High-Need Baby Support Thread III

[TitaniaP]

Well as I'm awake I thought I'd start thread 3!

The high-need baby thread has been moved from breast & bottle feeding to sleep. In the early days of the thread I think feeding was a significant issue for many of the posters. I think those that post regularly on the thread would now agree that's it's mainly sleep that's the issue.

So if your baby fits the following criteria come and join us for wine, chocolate, coffee and matchsticks as we delight in our active, inquisitive, curious and restless babies or toddlers!

1. Feeds frequently daytime
2. Feeds frequently nighttime
3. Needs to be constantly held
4. Wont sleep alone
5. Hates the car seat/pram
6. Short naps

hi everyone

sorry ds still not well titania you must be so tired! you mum sounds great. its a shame you can't bf him, but there must be a good reason why they are all saying no for the minute, although i can understand the temptation when he isn't well and when u feel fed up just to want to give him a big cuddle and bf - i hope its not for too long.

spanner, tickleme, attruth good luck for the nursery settling in, im sure the lO's will have a fab time, they will be seeing lots of new things, new faces, loads of toys they won't have at home - it will be hard on you at first but they are going to love it. you will have to keep busy while they are there though otherwise you will probably pine for them quite bad at first!

Queen Jeewizz LWL how did your nights go last night? hoping you all got some sleep. my night went slightly better....i think it was just an answer to prayer because she was overtired last night and didn't feed well yesterday too. although when she woke at 5 i couldn't go back to sleep (so stupid isn't it? she sleeping away and me up when i should be catching up my sleep)

dh is sleeping downstairs at the minute as we have a guest in the spare room...and i just heard one of dds toys randomly go off in the living room playing a sing song! he will not be impressed lol

lol he is in a coma at this time !

Oh Titania, you poor thing - I really really hope your DS feels better soon, I can't imagine how awful it must be for you just now.

Joyful - I hope your DS starts to feel better soon too, I had a run of sleeping on the sofa when DS was smaller, I know it's far from comfortable.

Well, our night was erm, shit. Got DS to sleep fine (he was knackered) but he woke after an hour and a half, and then from 11 he woke every 20 mins. After the third time of that I decided just to stay with him. I think I know at least partly why he slept so badly - it's really cold on the floor! I mean, my core temp was ok, it's just the whole hands and face being cold thing, if you know what I mean? I'm sure DS must have been feeling the same! He wanted to get as close to me as possible all night, but I was so uncomfortable! It was actually the other side of me to how he was in the cot next to our bed which I don't think helped me or him. He woke up at least hourly all night, and had a spell of an hour or so when he was Awake. I've had hardly any sleep and feel rough as hell

I definitely can't do that again - but I'd still like to persevere with something, as it's not exactly been given a fair chance! I think we'll try putting the cot with side off up against the single bed in SDS's room (he only stays over once a fortnight, so we have some time without needing his bed!) and see how that goes. It's a shame it's not in DS's room, but if it works out we'll see what the next move will be.

God I hope it works better, I can't stand the thought of another night like that. Not that it would be the first time that i've had several shocking nights in a row...

queen how was your night? How was everyone else's nights?

Morning all,

Jen - sorry your night was crap. But I guess it'll take the little blighters a little while to get used to something new?

Our night was ok. By that, I mean no worse than usual. Which is good in a way, DS clearly doesn't care where he sleeps as long as I am there.

Got him down easily at 7 (earlier bath time is definitely helping here, he is much more relaxed). Then woke at 8 and had a good old scream at DH before I took over and he did that relieved, gulping sobbing off to sleep - like "oh mum, phew, thank god you're here" .

Then stayed down so I could watch Homeland (love it!) He then woke at 11ish as usual, and I think was ok until 3 (it all gets quite blurry). Then he was up and down til 5:30 which was apparently wake up time. So not too horrific but obviously nowhere near how a nearly 10 month old should be sleeping!

Sorry to hear about everyones bad nights. I was up most of the night alternately rocking DS and syringing electrolytes into him. Mum took over at 6am and I got a couple of hours sleep. I had him in the sling for most of the night and he slept on my chest. In fact he's asleep again in the fling now. My beautiful new wrap has serious sleepy dust woven into the fabric!

I did fall asleep on the sofa with him on my chest (bad mum).

He's had some toast with a smearing of jam this morning and some syringed BM. Still a little scared to feed him directly as he guzzles it a bit. I've been pumping but not as much as I should. Am scared ive knackered my supply or that after nearly 3 days he won't latch anymore. He's much much better and I'm so so relieved!

Oh and yes, despite my mums slight suspicion of breast feeding, and not understanding BLW at all, she has been utterly amazing and DS and I are very lucky to have her.

