Stuck in a never ending sleep regression

[PDog]

I am beyond exhausted. DD is coming up to 8.5mo and this has been going on for 2 months.

It seems to alternate between horrendous nights or horrendous days with horrendous bedtimes. She just can't switch off - I can't take my eyes off her for a second because she is not happy unless she rolling/grabbing something/putting something in her mouth.

When she does sleep, I have to feed her to sleep but as soon as I try to get her in her cot she wakes up and starts rolling.

She has only had 30 mins sleep all day today and gets more and more hyper. It then takes between 1-3 hours to get her to bed and she will be up to 2-3 times and ready to go by 6am (despite still been shattered).

Anyone offer any advice?

Or anyone in the same boat who wants to moan share experiences.

DD's cold meant she was very unsettled at bedtime last night, which is unusual. We had to resettle her 4 times before she went off. She also woke up once more than usual and took longer to get back after the 03.00 wake-up - snuffling, coughing and sneezing, bless her. In the end, she didn't wake up for the day until 07.45, she must have been worn out by it all.
Anyway, she's remained fairly cheery, so that's okay. Her eating seems all right too, so fingers crossed it'll pass without too much trauma.

It's only her second cold in 8 months, so I figure we've got off fairly lightly...SO FAR...

Tonight is the first night when she's in her own room - but we'll be in there with her.
I'll probably take longer adjusting to the change than she will.

Good luck, AD - naps are such a stress. aren't they? Two of 25 mins each so far today here.. Pram time again this afternoon.

Ooh, PDog, let's hope it's the shape of things to come...

Morning ladies...

Well, in true rendom-baby style things went t*ts up again last night after an excellent day's napping, fitting perfectly into the 2-3-4 routine, I think I timed it slightly wrong and put her to bed just a tad too late (7.15) and usually when this happens she takes a while to settle, but she went into TOTAL MELTDOWN and was still screaming/crying at 9.45pm - after me, DH both tryig to calm her, more boob, bringing her downstairs, white noise...
She did drop-off at one point while I sat on the chair in her room just saying 'shush', but as I tried to creep out I stood on the creaky floorboard and that was it, she was screaming again!!!! She finally went off just before 10 and as a result she was up at 12 (for an hour - more screaming, so Nurofen given as it sounded like teeth) and then at 3, 5 and for the day about 7.30. She has since had one 40 min nap, but she looks exhausted so I am putting her down again as soon as I think she will go...

PDog things sound promising for you there...

IC I bet you will find she will settle into her room without a fuss. Good luck anyway!

AngelDog sounds like you are having the same prob as me, OK one day and then rubbish the next...

I do think that both of DDs teeth have broken through the gum now, so maybe that was last nights problem. Fingers crossed tonight is better.

Well, DD's first night in her own room (albeit with me and DH on a mattress on the floor) went very well - she woke three times, but resettled herself after a little fidgeting for one of those, so only two feeds between 19.15 and 06.45. Although we were in there too, I'm not sure DD was even really aware of us, in which case I'm hoping tonight she'll be similarly mellow without us there.

I must resist the temptation to keep checking on her...and I suspect my own sleep will suffer a bit, but hopefully we'll all settle down again okay...

Hope everyone else has managed to have a reasonably restful weekend.

Glad it went well IC - hope tonight goes just as well.

Well things are just going from bad to worse in the Curly camp. For the 4th night this week, DD is taking up to 2.5 hours to settle for bed and it's driving me crazy. According to my Wonder Weeks book, there is a developmental leap about now which can cause havoc with sleep and so i guess I just need to ride it out, but so far this evening she has been SCREAMING for over an hour. She goes to sleep initially, but wakes herself up before she gets into deep sleep, usually within 10 mins, and then the screaming ensues...
It doesn't help if I pick her up, or BF her, or take her downstairs, she just will not give in until she is ready and I don't know what else I can try...

It's getting me down now because I really need some me-time in the evenings to spend some time with DH, and listening to her scream is just sooooo stressful for me (although he doesn't get so distressed by it) and I just want to either scream myself or cry! Please let this pass soon.

Good news IC, sounds like your DD might be OK tonight. I found the first few nights without DD next me quite hard but now I sleep much better (although stumbling to her room 3/4 times a night is much harder).

I feel for you Curly. I had the same thing around the time I started the thread. I've no idea what caused but it was horrible so you have my sympathy. The good news is it did pass after about 4/5 nights. I think, in part, in was down to overtiredness as it was worse when she hadn't napped well during the day.

