Mn, do you know that Miriam Stoppard,your latest recruit in the ceaseless campaign to get us to buy even more unnecessary crap for our children works for Nestle and is hustling health journalists to join her at the Nestle luxury HQ in Switzerland to ...

[moondog]

Read all about it in Baby Milk Action

Lovely lady eh?

I think mumsnet hq have got the balance absolutely right so good for them.

That's what I found Hatrick

You end up obsessing about one sentence which you think might be THE KEY TO YOUR PROBLEM etc

Agree with WWW and Twig

Moondog - I have no idea tbh. I read books with DD, but not on feeding - for that I pretty much just had Psychomum. For DS I had experience, and MN.

A book on feeding as a whole so there was a chapter on breast, one on bottle, one on spoons, one on blw etc sounds more sense, but tbh I think they could probably be incorporated into baby and toddler books.

Having said all that, I have never read an MN book so I don't really know what they are like!

I'm not sure I like the idea of merging breastfeeding and bottle feeding

Just because you might get people finding breastfeeding too much hard work and NEXT CHAPTER BOTTLE FEEDING would sort of be a bit too encouraging if you are coming from a position of ignorance

(I don't mean to offend anyone)

from the baby milk blog

'It will be a very pleasant social occasion as well as giving you the opportunity to get to know Nestlé, its work and its programme of corporate social responsibility in some detail.' by the lovely dr mimsy stoppard

oh yes,. well known social responsibility in the 3rd world

cannot get arsey with MNHQ over this, and i did email re the l'oréal ads....but i can with dr miriam.

nestlé so insidious

I think a breast feeding video would be more helpful than a book, TBH.

Sorry - no idea why I called you moondog MP

I can see your point, but I just feel you can't have a book from a parenting site that covers just one area of feeding.

I think Mumsnet are doing far more than other sites in terms of vetoing certain manufacturers. It's brilliant.

Perhaps we as Mumsnetters could get together under an write to Ms. Miriam Stoppard questioning her motives?

I think the issue with a bf book is that much of the advice in the most popular baby care books is terrible tbh imo.
a mumsnet bf book (leaflet?) with real advice from real people would be very useful imo
online advice v useful too
a video vvv useful
constant reminders to women they must be "discreet" = not v useful

Sorry - no idea why I called you moondog MP

we do both hate Cheesestrings

How can you not love the rubbery processed crap goodness of a cheesestring??? (Tis still Flame btw)

(Whenever I read your name I just remember your fabulous legs!)

I don't know why people think I've got fabulous legs, I'm sure this isn't true at all

I just wear ENORMOUS HEELS which overall reduces my BMI by about 5 points

good god, MN can't do anything right can they

not everyone is against Nestle
not everyone is into reading about breastfeeding
not everyone is bothered about formula advertising

I could go on

this site is for 1000's of people, not a select few who feel they can decree how everyone else should think or feel

harrumph

I was saying to CSWS a while back that my main memory of you from Xmas was showing me your legs, and she said "Erm... i think she was actually showing you her shoes"

Not that any of this is relevant to nestle or breast books.

Booklet sounds better imo

Well OBVIOUSLY

WHy would I be going around showing people my LEGS?????????????????!!!!!

Particularly as I wasn't wearing any knickers

I agree 100% olive.

lol at mp showing people her legs
you great big tart mp

I think MN have the balance right.

and I welcome the chance to slag off miriam Stoppard, am deeply shocked tht she has decided to sup with the devil. I think we can have a thread inviting everyone to sign in and condemn her every day, as long as the ad is running so that she gets the message.

Re breastfeeding books, yes I found them immensely helpful. Not least because although I was a first time mother, I instantly recognised that the advice I was being given was crap, so it was a forewarned is forearmed - without the books, I would have taken the advice of ill-informed midwives, and my breastfeeding would have been sabotaged.

I have to share this with you :

"Dr Miriam Stoppard's New Baby Care Book
a practical guide to the first three years
published 1990, reprinted 1998

Backward Babies

Babies develop at all speeds from very fast to very slow and it can be difficult to distinguish normal slowness from backwardness. If you feel that your baby is not really keeping up with the general social milestone, consult your doctor. However minor defects may not show up for several months, so follow your instincts if you suspect that your baby is not developing quite normally and seek early help. The earlier you get help the greater chance you have of dealing with the abnormality, and preventing the baby, the family, you and your partner from suffering unecessarily.

If in addition to being socially backward, your baby's physical development is abnormal, then the burden of looking after the child can be a great strain. In reality the parents have to continue to look after such a child like a newborn baby, seeing to its every need. This can result in a deteriorating atmosphere within the home, and in such cases you must seek help. It's often comforting, as well as actively helpful, to talk to people in similar situations so check your local directories for groups as well as contacting any relevant national agencies"

I cant tell you how unhelpful this was to me when dd was born in 1999 and did not develop normally. Infact it has made me quite angry to type it out now

wear ginormous heels to reduce my BMI

geeeeeeeeenious MP .. pure scintillating geeeeeeeeeeenious

and that was the only thing in the whole book on 'special needs'

Blimey.

I had always thought Miriam Stoppard was an expert.

LittleBella, which breastfeeding books were the best?