Mn, do you know that Miriam Stoppard,your latest recruit in the ceaseless campaign to get us to buy even more unnecessary crap for our children works for Nestle and is hustling health journalists to join her at the Nestle luxury HQ in Switzerland to ...

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Read all about it in Baby Milk Action

Lovely lady eh?

LOL!

did I miss the day when the list was handed out about what we are allowed to have an opinion on then?

I will fight you to the death over my right to not care by the way ...

agree with olive's post of 09:35:26

("good god, MN can't do anything right can they... not everyone is against...")

indeed

that was my point about mcd's on the other thread too

yes twig

anyway hunker vvvqv, I do care about breastfeeding and whatever else was on your list, just not to the same level of obsession

I do not ban Nestle as I, like Fio, am quite partial to the odd Kitkat and dd1 likes Cherios

If you care about it then surely you too think using some of the budget for the book deal would be a good idea to do a book on breastfeeding? (I have read the thread and am aware they haven't said 'No', just won't commit themselves to saying 'Yes' either.)
Breastfeeding is one of the issues women all over the country are misinformed about and not supported properly with.
If MN did a book that stated facts, i.e. Your milk doesnt run out, you can eat curry, you will be feeding constantly for the first few eeks/months, you are entitled to feed anywhere, formula does have risks assocaited with it (though for a second best it's does the job it's meant to) etc etc not only would it be helpful for all the women who go into BFing blind (which I believe is a big part of people stopping, they dont know what they have signed up for) and it would make Mn a good profit.
Win-win IMO.
I do wonder why someone who 'doesn't care' would bother commenting tbh, threads I don't care about I leave to the people who do.

couldntcarelessexcepticould OO and twig, you will fight to the death about your right not to care, and I will fight to the death re my right to care.

The fact that you dont care, doesnt make what I care about less important, except only to you. I do find it bizarre that folk are singled out for "caring too much"

"I absolutely detest socialist workers activists btw"

read that as social worker activists!!!

folks are singled out for going on too much imo

I am a Tesco shopper [MN recoils from multinational murdering scum shop] so do not requent Sainsburys

honey nut loops are just as nice as cheerios, in my DC's opinion anyway.

How much is too much?

Nestle are still killing babies and b/feeding rates in this cuntry are still piss-poor?

Is "our" work done then?

Honey nut loops are now just honey loops and imo greatly poorer because of the lack of nut

bloody allergicky kids, spoiling it for everyone. if only they'd been breastfed...

I haven't singled anyone out, nor have I had a go at anyone

well not today anyway

I know. They spoil it for everyone don't they

(why can't they make a nut and a non nut one btw?)

Maybe we should start a mass email campaign and offer them MN advertisin spac if they start up nut ones again...

I think an MN book about bfing is a great idea. I'm just not sure that it's up to MN to decide which topics will be covered in the books - it might well be that the publisher has the final say in the matter.

Re. caring/not caring about Nestle: I wonder whether there are some people who think that the anti-Nestle campaign is a proxy for an anti-formula campaign. The Nestle campaign has been going on for so long that activists tend to assume that everyone knows what the issues are, but in fact I think a lot of people assume that it's a generalised campaign against formula, or a thinly-veiled excuse for one. (NB - I know thst this is not the case.)

You're probably right policywonk, I do feel I have to make a point that I'm not against formula per se, just the misinformation surrounding it on any Nestle, or even just breastfeeding, threads tbh.
It seems being pro-breastfeeding and boycotting nestle must mean you are anti-ff

Ooh a fine plan VS!

Oh dear, my prenancy brain is really stuffing up and the moment. This time the are on me......

Hopefully this time, I will make slightly more sense (fingers crossed emoticon). I do not agree with what Nestle do at all. I spent a lot of time in some developing countries and saw the effect of tireless marketing on babies there. It broke my heart. It gets under my collar that supposedly intelligent people like Ms Stoppard can work wih them. Hope that clarifies things. And don't worry - even if Nestle brought out a wonder drink that would cure me of my inability to string a sentnece together at the moment, I wouldn't touch the stuff .

HUGE apologies to anyone who misunderstood my ramblings. I swear I wasn't this bad with my last pregnancy! Won't even begin to tell you how many times I have had to write this and correct spelling mistakes........

I have got to be honest, getting het up about formula advertising isnt my bag either and I do still buy Nestle. I think we all tend to boycott and fight for things that we feel passionate about and of course its important if its killing people. I really dislike MS as her book really fucked upset me when I was at the bottom anyway. Plus she does a stupid agony aunt column for the daily mirror, how could you get any worse? But this is seperate from an advert which mn is just advertising to keep the site going.

We have to be very careful when being passionate about something that it does not come accross as agressive. I think quite a few of us are guilty of this and I include myself

I agree fio
but I think we also have to be careful that when we scoff and deride other people's passionately-held opinions because we don't share them that we don't come across as sneering and superior
of which I am as guilty as the next snotty mumsnetter

Sorry I wasnt scoffing or sneering if it came accross that way. I havent got the energy to tbh

Agree 100% Harpsi

Morningpaper:

"By morningpaper on Thu 24-Apr-08 09:06:10
As an aside, do people think that breastfeeding BOOKS are actually useful?

I've never read anything in a book about breastfeeding that has been helpful.

PERSONALLY I've always needed real-time advice from people (the main advice being YOU ARE DOING REALLY WELL)

Just wondered what you think a breastfeeding book would SAY for 100,000 words that would really help mums?"

I dont know - about as helpful as a book on Toddlers , Pregnancy, Babies and Recipes/food maybe?

How many b/feeding books have you read, btw?