Well, we haven't had much improvement here. DD seems to have decided that she only needs one nap as she either sleeps morning or afternoon - not both. She has also been up lots during the nights so I am shattered.

We are also struggling with early wake ups, around 5.30am. She is very obviously still tired - crying and rubbing her eyes - but will not go back to sleep no matter what I try.

Maybe I need to try the 2,3,4 thing instead of set times?

Also, how do you settle your LO for bed? DD is so tired from rubbish naps she falls asleep quite quickly while feeding. It takes ages to get her down though as she wakes every 10 mins or so for more milk. Has anyone tried feeding before bath? Bit nervous about trying this as think it will just end up taking twice as long and I will be double feeding.

Thanks PDog sorry to hear your nights are unsettled too, and the early mornings - ugh, I feel for you!

I wondered if it was overtireness with DD too, but it seems to happen whether she has napped well or not She is asleep now - finally dropped off about 8.40pm - she first went down at just gone 7 .

I think the problem might be that she seems to not be ready to drop to 2 naps, but 3 is sometimes too many for her now IYSWIM? If she has a 3rd nap it usually happens so late that bedtime has to be pushed back. I am trying the 2-3-4 thing myself as a result, but slightly tweaking the times to 2-2.5-3.5 (ish) depending on how long the naps are of course - if she has a 2hr nap popst-lunch then this works much better, but if it's only a shortish nap, then I do still try for a 3rd.

Hopefully things will improve as she gets a bit more used to 2 naps...

On the subject of settling before bed, I have sometimes fed DD from one boob before bath/wash and then feed from the other side once she is ready for bed to get her drowsy. I don't think it would work to do the full feed pre-bath, but it may work for you as your DD is older.

Well, last night's first time in own room for DD (minus parents) wasn't an unqualified success - although not a disaster, either.

DD woke up at 22.30, which is early for her nowadays, but fed back to sleep quite quickly. She woke up next at 02.30 and it took over an hour and three attempts to get her resettled. The next awakening was at 06.00 and I wasn't very optimistic that she would go back down, but the unsettled period had obviously left her with a sleep hole she needed to fill, because she nodded off again without too much difficulty and slept until 08.00. So, not brilliant overall, but not terrible.

My own sleep was pretty cack, as I thought it probably would be. Maternal separation anxiety. I'm assuming I'll get over it as I get used to the change, thanks for the reassurance PDog.

Oh, my sympathies to both of you, curly and PDog...

Re: naps:
With my DD, I'm finding the gaps need to be 2-2-2.5-3. She can only cope on two naps if they are longish and they usually aren't! Much more than 3 hours between the end of the last nap and bed-time is really tough for her and results in poor feeding etc.
So I guess what I'm saying, is it probably makes sense to adjust the times to what seems to work with your LO. My DD doesn't wake at the same time everyday, so I time naps from each wake-up rather than trying for a specific napping schedule at this stage.

With the final feed, PDog, I usually breastfeed DD between 16.30 and 17.00, give her dinner (mixture of purees and finger foods, usually including Greek yoghurt or some other easily digested protein)between 17.30 and 18.00, then begin the bedtime feed at some point between 18.45 and 19.15, depending how tired DD is.

That way, even if the final feed is a bit truncated, I'm satisfied she's had a reasonably amount of calories by bedtime. I also try and sit her up to feed and sing to her quite loudly in an effort to stop her nodding straight off before she's had at least some milk. And I switch her from breast-to-breast too.

It doesn't stop DD waking up, of course - but I'm pretty sure she doesn't wake from hunger, but wants a feed to resettle her. Now she will (mostly) let me put her down after feeding herself drowsy again, I don't mind TOO much. Unless it gets really frequent again, I figure she can have this form of resettling until she's a year old (if it sounds like she would take ages to resettle herself without a feed).

HTH!

Hi all,
PDog - I've been messing around with the evening routine for similar reasons and have tried the last feed before bath. We were originally doing dinner at 5.30-6ish, bath at 6.15, then up to room with soft lighting, into babygro and sleeping bag, then final feed. Of course DS was always struggling to stay awake and more often than not was falling asleep feeding. So, I'm trying to put him down awake now, and [crosses fingers. hard. tempts fate all over the place] it seems to be working.

