Misery Loves Company...nope. Still not sleeping.

[ElphabaTheGreen]

Long-term sleep deprivation getting you down?

Join us here for and plenty of sympathy.

Ride the mo-fo out or something must be done - the choice is yours.

And remember the First Rule of Sleep Club - do not mention that things are going well or you will PAY.

chocolate I know!! Flipping pipes. They actually don't seem to bother DS at all, but I just bloody knew it would be the one time he got upset by them when he'd settled at a reasonable time!!
We're trying to wean here too, but having been fairly adventurous with eating while we were away on hols, he's now got a cold/tummy bug gross thing and has knocked him right off solids. Point-blank refusing them again, annoyingly... So - with all that going on, have stopped counting wake ups again. Was most p*ssed off at 4am this morning to find the fire (and therefore tge radiators) had gone out and dp hadn't thought to bring in any coal before coming to bed... Finished bf, put baby down (crying) went out in rain in pjs to get coal and relit fire, went in to baby (still crying) and THEN dp surfaced to ask if I wanted a hand. mutter mutter grump. suffice to say, not much sleep last night again...
Where is Ann based? And when is her book out??

Rural that's a grim start to the day. Sounds like your dp needs a kick up the backside!

Ann works via Skype/phone/email so it doesn't matter where you are based. Don't know when the book is out unfortunately.

Grim start indeed! Not really dp's fault - he's also got a stinking cold and up early for work. Was just v v tired and cranky...

I'm off to have a look at the link posted to Ann's site - am sure I saw it here a while back...

Hope everyone's days are going okay!

Here it is Ann

Ta!

She hasn't finished the book so I'm guessing ages away.

I'm sure it's OK to give this reassurance to scotty - no hardcore night-weaning required, scotty! Boobs are safe!

Yes she gave me the same reassurance when we had our initial chat though I don't know about you but I'm definitely looking to cut down! Someone in my street is playing music ridiculously loudly, if it eats into what precious little sleep DD gets I'm going to go all mama bear (or in reality just sit in the house and bitch about it!).

Ooooh, v excited to hear how everyone gets on tonight

DD a lot better today although think she has a tooth coming so think we are back to square one on the night weaning attempt. She has also (finally) managed to master the sign for milk and is using it constantly. At least having a little fist waved in front of me at 3am clarified why she was up crying!

How sweet Raspberry , I have been doing half hearted signing with ds but he hasn't picked anything up yet.

Scotty that would drive me nuts too! Hopefully they'll turn it down soon.

We are surrounded by fuckwits who think backyard fireworks, any time of year, are just fine My FB status may even have dropped a c-bomb on DS1's first Chrismas night in response. That'll learn 'em not to do it, eh?

DS2 asleep in his cot. For now...

So far so good Elph, how long did it take before you saw results with ds1?

Well, he was considerably older (21 months), and I was new to Ann's methods then. She tacked on an extra week with him, so he was a very much reformed character after seven weeks and continued to improve for several weeks after that. I think he had his first STTN without me in his room around week three or four of Ann's programme. He hasn't had completely unbroken nights ever since (as this thread can attest) - he's obviously just not a born sleeper (duh) but he is far, far more manageable.

scotty hope the music settled. Got a Ewan sheep being delivered today to see if that helps her settle and not scream everytime you think she's settled and then dare to move to leave the room - always finding a creaky floorboard! Possibly a bit late to introduce but can do for next baby if it's not used now.

Thankfully the music stopped. Just tried to feed DD to sleep, now she won't even do that, she's exhausted and won't nap, sick of this .

rural - I just read the thread back and realised you were referring to actual bagpipes and not plumbing pipes as I had thought! Good on your baby for sleeping through that. I had ear protectors ready for my DD at a funeral when there were bagpipes, but she really quite enjoyed them!

