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No Cry Sleep Solution - slowly but surely....

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chIRIStmasfairybigpants · 15/12/2006 12:06

Shiny new thread (saw your post Bikebug

Not been on for a while as we've been a house full of colds and having new heating installed (the warmth is bliss) so DS has been sleeping in with me again as he couldn't breathe
Progress has still been made though as I've only been bringing him in from about 11ish(because I'm lazy)and he's been waking coughing during the evening but managing to resettle himself quite a lot.

I really think we're getting there (though it maybe his age too )

How's everyone else doing?

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danceswithbaby · 05/03/2007 15:46

Hi all, I'm so glad to see this thread on the move again

Poor you Kitty It's so frustrataing when things seem to be improving, then they go and get ill again. I hear the tell-tale snuffling that means the snot is building up and my heart just plummets.

My babe is on the mend and her newly improved sleep habits seem to be returning. Either that, or it's down to the bump the size and colour of a robin's egg, which she has on her forehead from head-butting the door! She's only chucked in a four hour stint but hey, two months ago I'd have been thrilled to bits.

Hi there Kjay. Sorry to hear things are not going according to plan. Please don't leave it too long before admitting defeat with the cc. It just doesn't work on some babies. My own mother persisted with it so long that I didn't speak at all until I was 5 (not to mention the vocal chord damagage, rupture caused by such violent screaming)

Cruisemum, I'm forty-twoooo, so older than youuuu (I swear geriatric mum's have prettier babies

cruisemum1 · 05/03/2007 16:01

dwb - you are so right!

cruisemum1 · 05/03/2007 18:03

dwb - but how old is your lo?

danceswithbaby · 05/03/2007 19:32

Cruisemum, she's one-and-a-bit. Remind me how old yours is?

cruisemum1 · 05/03/2007 20:51

6 months tomorrow¬

danceswithbaby · 05/03/2007 22:16

Cruisemum, I was forty-one when dd was six months old Is this your first baby too?

I put dd down at 7.30 and I haven't been up to her yet! (hopeful, fingers crossed emoticon). I daren't go to bed in case I wake her.

sashasmama · 06/03/2007 01:27

hi
quick one to say that sleep is still as umpredictable as the lottery but there is mini mini improvements... good to see this thread going well.

dancewithbay, wow, how bad was the vocal chord damage? that's scary cos i can just see mine going that way if i did cc cos she is a right screamer!

take care everyone!

kjaysmum · 06/03/2007 07:04

I guess it's working he put himself to bed after one hour of returning and slept through till 3 but was up till 5 when he put himself to bed a seconcd time.
Just put Ds to bed with no tears and he stayed there, which is brilliant.
If this is it and we're back on track I am going to be over the moon. I must confess I was and am finding CC seriously distressing, he has a voice like sand paper, which worried me especialy after reading your post Dances and he has been particularly clingy since starting CC which I am not happy about as he's always been a nicely independent little soul. We had decided to only try it for one week and then go back to more subtle techniques.
By the way DS went through this before at 15 months but not waking as often so maybe age is a factor as I am hearing of quite a few toddlers of this age going through a repeat of night waking.
Oh and I also am 41 and swear I had less grey hairs a week ago!!

cruisemum1 · 06/03/2007 07:59

dwb - i have a dd of just 9.

danceswithbaby · 06/03/2007 08:49

Hi there,
Quite a good night for us, only one waking until 3.30, then at 5 and 6 before getting up at 7! I really think she's starting to get the idea of this night-time thing

Sasha & Kjay, the lasting damage of the vocal chords isn't so bad that you'd notice if you didn't know, but I could never have been a singer! I vaguely remember seeing all these child psychologists who were trying to work out if my refusal to talk was physical or psychological damage. I'd also ruptured my diaphragm by prolonged, intense screaming which wasn't picked up until 5. There have been lasting emotional issues though, that have now been linked to CC. But guys, this was VERY extreme cry it out and I must have been a very high need child, who wouldn't quit. My older sister tells me that the police were called on serveral occations, because the neighbours couldn't stand it any longer. I doubt you'll go to such extremes Kjay.

I do think that cc in any form is wrong, but since having my own child, I can understand why some people choose that route. If it works for you, I'm sure you'll both be fine Kjay.

cruisemum1 · 06/03/2007 08:59

ds seems to still wake frequently but sometimes pulls himself off boob and settles in my arms. I guess this is progress . Twice last night (he woke 3 times ) he opened his eyes, watched me leave his room and WENT TO SLEEP!!!!. of course that means diddly squit really as tonight could be back to square one but hey! it keeps me happy!
dwb - crikey. you must hve been very determined as a baby!!!

danceswithbaby · 06/03/2007 12:22

Hey Cruisemum, that sounds suspiciously like progress to me

This parenting stuff wasn't quite such a shock for you then, if you have a 9yr old. I feel like I have moved to another planet! DH & I always said we didn't want children, then after 19 years of brilliant marriage we changed our minds. I'm glad we did. Even with the lack of sleep, I wouldn't have missed this for the world

