'Sleep is for the Weak' for anyone with August/Sep 06 DC's

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GM, Cruise and anyone else with LO's born around August/September 06' - this is a support thread for when you have no clue as to why your LO is doing the exact opposite to what they were doing last week and when you are thinking WTF????
Post on here and we shall all compare notes and comfort each other!!

Cruise - . I'm certain things will improve. Forgot to say in my lenghty post yesterday that I try and give dd protein in her evening meal. Think I read somwhere that it can improve sleep. Not sure if it does help as she can be v fussy eating but its worth a shot if your at that stage yet.

By the way dd is 28 weeks tomorrow. I have decided in the last 3 weeks that she can now stay. There were times she was pushing it and it was touch and go if I called the cabbage patch to arrange a swap....I know how you feel

thank u all .
tibsy - no,i don't co -sleep. I dn't want to 4 a couple of reasons. 1. dh does like a few wines and is a noisy sleeper at best. 2. i don't sleepp well with a baby - too worried about suffocation etc! btw, i'm a libra too ! oct 12th...

i know that things will improve but the tiredness thing is a killer. i was walking round croydon shopping ctr today and i struggled not to cry. felt awful. i am begging for some sleep.
ginger - me and ds never been apart either. dont want to be apart really.just long for some sleep!!!!!!!

i'm libran too...sept 30th! cruismaum kep meaning to ask you if ds has a dummy?

cruise - same day as my gorgeous baby brother (well he was 30 last year!) my birthday is the 24th september.

if its any consolation, we've had the day from hell here too. wish i'd have gone out but a friend came round with her rather destructive lo (another story)

anyway, am longing for dd to go to bed in one way, although i love her dearly and she's such a poppet. however, am wondering what tonight will bring?

its bloody hard this motherhood malarkey aint it?

H tibsy. Going out tonight (no nothing very exciting, just for dinner with dh, ds and other friends and their lo's)so hope you have a good night, that goes for everyone, and I'll check in in the morning to good news i hope.

OMG, how many postings!!!

Will post again later when I had a chance to read them all, however, thought I would say hi as not been on for a few days. Been busy bunnies.

However, quick news flash. Put our LO into her own room night before last, after a friend and me went mad cleaning the nursery / store room of debris. It now looks pretty with coloured star flowers, sparkly butterflies hanging from the ceiling, Panang chair for me to feed next to the cot (hallway a state, again - ever find that once you get one room clean, another room is a tip, like those games wher you move squares from one box to another! Its called life apparantly, according to my friend!) anyway enough deviation.

First night, slept well until 11:00pm, woke up, had two lots of BF, would not settle. Travel cot in our room as suggested by DP for 'emergencies', by 12:30am she is with us fast asleep in travel cot.

Second night. Went to bed at 7pm, after a gigantic dinner of two butternut suqash ice cubes (large ones) with baby milk and baby rice, scrambled egg, ate loads of it, AND half opt of Rachel's yoghurt for babies (ie sweetened with juice, plus 3oz bottle and bf before dinner, out like a light, no BF. Did not get to see dada after work. He was rather upset. Woke up at 8:30pm for BF as fell asleep before it was given, had two lots, went back to sleep, slept until 4:30am. She did wake up at midnight, but by the time I checked in on her she was asleep as if she had not even woken up (about 2 mins!), she woke up again at 3:15am went back to sleep again, on her own (got baby monitor right by our heads!). She then woke at 6am, came to bed with us had a feed, woke us up by jumping on our heads, then had a lttle more BF at 7:30am, back to sleep for another hour. I am amazed, feel it may just be a growth spurt rather than the norm..., but YEY for now.

bad news flash tho - she fell off sofa earlier, straight on her head wiggled right out of my arms. I was devastated, she yelled her head off tears and all for a min then wanted to go back to playing, did not let her. Been checked all ok, however, had a nap and woken up crabby as, just wants to feed, dont know if its still growth spurt or she has a headache. will give her some calpol, looks like last night will not be repeated tonight

pavlovthecat - Sorry to hear about the sofa dive. DD did this last week, just caught her as her hair touched the floor so luckily not hurt but she screamed like never before and was clingy for the rest of the day. Scared me too

