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new 'SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK' thread

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tibsy · 05/03/2007 13:55

hi ladies, the other one ran out of space, so if no one else starts a new thread, here it is....

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LEMONADEGIRL · 20/03/2007 11:47

Morning all,

Had quite a good night, ds woke at 3am then again at 5, bit naughty though let him sleep on my chest, as new would have difficulty getting him to settle if put back in cot. I was just so exhausted yesterday, was in bed just after 9, trying to extra sleep before ds woke. Feel better for it today.....

I agree about HV, I have made decision to stop visiting her, she is so patronising. When she visited after ds was born dh nearly fell out with her...... Funny that they are called health visitors, she has only been to my home once- probably good thing though.

LEMONADEGIRL · 20/03/2007 11:48

knew not new, sorry bf whilst typing

MaeBee · 20/03/2007 13:00

kiskidee - i think most of us are doing some co-sleeping, but all differing amounts! my lo likes it a lot more than me, cos he actually gets to sleep when we curl up in bed together! id be a big fat liar if i said i hated snuggling up to his warm,soft body!

sounds like most of us had a bearable night last night. im scoffing some maltesters, and feeling a tad grumpy with dp. tuesday is my "special day" when he does childcare, but it was me that took the boy to the doctors for his vaccinations this morning: i did agree to it so that he could practise for his gig tomorrow, and when i got back at 11.30 he hadnt started making any lunch for the boy because it wasnt "lunch time", but i know the boy needs to start his afternoon nap at 12ish, oh, its so petty, but i had to think what to make him, make it, feed him, not get to finish my lunch, and then my dp is talking all about ' a couple of hours' of looking after him! when i am doing childcare i usually take him out to a babygroup or something to entertain him, my dp looks after him DURING his nap, will take him out in the buggy to make him sleep, and i am grateful, but i SHOULDNT be grateful, cos we are meant to be sharing, and 2 hrs looking walking a buggy about is still not 50/50!
probably feeling a bit cross cos dp is off tomorrow for 24hrs, and i know playing a gig is work, but its also FUN and its also drinking and partying and hanging out without talking about nappies and sleep might be rubbish cos you go to bed drunk and late, but thats still different to going to bed early and sober (ish!) and being woken up a million times by a screaming baby!! and he has to have time to practise, of course, but i havent played the piano or done anything creative since my lo was born, and maybe thats my fault for spending too much time on mumsnet!
feel better for that rant. (and the maltesters no doubt!)

tibsy · 20/03/2007 13:32

maebee - i feel exactly the same when dp goes out i've got a night out coming up, but its just not the same any more cos i know i'll be woken in the night and that i'll need to feed dd so cant have much plus, i know i've got to get up in the a.m too....grrrrr.
maybe we should all meet up at the @@@BAAAAARRR!!!@@@ tomorrow as bampa suggested and we can all pretend we're out!!!

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gingerninja · 20/03/2007 13:46

Tibsy, I've skim read the article as haven't had a lot of time. Sounds interesting. I'll have to look closer.

Kiskedee, we do co-sleep here although if I'm honest I'd probably rather not. I like it most of the time and I certainly get more sleep but DH isn't keen because he's worried about squashing her so we end up in different rooms, me with DD and him on his own! Not sure how conducive to a good marriage that is long term. I also worry that it's OK with me at the moment but I'll tire of it and what kind of message does that send to DD, you were allowed to sleep with me yesterday but not today.

maebee, yes long sleeved vest and baby gro. It was 14 degrees in our room last night tho so it's pretty chilly. I also have a blanket over her sleeping bag.

Kiera, I'm having the same kind of weaning problems. Spoons a no go. She also seems tired by the time I get to feed her if I try and space out the bf and solids.

Last night wasn't bad. 2 wakings, one to feed but she was snuggled very close to me and under my quilt so was probably toasty.

tibsy · 20/03/2007 14:01

oh and kiera, i alternate between really enjoying the weaning process and hating it cos i think i'm arsing it up.
dd didnt put very much weight on last time i weighed her so i've cut out brekkie to encourage her to milk feed (apart from 'whole' foods like toast as i know she wont fill up on that and forgo milk).
she's never hungry in the a.m either so i wonder if i should try to withhold milk at night again, if i can get away with it. trouble is, i just feed her automatically now if she's in bed with us!

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lori21 · 20/03/2007 14:18

I know I have not been around for a while and still have not had time to read through the posts. Where does the time go?

Well I discovered on Saturday why my lo had been sleeping so awfully after getting so much better - I looked down and saw lovely green snot flowing from both nostrils - lovely. So he is back to sleeping a little better although the poor mite last night he was half awake half asleep and coughing from 2.30am until 4.30am. DH - the star - got up to fill a kettle so we could steam the room and I sat holding lo to comfort him. Well hes coughing now and woken himslef up from his nap.

