Misery Loves Company...nope. Still not sleeping.

[ElphabaTheGreen]

Long-term sleep deprivation getting you down?

Join us here for and plenty of sympathy.

Ride the mo-fo out or something must be done - the choice is yours.

And remember the First Rule of Sleep Club - do not mention that things are going well or you will PAY.

I missed your move to your new thread so this is what I typed before I found it.... be back later as I really must go to sleep now.

Hello everyone

elph sorry to hear about DS2's exorcist impressions. Never going to fill you with glee.

I am just out of energy with bloody funking winter lurgies bur after a week of cosleeping with the terrible twin he's back in his own bed sleeping through. His nap is driving me insane though. He needs it. Literally can't get though without it, is dropping asleep at 4:30pm otherwise. Bit refuses to go to sleep. I am slinging him to sleep..A much heavier prospect as he's 3 in April. can't get him off my back and into bed without waking him either.

no other words of wisdom.and it's so late I must go to bed.

May the sleep fairy visit you all soon (and no, never 12 hours from that one here either though dd and dt2 do occasionally)

Hello folks. Still here? stupid question Knackered. Toddler running,yes, running for 5 hours today and not tired. Baby has bastard teeth coming out and starting to get mobile.

Take care x

Hi ladies, I'm still lurking! Ann has worked miracles on my DS, 18mo. His sleep is far from perfect, but it's so, so, so much better than it was pre-Ann. She is my heroine! :-)

Puss that's good to hear, we start with Ann soon for ds 13mo

Bald and Mistletoe sounds tough, I hope things improve for you both

Dreaming ds has a rotten cold, so snotty and doesn't help the sleeping

4 wakes here the last few nights. Sat and Sun he was up for the day around 5:10 but luckily slept till 6:10 today after keeping me up for over an hour at 3:40

I'm SO sorry I haven't replied to your PM from about a million years ago I'm not being a bitch, honestly. It just falls out of my sieve-like memory on the rare occasion when I have two hands free to use a keyboard.

Starting with Ann a week today. Thank fuck. And DH has only gone and broken DS1 He's been taking him into bed every night. So last night he randomly decided to try and make him stay in his bed and was all shocked when he kicked off massively. Then took him into bed. So once DS2 is sorted I'm going to have to turn my attentions back to DS1's sleep, thanks to that fucking man-shape I live with. I was so hoping to get some jeffing SLEEP before I go back to work!

Hello all. Hear here. Just fancied a bit of a name change.

Well, trying not to break the first time of no-sleep club, but dd seems to be doing pretty well with the nap drop this last week. No nap had resulted in much improved bedtimes and sleep, resulting in her being so much better behaved during the day. She is also sleeping till 6:30/7am. It has been over 3 years, since I got to sleep past 6am (thanks to pregnancy related insomnia). I feel all strange.. Sort of like a real, proper human being

now don't get too excited. She still comes through to our bed every night and spent a good half hour prodding me repeatedly in the back last night. But hey, we don't want to get complacent do we?!

Anyway, all this sleep seems to have made me inexplicably broody all of a sudden. I am putting it down to some strange post bereavement emotional craziness, but if you could ask just keep on reminding me how the 2nd children are just as incapable of sleep as first that would be great.

Ah sleep will do that to you Hear. I got upduffed with DD2 during a brief spell of sleep from DD1.

Elph, surely 'if you break it, you better fix it' also applies to sleep, no? DH's turn to sleep on DS1's floor?

Dreaming, colds are a bastard and Bald so are teeth. As if our babies need any more excuses to not sleep...

Still mixed here, DD1 seems to be on the mend but DD2 is still full of snot and struggling to get to sleep. Some nights haven't been too bad thanks to lots of nurofen but others have been pretty crap. Saturday night I think I made it into my own bed at about 3am - only to be back up an hour later. OH naturally slept through everything and had the temerity to remark that everyone slept well last night

I hope you gave him a mighty glare for that dreaming.

If anyone needed proof that our DC read this thread, dd woke up at 5am this morning! So much for my lie ins

I like the name change lion didn't realise we could change, starting to think of my new one now...