For a couple of days we did dinner, story, boob, bath, bed, but that meant that milk was too soon after dinner so he wasn't really keen. So, I've gone back to the old order/timings, but instead of last feed being in dim room in babygro etc, I'm keeping the lights on and feeding him in just his vest. Then once he's fed, getting him in to PJs/bag etc and putting down. We've had a bit of crying, but no more than 5 mins (though as a warning, he is pretty good at self-settling, it's staying asleep that's the problem in our house, so this may not work if getting off is an issue).

As a result, we've had four consecutive days of solid sleep between 7pm and 11pm, a very sleepy dreamfeed at 11, then... between 4-5 hours sleep afterwards. Last night he woke for the first time at... 5am! The longest he's EVER slept!

I'm a little bit sad about the end of our snuggly final feed, as I've always loved the falling asleep cuddly bit. It feels like he's getting less milk as he actually only feeds for a few minutes before wriggling away - but I guess that before it was a lot of comfort sucking rather than eating.

I'd say that it's worth a try to avoid feeding to sleep.

Hello chaps.

PDog, I reckon it's worth giving the 2-3-4 pattern a go. One of my friends with a DS your DD's age (who's not a great sleeper) has had similar problems with him not wanting more than one nap. She's cut down to just one nap, but he does sleep for 2 hours then. It's young for going to just one afternoon nap, but some babies do at this stage. However, given how overtired your DD is, I think the 2-3-4 is worth a try first.

IC, I'm glad that having your DD in her own room worked well.

Curly, I think some babies do scream when they get overtired - they just can't go to sleep or stay asleep without doing so. It could be maybe general overtiredness even if that particular day's naps have been okay??

I think we may be officially in the 9 month sleep regression. We've had a lot more short naps than usual, especially at lunchtime but also in the morning.

The last 2 nights DS has been awake for 1.5 hours from around 21.30 (he's never done this before) as well as awake for another 1.5 hours from around 4.30am (normal when he gets overtired). He looks tired, has red eyes and was screaming at bedtime. :( It felt like a throwback to the bad old days of the challenging 3 month olds thread.

Recently when he was up, he was happy to roam around his cot in the dark while I dozed in bed till he got drowsy & needed patting/rocking. But now he gets really cross if I leave him in his cot so I have to spend my awake time rocking him.

On a more positive note, though, when I rock him for naps, I've been singing to him. When I'm rocking in the night, I'm humming the same tune, and he now usually puts his head against my chest even if he's not actually drowsy, rather trying to poke my eye out / bite my shoulder / pinch my throat. That's definitely progress! :)

Moxie describes this regression as 'you've got a brain working on developmental stuff that won't let the kid sleep, a brain and body working on movement that won't let the kid sleep, and maybe some random shooting or throbbing gum and jaw pain in there, too.'

I thought we might get away without the movement / teeth complicating things, but DS started pushing up onto all fours at the w/e, and pulled up from lying to sitting on his own for the first time today. One tooth is coming through and another will shortly follow. So I'm not surprised it's all hitting us now.

Tomorrow night I'm going out for the evening and leaving DS with DH for the first time since he was born - assuming I can get him off to sleep before I go. I hope they both survive! I think I'll do both his naps on my lap tomorrow as he often wakes 5-10 mins after putting him down for the second sleep cycle.

Onwards and upwards, though. I'm so glad I know about regressions and have a reason for knowing it will pass.

And at least now I don't have to wear him in a sling for naps - good job too since he weighs nearly 2 stone! :)

Thanks all. She is not great at self settling so am not too sure about feeding before bath but I need to get her less dependent on the boob at some point. At the minute every time she wakes up, she needs boob to get back to sleep and I am exhausted (again).

IC hope you both have a better night tonight. It does get better once you get used to.

FofF sounds like you are making progress.

Sounds like you have definitely hit the next regression AngelDog. Hope you enjoy your night out and your DH survives.

Things have been a bit strange today. Think things might have caught up with DD as she has been grouchy all day and rubbing her eyes lots. She had 2 naps of 45 mins today (we were at a friends house this afternoon so no chance of a longer nap). I went for an early bedtime and she has been fast asleep since 6.30pm. Hoping she has a good night as DH is away and I find it much harder to cope on my own - even he can't help with the wake ups.

Bloody sleep regressions!!! I seem to remember Moxie saying the 8/9 month one was a particular killer because so many LOs have got more settled sleep patterns by the time it hits. Oh well, that's something we're less likely to miss....
TTSP, AD, TTSP...

Good news, FoF!

Night Two of solo in own room for DD was much better. She woke, but resettled herself quickly at 23.00 then after that only two awakenings until 07.40: at 01.15 and 05.30. My sleep was a wee bit better, but I still have the maternal insomnia going on. Valerian tea tonight, methinks.