Happy sleeping everyone

tibsy · 20/03/2007 14:42

here

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gingerninja · 20/03/2007 14:44

Tibsy, your link doesn't work for me. WHat are you trying to show?

tibsy · 20/03/2007 14:45

hi lori, sorry lo poorly
please ignore last message everyone, was on another thread and trying to learn how to do links

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MaeBee · 20/03/2007 15:39

tibsy - got all excited at the idea of us all hanging out at a bar, and then remembered my dp has to take the laptop with hiim so im internetless! damn it!

anyway, feeling guilty cos dp and lo came back early....lo had screamed for 45 mins instead of sleeping and my poor dp was beside himself. (makes me a bit nervous about if we do the cc route...) however, they are now both tucked up together in bed, just like the health visitor said we shouldnt, and i am steaming some apple ready for my lo's tea.

to those weaning and sleepless comrades: just to let you know ours is going okay, he definately prefers to do it himself, and he wasnt so sure about the hummus (babystyle) i made him for lunch! i dont really know when or how to build it up, cos hes not yet 6mths, so i guess we are still playing around with experimenting. some of the baby food you can buy has things like chicken, or even beef in it, and says you can give it at 4 mths...that cant be right!?! i cant digest beef easily and im 33!! anyway, we will stay off the dairy for a while, cos of his excema.

oh, and a sleep question:do they drop a nap around 6 mths?? he usually has 3 a day, of differing lengths, but he seems to be up for missing the middle one (the long one that is!)

bampa · 20/03/2007 16:04

tracked swizz down in the tea shop so she'll hopefully be along in a bit to direct you to the bar! x In the meantine i've got to nip to sainsbury. Be back shortly. x

tibsy · 20/03/2007 16:24

maebee - lo's naps vary, but yes, they can change around this time....great, less respite during day too. what dd seems to do is go longer between naps....actually shes been lubbly jubbly lately, apart from nights grrrr!
re. weaning, i introduced yoghurts and have taken them out again cos of dd's eczema. it seems to have improved since stopping them
about @@BAAARRR@@@ another night

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Swizzler · 20/03/2007 16:30

Hi all! The Bar thread is in the Chat section - it's a new thread every evening so can't link until it appears.

Another pretty poor night here, but with a couple of 2 hr stretches. Bought a new sleeping bag, so hoping for miracle effects tonight . Am such a sucker for anything that might improve DS's sleep.

MaeBee · 20/03/2007 18:38

swizzler - new sleeping bag bound to do it! think we all believe in some miracle cure out there, just need to find the one little thing keeping the buggers awake!
i hung up a dark curtain last night, and last night was better, so im convinced it will do the same again.

anyway, dp at fish and chip shop getting us some goods, ive got a bottle of beer, my lo just gone to sleep a few minutes ago....its not all bad is it!?!

Swizzler · 20/03/2007 19:13

Hope they work again tonight

Typing this w DS on knee - he had a long and late afternoon nap so routine gone to b*ggery.

Bar thread here but I'm off to cook some supper

PavlovtheCat · 20/03/2007 21:33

I never seem to get on when people are around . I always leave my posts when there is far too much to read and comment on !!

I hope all is well, will try to read some posts.
Good luck for a good night all xx

PS if anyone knows how to upload pictures to here can you tell me please, I cant remember what site to go to

Swizzler · 21/03/2007 08:16

So the new sleeping bag did not work. That or the late nap threw everything off. Nightmare night: asleep by 8, waking every hr till 11, then NOT sleeoing at all - wd feed, he'd drop off, back into cot and - ping - awake and yelling . By 2:30, I was muttering about bl*dy babies into the pillow and DH got up, muttering about bl*dy experiments, he tried swaddling DS (no luck) then into bed with us and dozed for a few hours, only to wake at 6:30 as normal, ready to play .

MaeBee · 21/03/2007 08:17

good morning. i hope. shit morning for me, another godawful night where i lay awake thinking where would i go if i left my family? have stupid hospital fantasies where i have an accident and have to spend some nights in hospital.....drip in arm maybe, but just so i dont have to look after the baby for a few nights! have images of abandoning my lo at the steps of an orphanage....think i might be a bit out of date on that one though.
my dp off this morning, with this computer, so will check in again some time on thursday. we are doing lo in own room, and pupd on thursday, so will see how that goes.
love to you all.xx

Swizzler · 21/03/2007 08:22

Maebee: it's always at about 3 in the morning when I sit there wondering if I'll ever get to sleep a full night again - draining, isn't it? Take care and best o luck for Thursday

bampa · 21/03/2007 08:28

maebee and swizz for bad nights. Mine was mixed but still not nearly as bad as yours (keep remembering he's over 1 though and i really think it makes a difference).
Feeling alot better this morning but still not 100%. Got friend coming to stay tonight who's dd(10mths)sleeps through infact she once told me they have to set an alarm to wake them up for work and to get her up! Mind you she also fully admits she did cc and basically is not prepared to put herself out for dd. () so we're at far ends of the spectrum from each other but as long as we avoid talkng about babies she's a bloody good laugh!
May have a rather sore head tomorrow though and not from the virtual bar!
I see pavlov you visited the bar last night. Good girl.
Don't think i'll be able to make it tonight as i'll be in a REAL bar (wahoo!) x

tibsy · 21/03/2007 09:04

morning all!!
hi pav!!
swizzler and maebee for crappola nights. maebee, hang on in there til thurs sister! we'll be thinking of you and will definitely make a date for the @@@BAAARRRR@@@ then, hey bampa?
bampa - i didnt make it last night, the boys had gone to dps mum in lieu of mothers day so i was on sole dd watch!!!! actually, she wasnt too bad, dd that is.
6.45pm bed
8.45 woke (held her hand)
9.45 woke (")
10.45 woke (into bed with me)
12 fed
3.45 BIG feed
6am up for the day
........that looked SO much better in my head
am trying to cut down amount of milk she has at night, gently. so in terms of that, last night WAS good
hope everyone else ok?

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bampa · 21/03/2007 09:05

hey tibs. come and join us in the tea shop (chat section)same people who run the bar!

tibsy · 21/03/2007 09:06

oh and bampa, glad you're feeling better let us know how your night out goes. have to live viscariously (sp?) thru others atm til have real night out!!

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tibsy · 21/03/2007 09:09

bamp, just checking other stuff before dd wakes, but i'll try to find it if i can

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