Well hello there everyone. I'm new to this thread, but definitely NOT new to sleep deprivation. My DS1 (second one on the way) is 13 months now, and though he seemed to be going the right way at some point, he's back to waking xx number of times throughout the night. He's also had this horrible cough since before CHristmas, which obviously makes it worse as he wakes himself.

He's back in our bad most nights from about midnight now. Sometimes we just go to sleep together, because it's the only way he will go down.

I know some of it has to do with the coughing, but he's never been a good sleeper. So I'm desperate to try something to help all of us get through these nights! It's become unbearable since I went back to work full time, and am nauseous with morning sickness all the time. We also don't have any family in the country, so never get a break.

Sorry, moan over.

So what's this Ann method??

Hi lalunya! We resorted to taking DS into bed last night too. After 3 hours lying with him on his floor and trying to soothe him, I gave up, I'm afraid, and we had a family sleep for a couple of hours. Don't want it to become a habit, but don't know how else to get any sleep!
We also don't have any family close by - having just been home down under for a visit for a month, I have to admit I'm pretty homesick now, which has never happened before - possibly to do with having my eyes opened to the wonders of having family babysitters while we were there!! We actually got to go out for a drink and dinner with pals - omigod. Feel quite isolated now we're back, and I think that's making the lack of sleep harder to deal with. That as well as deadlines for work (I'm freelance) is making life feel pretty hard at the moment.
Need to take myself outside and give myself a talking to! And remind myself how lucky we are to have the wee one at all. And he is lovely, most of the time!
Anyhoo. Stream-of-consciousness post over. My neighbour recommended a glow seahorse toy that she used with her lo so will do some Amazon shopping today...

And hi lily! I think the fact that he's heard the bagpipes since he was a foetus helps... He really doesn't seem to mind them! As long as he's not actually in the same room, he's not bothered. He absolutely loves anyone singing to him, which is lovely for me as I love singing - only problem is that he equates singing with playtime, so lullabies are no good lol

Are you an Aussie like me then, Rural?

Sorry, other side of the ditch elphaba! I'm from NZ (hence the recent long-hauls!). Have you been back home with your wee ones? I was so nervous about the flights before we went, but he wasn't too bad!

No, I haven't. Too little sleep, too far to go. The mere idea of DS1 + long haul + jet lag makes me weak. The only family I care about (my mum) is in the UK anyway, so absolutely no point in the trauma of the trek, IMO!

argh! dd has decided she won't go to sleep for dh any more. Very annoying! Today I dared to go to the shops while dh was trying to put her to bed and she escaped from her room and wailed by the front door until dh managed to carry her back to her bedroom. She was still wailing when I got home. Of course I'm not helping at all by relenting and cuddling her to sleep.

I know I could solve this by doing some gradual withdrawal but the thing is I am really enjoying snuggling up at bed time with her at the moment. I'm just not feeling emotionally strong enough for sleep training. If it's up to me right now I'd happily ride the mo fo out. However, I'm starting an evening class on Tuesday and will be out the house between 6:15-9:45 once a week, so we're going to have to do something.

There must have been a memo... DD1 ended up in our bed at 4.30 after an hour and a half trying to persuade her to go back to sleep on her own bed. She was under firm instructions not to wriggle else it was straight back to her bed... The threat seemed to work! DD2 is teething I think. Slight temperature and refusing to go to sleep unless I'm sat next to the cot. Thank god for mumsnet and wine

Thank god she's finally given in and gone to sleep. My backside is numb and I've run out of wine!

Lions we went through this too and would probably still be in the same position if DD2 hadn't come along. OH started doing her bath when I was heavily pregnant and struggling lifting her in and out of the bath, then I would take over and do pjs and story etc and sit with her if necessary. Then he gradually did more and more and now does her whole bedtime routine while I sort DD2.

Think I've said it before too but talking books were a massive turning point with DD1. She still has stories on now which I think helps with DD2s wailing when she wakes in the night.

Rural, both mine have star projectors/night lights. CBA to find link now but will look tomorrow. They can put the stars on themselves by touching the top and they both love them.