The last sure-thing pram nap was messed up today when DD woke after 20 mins and refused to go back to sleep again. That meant she had to go an extra hour (on less than half the normal final nap) until bedtime. Thankfully, she remained in a good mood until bedtime and had a hearty supper.

Unfortunately, when she was on the final feed, she'd just got to the point of nodding off on the breast, when I had a coughing fit, which woke her up with a fright and made her cry. She soon calmed down, but then got hiccups. Well, it's one way of making sure she goes down awake, but a bit harsh, poor wee mite. Anyway. I held her until the hiccups went, then put her down (awake) - she rolled onto her side and fell asleep almost immediately.
So, PDog, if all else fails, try a coughing fit....

Good luck for tonight, ladies...

Hi all,
thought I'd pop my head round the door and see how things are getting on.

Sounds like things have been up and down with you all and of course there's those damn regressions to deal with.

Minicrikey has some good nights, some bad. Now he can usually manage to go from about 7pm to 5 or 6am. He does have a tooth coming through though and the other night I felt like a yo yo going back and forward all night. Relented in the end and fed him back to sleep a couple of times.

Naps are proving tricky, mainly because I'm out and about so much doing school runs etc. and he tends to nap in the car. However today he managed a lovely long nap in the afternoon. Funnily enough DS2 also fell asleep after being at school for the morning. So what did I do? Relax, mumsnet, read? No, I cleaned out the darned fridge. Oh well it certainly needed doing.

DH is away too AD, but I take the opportunity to go to bed early with hot choc and biscuits. Oh, what an exciting life I lead.

crikey, sounds generally good. You live a life which is almost as exciting as mine. Only my fridge is still filthy.

IC, great news on the night.

PDog, hope your DD does better tonight - I know what you mean about it being harder to cope with DH away, even when they don't do the night shift.

DS and DH both survived this evening without me, even though DH had to get him to sleep at bedtime as DS was still wide awake when I had to go out. DS woke twice and apparently got to the screamy stage once, when DH thought he'd leave him for a bit to see if he'd settle himself but was asleep by the time I got home. :)

Last night I was up more times than I care to remember - DS's sleep cycle seemed to have shortened from 1.5-2 hours to 1-1.5 hours. Didn't wake for the day till 6.00 though (not bad) and lap naps worked very well - 1 hr + 2 hrs which is more than he ever gets in the cot. A good excuse for me to spend half my day reading too.

DS spent most of his awake time trying to crawl backwards - with fair success - so hopefully as he gets the hang of it, his sleep might calm down a little. I'm feeling quite cheerful all round.

Good news crikey, gives me hope that things will improve. I have this idea that once she hits 10 month, we will see a dramatic improvment .

Glad you had a better night IC. I do have the monitor set on the highest for volume and sensitivity right next to my bed shuffle.

AngelDog glad to hear you had a nice evening and your DH survived.

DD slept for a total of 30 mins yesterday so went for another early bedtime. She has been up since 5am though and had her usual 10 minute this morning. She is now overtired and in need of constant attention - it is going to be a long day.

crikey, it gives us all hope!

AD, I sometimes wish you were my mum...! You sound so patient with it, yet you clearly have a lot of sleep deprivation to contend with.

Hope the day wasn't too unbearable, PDog...

Last night was pretty good - 2 wake ups between 19.30 and 05.45. I tried to settle her after the second one, but two attempts didn't get more than about fifteen minutes more sleep out of her. She was still tired though, fell asleep again at 07.45 for half an hour or so.

1.5 hr pram nap today (after two half hour jobbies) - fingers crossed.

My own sleep last night was again slightly improved. Hopefully I'll catch DD up soon in the improvement stakes!!

IC, what a lovely thing to say. Actually, given that I've always been an 8-hours-straight-through-and-moaning-if-I-have-to-get-up-once-for-the-loo kind of girl I cope with the sleep deprivation far better than I ever expected. :) But I'm always thinking of you as superwoman - DS has had far more spells of decent sleep than your DD has.

Hope your sleep keeps improving too.

And DS is just so cute, I can forgive it all!

PDog, hope you got through today. It's such hard work when they're overtired, isn't it?

Last night was pretty good here actually - woke at midnight and then slept till 5.30, I think.

He had a shorter than usual lunchtime nap so was shrieky by dinner, but I managed to get him to bed a bit early so hopefully that will help.