Cruisemum - So sorry you are having such a rough time, life has only improved here since I did CC as I had got to the point where I burst into tears in Tescos . DP insisted we had to do something and I am glad now we did and it was not as bad as I thought it would be. I know this is not a route you want to go down from reading your posts but perhaps when your lo is older it may be an option? Are you doing PU/PD or NCSS? I know people both of these have worked for, unfortunately they didn't work for us In the meantime have you got a friendly neighbour or relative nearby who can sit in your lounge with lo while you catch some sleep? I did this for a friend from Postnatal last week and she felt so much better. My lo loved playing with the different toys for a couple of hours and I got to eat all her choccy biscuits

bampa - ds won't take a dummy. Believe me I have tried every dummy on the market!!! Little monkey doesn't know what to do with the thing. Everything but flipping suck!

hi pavlov, sorry to hear about sofa dive dd slipped out my hands in the bath tonight and tapped her head on the side. i was mortified and scooped her up for a cuddle getting soaked in the process. she didnt even cry tho so she was fine. dp has just popped out to a mates so made him go up and check that she was breathing properly. they are a worry yey for last night, more please!

hi bampa, hope you have a fab night out and another good sleep after!! will be sending positive vibes your way...

cruise, ginger and kiera, hope you're feeling a bit better now and that you have good nights.
cruise, no wonder you're so chuffing tired, if i wasnt co sleeping, i'd be a basket case, understand why you're not tho. my dd refuses dummy as well, no imitation nipples for her in any shape or form!

and to all you other lovely sleepless ladies out there, i wish you good nights and restful sleep

Hi - posted early on on this thread, just to say cruise that you are not the only one! DD still waking every hour or two, and has added to her repertoire deciding that its playtime at about 2 or 3 and staying up for and hour or so then, am going mental, completely lost the plot last night, couldn't deal with it at all! Was getting somewhere with no cry sleep solution ideas but I think she's going to have to cry it out for all our sakes..

cruise...was very lucky our ds took dummy on first night home from hospital but i'm glad now. It's the only thing that'll settle him at night and now he's older if he wakes up (and i'm not too quick to intervene) i've seen him search for it in the dark and put it back in. Glow in the dark dummies are the way forward!
All joking aside maybe if your heart can take it you might want to go down the cc route. It was never for me but it seems to work for some people and if it meant you were happier due to some sleep then maybe it's an option. Have seen from another thread (that you posted on briefly) that they all found it successful. NCSS looks like a good book but i've seen from some posts it doesn't deliver results very quickly but i might get that too to have aread. as you know my ds has never slept through the night but then i stopped bf at 8 mth (due to blocked milk duct) so heating ff is not half as involved and so my night's are tough but not as hard as some of you have it. Anyway i'm rambling on...had most of a bottle of white in restaurant....eases the pain
tibsy, pavlov, gingerninja, ruth, keira, genlay, maebee, redbeki, myrtle1 and boobylicious (god there's alot of us)hope you have a good night and we all have some sleep

Last night was pantsarama, I slept with a donkey. No not DH (!)but a kicking baby. I think she was trying to poo all night but didn't manage it. Anyway her sore tummy / wind, whatever it was kept us up A LOT. At 2 she came into bed with us, then I lost track. I'm meeting friends for the first time today and wanted to look my best, instead I'm sporting some unfashionable eye bags. Boo.

PS, my housed is a flippin tip and it's driving me bonkers!! Small deviation but an important one

decided last night that ds wld sleep better in pyjamas not sleepsuit cos thenhe would have bare feet.....and he slept all night through!
only jesting. h e woke every 2.5 hrs as per bloody usual. still,my toothache less sore, and manahed risotto not just soup so bright side of life and all that.
are all these sleepless babies high need babies? mine is the fussiest EVER! some days every waking minute is grizzling and whining and complaining. he cries if put down and squirms and throws himself about when hes on me. and he requires attention constantly, seems to get bored so easily! i used to think a babys personality was becazuse of parenting but now im hoping not!
think maybe theres some teething going on, and my boy is, as usual, going to be a right drama queen about it!
somehow im feeling cheerful anyway, i think its cos i had such a hot bath its gone to my head, and im going to have a really nice half bottle of red wine tonight....i can fit that between my teeth!
love to all of you,xx

ginger i slept with a donkey too..came into our bed at 2.30 and def seemed to have a sore tummy. Kicked and changed position every few seconds. I ended up down at the bottom of the bed while ds took over my pillow tucked in behind Dh. Only good thing is he then slept until 8.15!
maebee my ds has never liked being too warm so i put him in footless pj's from early on. I stupidly thought it might make him sleep longer but of course not!
don't feel too bad today. Dh is going away for the weekend to see some friends so me and ds are home alone. MIL popping in in 5 to say hello and see her darling gs. We get on well but i can't be arsed today to be honest. x

morning ladies!!

