awake for the day, but crying at 7,15 because he was so tired. sigh.

morning all. youngmum and amber bad night. If it's possible make sure you go back to bed this morning when lo does.
Maebee well doen. Sounds like a huge success. stay positive. Tonight will be the same and this time next week will be even better as ds knows what to expect and gets used to the whole thing
It's amazing how good you feel if you get 4 solid hours sleep isn't it! if someone had told you that a year ago you'd have been horrified!

i know wot you mean amber lo is grumpy cuz she tired from getting up at 6 but am determined to keep her a wake till 9 so that her naps arent all over the place for the rest of the day!!!

Am also going to cut down her naps from today see if that stops the early mornig wakings!
how much sleep is every one elses lo geting aday? My lo is 19weeks old and has about 4 hours through out the day is that to much?

Tamdin am counting down the min till i can crawl bback in to bed!!!

Yes am hoping the clock change will be to my advantage

Didn't get DS into his crib til midnight last night 'cause DH was down the pub and I waited til he got back rather than have him wake up DS stumbling in after I'd got him settled. But then we only had one night feed - at 4.30 - then awake for the day around 7.30. So perhaps this is actually better than getting him down at 11, when he needs two feeds to get him through then wakes at 6.30 anyway!

Still, he had been colicky and upset for quite a bit of the evening so perhaps he'd just worn himself out...

amberjee - that sounds like a growth spurt to me? if it is, the feeding marathons only last about 2 nights in my experience. the milk is more "growth milk" at night for some reason. growth spurts also mean they sleep more sometimes!!! (if only on you in the day)

now,i dont want to get carried away on my so far success, but i just tried pupd with his morning nap, and i NEVER thought it would work for naps, but it was 10 mins and 3 pick ups, and lots of hands on his belly feeling as calm as i could and HE HAS JUST FALLEN ASLEEP in his cot. hes only been asleep a couple of minutes, so i wont get carried away, but he did it himself in no less time than it usually takes me to rock and jig him.
im beginning to think that maybe, after all, he actually wanted to be put down rather than be jigged about? tracey hogg says that when they are fighting you they want to be put down, and ive always just held onto him, but maybe that was misreading his needs?
thanks for all the encouragement everyone!
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well done again maebee thats great x

youngmum - i think 4 hrs is about right at that age. if you do try and cut down the naps, be careful, it could make your lo worse. i have been obsessively keeping a log of my lo's sleep patterns,and for him, he is DEFINATELY worse to put to bed if hes overtired. as well as being hell throughout the day.
i think most babies wake up around 6, and im not sure theres much you can do about it...except someone recommended blackout curtains to me. im happy enough with that wake up time...for now!..although i wish it were later of course, but its low down on my list of fixing sleep priorities.
hope you have a good nap anyway!

youngmum agree with maebee.NCSS says getting your baby to have proper naps is the key to night time sleeping. It's worked for me.
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well she does have proper naps she has an hour in the morning 2hours at lunch and an hour in the afternoon

The 6 waking is only a recent thing she normally woke up at 7-7.30 thats y i thought she might be having to much sleep in the day as we only just got the naps sorted.

youngmum i think your naps sound perfect and well done that's half the battle. sorry for my poor memory what age is you lo again?

aloha ladies!!!!
maebee, am chuffed to mintballs for ya, sounds like real progress and i'm sure that having a 'routine' to follow makes us feel more productive too long may it continue
youngmum and amber, keep going, you're both doing fab jobs and to echo what tam said, get your heads don with lo's. i still do with dd if i need it and shes almost 7 months
meg - do you feel any better for just waking once? hope lo feels better soon
tam - aloha
lo was a bit later going to bed as had a late nap. bed at 8, woke at 11.30 (i had an evening!!!! quickie feed at ? a clock and good feed at 4.45am. definitely spacing out night feeds, yey! up at 6.15am am hoping your theory works mae

morning tibs. that sounds like a good night in your house. The spaces between feeds will hopefully keep getting bigger and eventualy you'll get 6, 7 or even 8 hours sleep...imagine that!
my night was like this..
1/ds in cot at 7 (goes down awake in cot. stroke head until nearly asleep. Then lie beside cot until asleep. Not got to leaving when still awake yet!)
2/wakes at 2 for milk (7 hours!)(remember even a month ago that would have been every 3 or 4)and goes straight back to sleep
3/wakes at 7 for day

think the older he gets the more sleep he needs plus he knows if he needs me i'll be there.

thanks tam i try to keep that in my head, that there will be a time when things will change cos of maturation and development
shes conked out on my lap now and looks and feels so yummy i could eat her!!!
we're popping in to work again soon, so will see if my friend can work her magic again

btw, well done with your nights, they've improved a lot. how is lo?

tum tee tum, hes been 45 mins asleep in his cot, tum tee tum, tracey hogg is my god, tum tee tum...

oh and btw, in my half arsed fashion, im not doing the full on eat, activity sleep programme, its just putting him down awake and when he seems tired. if this works for my lo, my lord, there is hope for all you tired mothers out there for sure!!

Maebee - woohoo . Well done you! Its hard at first isnt it? But works so well, eventually. I have learnt a lot about our LO through this, like, what I thought was distress was actually her being upset and angry that she was not and could not go to sleep. it is almost like she appreciates me being able to give her space to do it herself now.

I mostly stay with her until she goes to sleep, bu recently, she does not always want me to be there, and in fact her crying gets worse until I leave. And sometimes she stays awake but content after I have done pu/pd with her for a bit. I think you might have reached a corner here. I have not found it easy at all, but the last few weeks/month or since since we have been doing this have sen more good nights than bad.and even when she has woken, felt more confident that she will settle quickly.
Good luck for today!A