Supertiredwoman, more like AD .
Do you realise your DS "slept through" last night?! Given the midnight-0500 definition. I bet it doesn't really feel like sleeping through, though, does it?! Still, good stretch from your LO!!

DD only woke twice again last night, but on the second of those took 1.5hrs-ish and three attempts on my part to resettle . But still, I felt okay because I managed to sleep a bit better again betweentimes, so not too bad a night from a personal point of view. She woke at 07.25, too.
I tend to comfort myself with the likelihood that an overnight long-ish disturbance will usually lead to a post 7am wake up, bless DD for that! Naps are still a PITA, but DH took her out for a longish siesta this afternoon to make up for the pathetic attempts earlier.

I do wonder what to do about the naps. DD is so dependent on me feeding her to sleep that the problem she used to have overnight is now disrupting her napping - ie, she becomes aware that she's unlatched and wakes up and makes a fuss about it, so doesn't manage a good stretch (unless she's in the moving pram). I'm thinking I should stop feeding her to sleep, but nothing else really does the trick apart from the moving pram and I don't have the "biological imperative" of nighttime=sleep time....
Any suggestions...??!

I'm wondering if I should go the whole hog and simply reproduce the bedtime routine entirely (sans bath)...but I'm not sure that confusing her that it's nighttime is such a great idea.

Hmm.... er, AD, Igglybluff?

Ugh, IC, the up for 1.5 hours is not much fun is it - but glad that you got a bit more sleep.

On the naps - um. I used to find that DS wanted to stay latched on if he was overtired. Could you try for a nap at shorter intervals? Teething and developmental spurts seemed to make it worse too.

I found that I was much more able to put DS down after feeding to sleep for naps when I started always getting DS up at the same time in the morning irrespective of how well/badly he'd slept, and doing naps by the clock instead of following tired signs. Don't know if that was a coincidence or not, but could be worth a try. Before that, he had to sleep on my lap as he'd wake and refuse to go back off once I tried to put him down.

Could you do a moving pram for all naps? If you want to stay indoors, could you roll it over a threshold?

Can you rock her to sleep?

Have you tried the Pantley Pull Off for naps?

Have you tried letting her whinge for a bit?

I wouldn't do the whole bedtime routine myself just because it's a bit of a hassle. I suppose you could try doing the last bit of it, but I'm dubious myself.

Have you tried introducing sleep cue words / music / whatever when she's getting drowsy? You can then use that to help her get drowsy when you're trying to get her to sleep for naps.

'Sleeping through' - hah, you're right, and iit didn't feel like it (but better than it often is!)

Last night he was up for 1.5 hours between 01.30 and 3.00 which was no fun. He's often up that length of time but usually from 3 or 4am, so it threw me being at an unusual time! But he didn't nap long enough at lunchtime, so that's no surprise. A short nap again today. :(

He's clearly tired most of the time, as it takes much less for him to get upset and life is a lot more fraught than usual - unless like this evening he gets hyperactive instead. However, one advantage of overtiredness is that feeding to sleep works then! I need to get my act sorted to get him to bed sooner.

Oh, bad luck AD on the overnight resettle and the short naps - I feel for you there!

I'll mull over the nap schedule idea. I guess I'm loathe to wake up DD in the morning if she's still asleep - but it's unusual she sleeps beyond 07.20, anyway (unless she's had a really bad night).

Interestingly, DD just had her first nap in her cot this morning. It was only 25 mins, but given that the pram naps (when not in motion) are getting less successful all the time, I figured I needed to change tactic. So I did a cut-down version of the bedtime routine (put on sleeping bag, fed in the normal place, sang the usual lullaby, pulled the blackout blind down, took DD off the breast before putting her in her cot...) and she at least let me put her down and fell asleep without more than a momentary token protest. I'm thankful for a nap duration of more than ten minutes at the moment...! And last time I tried to put her in her cot for a nap she screamed, so this was better. We'll see if it works again [fingers crossed emoticon]

Essentially, it was Pantley Pull Off. And I suppose by using the same sleep cues as nighttime, DD at least knew what was expected of her, hence rolling over and nodding off after I put her down.

I feel vaguely encouraged, anyhow.

Hi ladies...

Yes I am still here and stuck in the never ending regression - bet you thought DD was sleeping through when I hadn't been on for a few days?!

Well, things have been up and down really and DD has a cold this week (as well as me and DH) so some of the nights have been tough, and yet naps have been fine, or actually quite good (probably jinxed it now).

