FWR being trolled by a user called AidaP

[Hedgehogforshort]

Hi MNHQ can you please address the issue of a certain poster called AidaP who is not participating in debate he is just trolling.

to be clear this person is a trans woman who has been convicted of violence and is posting promotion of acts of violence against women elsewhere.

in particular there is one elsewhere about using a roughly hewn rolling pin to rape women.

you realy need to look in to him it is just so not on that he is being allowed to bother us here.

Safeguarding is not just for children at all. That is one aspect of safeguarding. Safeguarding is for any vulnerable person.

MN bans on IP addresses etc. Sure a Previously banned poster can reregister but then they can be banned again. Their net is actually pretty good.

Who is inherently vulnerable on this site? Women?

and because it is an inanimate object and not a human, it will not be considered a threat.

yes. And if could be said, anyone who is considered a target for such a threat.

I agree

Women arent inherently vulnerable adults who need safeguarding. Let's not encourage that line of thinking, please.

So if I said "Fuck Aida", would you consider that a rape threat?

If someone said to me "fuck you" in response to my post, is that saying they want to fuck me without my consent?

This is all so unhinged

And yet, they are when it comes to establishing policies that are designed to provide them with protection from harm, those are based on safeguarding principles and always have done.

Talking about safeguarding is not taking any power away from women. Safeguarding is one of the equitable accommodations women and girls need to protect them. Even things like providing a woman to chaperone in a medical appointment where a male doctor might be doing a skin check on a female patient is part of that. Maybe you notice these things.

If you said 'fuck x with a splintery rolling pin' then yes, I would consider that a threat. If you are inclined to say things like that, perhaps you should reconsider doing that.

I asked a specific question. I'm asking if you think every time someone says "fuck that person", you see it as a rape threat. Or only when they add the latter.

See to me, if I thought someone was saying "kill him", I'd object (in most cases); I wouldn't need someone to say "kill him with a gun" for it to be objectionable.

Do they specifically use language like "safeguarding" in these documents?

The reason that the splintery baseball bat is particularly pertinent is the additional damage such an act would cause. Its not just the potential violent sexual assault but the permanent internal damage that would cause.

To be fair to AidaP, he threatened a splintery rolling pin and not a baseball bat.

The damage the pin would inflict on a woman who was being fucked by it is still horrific though.

It is certainly not just that "the username 'looks' the same".

The bloke himself has stated it is him. He is proud of it. He posted a link, on MN, to his own Bluesky account to prove this.

I'm very surprised Cecilia didn't mention that.

Yes but if I really thought "fuck that person" meant that, just the SA would be enough. Just the "fuck you/him/them/Susan".

I'm not only concerned about SA when violence is a problem. So I'd be speaking up anytime anyone said "fuck them", irrespective of whether I agreed that the person in question is bad or not.

I have no firsthand knowledge of that.

Please, take a step back and look at yourself. Whether it is a "rape threat" or not, you are defending someone who chose to demeaning a women with the phrase "fuck her with a splintery rolling pin" simply because he disagrees with her.

Surely you can't think that is ok?

Well, now you do.

Please learn from this, and next time make sure you have the full facts before misdirecting people.

Agreed.

I mean, people use that language quite frequently. It isnt particualrly shocking to me, no. Saying someone should die or be hurt, that's crossing a line. But if "fuck you" isnt inherently a rape threat ("Whether it is a "rape threat" or not"), then no, I don't think it's too far in that type of company (Social Media).

If you were at work or even on this forum, then yes, too far outside of the CoC for those places.

No I have second hand knowledge. And as I originally took for gospel what you guys said about the "rape threat", I am now more sceptical about your other statements.

Things here must have changed as he was very much persona no gratis with many for some of his off site communications

I would like to mindfully repeat and amplify that AidaP has expressed a desire for his opponents to be subject to aggravated sexual assault.