If you want to be put off having a second, not only can their sleep be worse it can be brilliant for 3 months then go to hell so you get deluded into thinking that this time you've somehow done it 'right' and got a sleeper then they deteriorate to the point where you'd pay a thousand pounds to have a baby that woke every 2 hours, fed and went back to sleep . All that said when they wake at silly o clock in the morning and give you a chubby faced baby smile you think it's all worth it , despite waking every hour and taking an hour to settle each time .

Name change?! Dunno if I can call you Lion It may need to be Hippy Formerly Known as Hear until I get used.

Nothing like a bit of kip to get you broody. It makes you repress the memories of why you only wanted one to begin with. It's a biological imperative to ensure continuation of the species.

I'd love to leave DH to sort DS1 out, but we're starting with Ann on Monday so nights may be a bit disturbed for a while and if they're both kicking off in adjoining bedrooms we've got no hope. I just don't know. He was up at 5:30 this morning, shrieking his head off wanting me to take him into bed. I compromised by getting into bed with him, while DH lay down with DS2 to keep him asleep, so I've had that magical combination of multiple wakes AND an early start. I feel AMAZING! And DS2 has a hacking cough, so that, combined with a bit of overfeeding at midnight resulted in a puke river in the dark hours.

Sorry, Hear, what was that about wanting another one?

I think you should call yourself LionsDon'tWeaveLentils hear until.we're used to it so we don't get confused. I'm easily confused. I should change my name as I sometimes get a full nights sleep. Don't get too jealous though, up for over an hour with dt2 night before last and dd and him last night so it's not all plain sailing (please note: Ann-cloned dt the Terrible slept through, both nights, though did get up at 5:30 2 nights ago)

It's true about the sleep though. I have currently upped my campaign for baby #4 now I get some sleep

4?!?

Be careful what you wish for Dreaming. Second set of refluxy twins...?

Despite all the grief and genuine concern for the long term damage the lack of sleep has done to my memory, I would love a third. But that would require a lottery win, and since I don't play in the lottery (or have any flagging wealthy relatives) it ain't going to happen. Sigh. I've been psychologically dealing with it by getting rid of baby clothes as soon as they've been grown out of after burying my face in them for one last sniff

I, too, vote for LionsDontWeaveLentils.

OK, OK! I bow to online peer pressure and change my name

Im so glad ive found this thread my son has reflux ive counted him waking up to 5 times in one hour, im so sick of reading threads of people complaining about doing 2 dream feeds with a 3 month old. I haven't slept in 6 months and have been going insane thinking it was just me with a baby whose sleep is this bad.

Pull up a summerdreams. Dreaming is our resident reflux expert. Twins with reflux. Yep. Two of 'em at once.

Here's a thread that will make you cry.

Fuck em. Fuck em all.

That is a thread Elba...
13 hours!!! And 2-4 hour naps!!! WTAF?
How can this be??

Reflux twins. Jeez, how did you survive dreaming?

Sleep training has reached a new low. Someone tell me it gets better at some point? Please!!
If only I hadn't become complacent around days 3/4 I might not have jinxed it!

Oh, imagine being well rested and having the chance to accomplish things! Is it wrong of me to hope their babies read that thread??

time poor you, what does the consultant say? Is this beyond what she expected?

Welcome summer, how old is your DS? Do they grow out of reflux in the end? Sorry, I don't know much about it.

Horrific early start of 4:40 this morning after he did a good 6 hour stretch. Teeth definitely bothering him but can't see any new ones yet.

Wishing everyone a good night.

Oh time No, it's not because you got 'complacent'. Pure behavioural strategies like gradual withdrawal just sometimes don't work - as I discovered.

Andrea Grace has a pretty good reputation, though, so keep talking with her and go with her suggestions.

I hate them all from that thread elph . "Oh, I'm so worried mine sleep so much." Fuck. Right. Off.

I knew I shouldn't read that thread elph but did that stop me? Hell no! Screw the lot of them. They have clearly stolen all my sleep and I want it back