Yesterday DD slept for 2.5 hours after lunch and I had to wake her up in the end as it was 4pm and I was worried about nighttime sleep...and right I was to worry - she went down at 8pm and I thought 'lovely' and then she woke at 8.30 and didn't go back to sleep until 10pm. We tried everything!
She then woke at 1am which is her usual time, I fed her and she seemed to go straight back to sleep only to wake up about 20 mins later. It turned into a nightmare as she didn't go back to sleep until 3am . I then couldn't go back to sleep as I was coughing so much, and so was knackered when DD then decided to start her day at 6.30am. [shattered emoticon] I thought she might have gone to 7.30 or 8, but no. She is miserable today too as she clearly didn't get enough sleep last night either.

I'm not sure this not-going-to-sleep-at-nighttime is overtiredness tbh, as she clearly wasn't overtired yesterday. I think it's partly the cold and partly developmental, and it's driving me mad. It's been on and off for a couple of weeks now so hopefully it will settle soon.

IC that was what I did with naps in the end as DD just was getting worse and worse. I just put her down one day into sleeping bag etc etc, gave her her blankie and left her to it. She whinged for a bit but was fast asleep in 10 mins - she usually goes to sleep like this every day now after lunch - although this doesn't work for her morning nap stragely... as she knows what's expected I suppose.

Sorry things seem to be unsettled for you too AD - those nighttime wake ups when the DCs wont go back to sleep are a PITA aren't they?!

Onwards and upwards...this will pass...this will pass

Ugh, curly, that doesn't sound much fun.

The waking after 30-45 mins and then refusing to go back to sleep sounds familiar and I think it is developmental. I had a similar issue start around 4 months (although DS could be persuaded to go back off fairly easily) and when I posted on here, quite a few people said it happened to their DC at the same age, but stopped by around 5 months.

:) on the progress on today's naps as least, IC.

Poor DS is sorely trying my patience at the moment, during the day at least. He spends half his time wailing or shrieking. If you take away something he was playing with or trying to eat, he goes ballistic. If you lie him down or sit him up when he doesn't want to, he goes mental.

I had to carry him halfway round town when he had several meltdowns in the pushchair, which is very unusual nowadays.

He's been refusing to eat anything at dinner (which doesn't overly bother me) and just as I'm about to take the welcome opportunity to put him to bed extra early, he decides he is hungry and ends up taking ages so he's in bed late. Tonight he wouldn't feed before bedtime. :( We had yet another shortish lunchtime nap too, despite keeping him on my lap.

I'm sure it's a combination of developmental / tiredness / teething but it's not much fun.

On the positive side, he slept from around 10.30 - 3.30 last night although he was up for the day at 5.30. I was amazed that having fed him at 3.30, he had a huge feed from both sides just 2 hours later.

Oh dear, we're all having another setback or two, aren't we...?

Nap Two in the cot yesterday took three attempts and resulted in a sleep duration of...wait for it... 15 mins. Back in the pram after that.
Today I gave up the cot after three failed attempts and put her in the pram. 20 golden minutes.

Last night wasn't great either because DD has a tummy bug, which meant two overnight nappy changes and she was running a temperature. Bless her, she didn't cry or act distressed, but was very restless, not surprisingly. I broke my own rule and took DD into bed beside me and fed her to sleep lying down (unlatched her afterwards) just so she would get some more sleep. I didn't blame her for any of it though, illness is illness. Hopefully it'll pass quickly and we'll have a better night tonight. Meanwhile, she's back on breast milk only for a day until it clears.

Here's to a weekend that gets better (clocks go forward, though - could be interesting...)

Oops, ignore me about the clocks!

They go back and it's the last weekend in Oct...

Morning All!

DD seems to have got over her tummy bug and slept much better last night, although I had to do a nappy change after a pee leak, which was annoying. DD's taken to sleeping on her side and the nappies have no containment there. When we had this problem before I simply put DD on her back and encouraged her to sleep that way and the leaks stopped. But now she's big enough to change position, so that won't work. I'm thinking of attempting to reinforce the sides of the nappies somehow or maybe switch to disposables for overnight. But would they have the same problem? I'm not sure. Any thoughts??

Anyhow, more wake-ups than usual last night because DD was probably needing to replace calories/fluids, but she went back to sleep after each one pretty quickly and woke up for the day at 07.40.

Just had a fight with her to get her to take a nap in the cot. She really wasn't having any. DH is now out with her in the pram.

Here's hoping the rest of you managed to get some quality sleep...