Yes, I must've been a very determined baby, but not as determined as my mother apparently!

cruisemum1 · 06/03/2007 15:47

dwb - believe me, I feel like a novice! dd was a model baby (wish I had realised it at the time). She slept through by 11 weeks, took a dummy, took to a bottle, weaned with no ill effects blah blah blah. ds is a mystery to me. Love him sooooo much though. Like you said, worth every sleep deprived second

cruisemum1 · 06/03/2007 15:47

dwb - believe me, I feel like a novice! dd was a model baby (wish I had realised it at the time). She slept through by 11 weeks, took a dummy, took to a bottle, weaned with no ill effects blah blah blah. ds is a mystery to me. Love him sooooo much though. Like you said, worth every sleep deprived second

Difers · 06/03/2007 20:22

Hi There,

DWB - Wales is great - much less stressful than London indeed. Still haven't got curtains up which affects DS sleep quite alot - I notice that he sleeps less with a full moon! AAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWHHHHH!
I am sorry about your experience of CC, it's good to hear from someone who has actually experienced it though.

Agree with Sashasmama that body adjusts to lack of sleep. I too look much older than previously despite having developed acne. Do you think acne is from lack of sleep???

danceswithbaby · 06/03/2007 20:50

Are you about 30? (You're not a teenager, are you?? ) I developed acne at about 30 after hardly ever having had a spot before. I was devestated. It's quite common apparently. Some mild anti-biotics and a long fringe took care of most of it. It's another one of those hormone things. The highlight for me, was when I got four heads on the same spot

sashasmama · 07/03/2007 01:41

difers, i definitely used to get acne everytime i had a few late nights in a row!

but now.... i have had sooooo many sleepless nights the acne kinda gave up !!

dances, your experience sounds horrific.... thank you for telling us. and yes i too feel like i am certainly on a different planet from my single girlfriends now. our house used to be all designery beige and gray, very zen living space, now it is taken over by all manner of primary coloured plastic tat! still i love the lil bug to bits, and even though i have had the difficult baby compared to just about everyone i know, it's been great.

sashasmama · 07/03/2007 01:58

oh and i must tell you the story of my husband's aunt.

She is nearly 90, and she lives with her son who has down's syndrome, who is now 60+, but with a mental age of about 6 or 7. And she tells me he still wakes up a few times a night calling for her, and that she has never had a good night's sleep since he was born.

i was like, OH. MY. GOD. this woman is honestly due for sainthood.

danceswithbaby · 07/03/2007 11:02

How on earth has she managed to make it to 90, with 60-odd years of broken nights?? I guess it's good news for those of us who are worried about the effects of long term sleep deprivation.

Thanks for the story Sashamama, kind of puts things into perspective a bit and makes me feel lucky, even if dd did wake up on the hour, every hour all bloody night.

Did I say she was getting the hang of this night-time thing? Looks like I spoke too soon

sashasmama · 12/03/2007 02:39

dwb
i knw how you feel... she does really well then regresses... makes me think she'll never learn to sleep though! she turned one last friday... so am hoping for the best!

danceswithbaby · 12/03/2007 21:34

Happy birthday to your babe, Sashamama

I found that things started to improve around 11 months. Then they began to seriously fall apart again when her pre-molars started to come through. She's got three out of four now, so I'm hoping for a big improvement when they are all through

There always seems to be something to keep her waking, colds, teeth, developmental stuff like walking etc. I guess it's all go both physically and mentally for them at this age. I still say that NCSS is the best way and we will reap the rewards

It's DEFINITELY going to get better

I think the thing is not to let the lack of sleep interfere with our enjoyment of this time in their lives. It's never going to come again.

sashasmama · 13/03/2007 03:02

i think you are right that i will miss this time. already she doesn't want to be rocked or cuddled to sleep, she just kicks and twists like crazy.

last night, perhaps because she sensed how tense and p**d off i was she started a massive raging tantrum and screamed and kicked so much in her cot that i felt i really needed to pick her up and calm her. she didn't want to be held and kicked and screamed and writhed in my arms for almost 10 minutes before she managed to calm down and fall asleep sobbing on my chest. i sat there in the darkness with her asleep on me for ages after that, just savouring every moment, sniffing her hair and stroking her back. she is no longer a baby who feels that I am a part of her. this is the beginning of independence, and i will miss the baby.

danceswithbaby · 13/03/2007 12:43

12 'til 5am last night

sashasmama · 14/03/2007 01:35

yay! then what happened after 5? if mine wakes up at 5 she thinks it's time to get up and i have a real hard time convincing her to go back to sleep...

danceswithbaby · 14/03/2007 20:12

After 5 she had a 10min b/f then slept until 6.30 . I'd have prefered it to be 7.30 but you can't have everything all at once!

What time does your lo go to bed? What are her naps like now?

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