I wouldnt worry too much about your supply - tiktok recently told me that by now your supply is as robust as anything, so hopefully it'll sort itself out. Glad to hear your DS is on the mend.

We had a lovely day today - took DS for a trip down the Thames on a clipper. Am hoping the river air will knacker him out!

Queen that sounds like an amazing day! I'm hoping to be able to get out with DS tomorrow, he's really perked up and has had a bit of EBM and some more toast. He's chatting away now and trying to pull his Nana's earrings.

Good to hear about my supply and Tiktok is the font of all knowledge! Am still pumping though as an very full and sore. Just call me Daisy!

I'm probably quite close to you geographically at the mo, as we're in "Sarf Landon". I'm staying down til Thurs now and then mums coming up for Easter. That way i don't have to drive home with DS on my own. She's fab. Am very lucky.

Yup, I'm sarf-east London so we probably are quite close. Maybe next time you're visiting your mum we can have a mini high needs meet up!

Oooh can I come and play if you do? I'm like 30 minutes from London :)

Something very bizarre just happened. DS had his dinner, bath, story, and feed but was still completely wired and babbling away. Hubby usually rocks him off to sleep but he wasn't having any of it. So we just popped him into his cot to let him get it out of his system, expecting him to start wailing and then let us soothe him to sleep. But he just spent about 5 or 10 minutes shuffling around the cot, grumbling every now and then for a second, but then just fell asleep. Am totally like this

Funny though, he's right down the other end of the cot than normal, and is laying width-ways rather than length-ways. Silly sod

Joyful My mum moved to Selsey last year, is that anywhere near you? :) Love it down there. Glad you had a lovely day with your bubs.

Oh my god - tickle, that's the dream! You definitely can't join the meet up if your DS keeps up this angel baby lark . Congrats!

Ta Queen, I'm fairly sure normal service will be resumed tomorrow evening though...He just likes to tease us with glimpses of what life would be like with a 'normal' baby

Joyful - normally I'm in Brum, but home home is South London. Parents & Family all live down here, but DH and family are all from West Mids. It has hit me since having DS how far away and how important my family are.

Well DS has just fallen asleep on me after just two pats and I've managed to transfer him to the bed. Hoping to get some sleep. Its funny. Now he's feeling a bit better he's a calm quiet version of himself that goes to sleep easily. It's what I dreamed of, but really I want my cheeky, mischievous, inquisitive, active little monkey back. Hopefully he'll be a bit better tomorrow.

Nice work tickle. The babies have been plotting again, they like to give you a glimpse of what they could be like if they wanted to be!

Hi, I joined your thread a few days ago and had a lovely welcome thanks. Am sorry to read about the poorly babies, I hope they get well soon. Am very jealous of tickles self soothing baby, that's how the other half live isn't it?!

I spent my first night away from 6month old DS on Sat. My lovely mum had him for the night so that DP and I could have a proper night out (ie drinking), some sleep and the bed to ourselves. I was really worried about how he would cope with it but apart from one meltdown, he was fine. My mum was fully prepared for how often he wakes during night and he didn't disappoint... He had her rocking him back to sleep every 50mins... My poor mum! At least he would let her rock him, with me he insists on the boob and roots and thrashes about til he gets it. Although she had him in the travel cot, she now understands why we co-sleep.

Anyway, back to business as usual, waking loads and I've had to stop doing buggy fit which I love as he has a meltdown without fail each week. He's actually 6 months this week so weaning starts on Thursday which should be fun...has anyone found it made a difference to sleep?

Strawberry - am jealous of your night out! I haven't dared leave DS overnight with anyone but my amazing mum has done her fair share of night duties in the last couple of days.

I found weaning has made not one bit of difference to night wakings. However it has generally (although it may be purely coincidence) led to him being less grumpy during the day and not needing to feed so frequently.

So DS has had a couple of oz of EBM and no ill effects so far - really think we're through the worst. He's sleeping but I can't - typical!

I have slight stomach cramps at the mo. really hope that the reduced feeding hasn't led to the return of my periods. That would be rubbish.

Lovely post there! Up with a cold-filled DD and it's not the nicest thing to read...

She can't feed or sleep bless her :( Just dosed her with calpol and she's dosing propped upright on my chest.... she's managed water from a sippy cup though

Strawberry - weaning has made no difference to sleep at all. In the short term it actually made it worse as she obviously was in some discomfort as her system adjusted to solids...

I was having fun with that troll! Was going to keep it as a pet :(

Not tried karvol or steamy bathroom yet as it's only just started tonight - she's had the cold for a whle, but it's not bothered her before...