queen of the north how old is your lo?

ginger, i'm sure you look gorgeous, enjoy your day with your pals. sorry you had a crap night dont worry about the house, youre going out anyway wink]

bampa, glad you had a good night out, tee hee re. easing the pain!!! am off out tonight for a meal with my mum, but cant go overboard as 1)bfing 2) will be awake half the night with dd and 3)am working tomorrow! hope your weekend goes ok without dh.

maebee - glad your toothache feeling bit better, hope you enjoyed your vino how old is your lo again. sorry re. the whingy, clingy thing, my dd used to do it a LOT. has improved drastically, apart from yesterday, when her cheeks flamed red in afternoon, so think it was teething. think maybe its a developmental thing and also that theyre very attached to us cos we're SO great!!

our night was quite wakeful, just as much me as dd, hope i'm not developing insomnia. that WILL put the tin hat on it!
anyway, bed at 6.30, woke at 8.15, 9p, shushed to sleep. came in to bed at 11pm for a feed, fed again at 1.30 and i lost count after that! shes just conked out on my lap, so will let her have a snooze then we're both off to work....

catch you all later xx

p.s just seen a post on unanswered threads about a cd thats helped a mnetters lo to sleep a bit better. sleepsounds.com is the website. anyone fancy trialling it? might have a look myself, although means you've got to play the blardy thing all night.....

actually it was called soundsforsilence.com
just ignore me, lack of zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Morning all. You will be glad to know I have re-joined the sleep deprevation club - little monkey was up every 2 hours! Then the Sun woke her early! She is currently pretending to have a nap! GRRRRR!
Any one elses DC started to drop down the centiles? DD starts weaning tomorrow (just short of 26 weeks) but I got her wieghed and she has really slowed down on her wieght gain so am now feeling mean for having BF her to 6 months even though I have been trying to do it to help with allergies. She has gone from 75th to nearly 25th in a few weeks . Perhaps my Sister was right to tease me and say I was starving her!
Yesterday she started chewing on nothing, I think it was a new trick she suddenly relised she could do and carried on doing it all day!!! I can just imagine her tomorrow when we give her solids for the first time - "at last she took the hint!"

Being a Mummy is HARD! I have renewed respect for my Mum! Must go and find something else to worry about/make myself feel guilty about

ruth .

having insane time here trying to get lo to nap sorry no time to read posts have to go and get ds1 in a sec. so angry i could explode but what can I do can't harm self baby or possessions, what do i do with all this anger and frustration? am afraid will come out in impatience with ds1 and cat as usual followed by mega-guilt. why can't i get my baby to sleep have tried everything it is 5 months now and he is no better. would be a different story if he was happy and didn't need sleep but he's tired rubbing eyes crying crying crying and NOTHING i can do can comfort him or get him to sleep. what a crap mother do i feel. doubly bad mother for being crap mother to ds1 also. also crap wife as have just sworn at dh on mobile. also crap pet-owner as have just swung for cat. this is not me i am nice gentle kind person - or was bc. will catch up with you later when have time/calmer...

oh kiera poor you . we have all felt that way. i did really recently. you are human that's all. gotta go an sch run. will post later if time. dh's bday today.

oh! lo rolled today! should i flip him over if he does it in bed?

kiera - i am happy to speak to you if you want to chat. i could email you my phone no.

ruth and kiera and you are NOT crap mums. that is a load of rubbish. if you were crap mums, you wouldnt be on here as you wouldnt give a toss basically.

ruth, my lo dropped from 50th centile to 25th, but she was healthy, active, alert and was having plenty of wet nappies. i felt a lot of pressure from others, and i started her on solids early. tbh, i wish i hadnt, shes still on 25th centile and i've now realised this is her weight, shes just petite. both her dad and i are the same. they do reach a plateau where weight gain slows off at least now your lo will be ready for finger foods as well as the puree stuff!

kiera oh honey, i am so sorry you feel like that, it must be hell. can you go and beat the s**t out of a pillow or something? can dh have the lo's for you tomorrow for an hour or two so you can get some 'me time' how about a massage or if you can get hold of some oils to put in your bath, grapefruit, geranium and mandarin is a nice blend and will pick you up a treat. just 2 drops each of mandarin and grapefruit, 1 of geranium (its quite pungent) mixed in a tbsp of milk and pour into your bath. have you thought about five flower bach remedy, a sort of a 'rescue remedy' for when you need picking up.
we're all here for you sweetie xxxx

cruise, i hope your feeling brighter