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MN needs a closer watch of FWR

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BodegaSushi · 30/06/2023 12:59

There is a concerning growth of posts with racist undertones cropping up on these boards, all under the guise of being proudly 'anti-woke'.

Apparently diversity is 'woke' and worthy of derision.

This is the thread I'm referring to here.

Disney went woke now they're going broke www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4836570-disney-went-woke-now-theyre-going-broke

Mumsnet needs to looks at why that board draws such types of posts, and why posters feel so comfortable openly airing their racism.

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Britinme · 02/07/2023 15:18

So the one making blanket accusations doesn't need evidence. Figures.

Tallisker · 02/07/2023 15:19

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ArabeIIaScott · 02/07/2023 15:21

Well, I for one welcome the suggestion that FWR should be closely watched.

It's always good to get new people on the board.

Or was it more like a kind of approval monitoring, with the occasional struggle session that OP and others had envisaged? I think we already have that, tbh. Is not harsh enough?

Perhaps FWR posters should be tagged and submit requests for approval before posting?

Is there a list of accepted words and political positions women are to take in general, or will OP and others be satisfied to just decide on a case by case basis which posters are permitted and which are to be silenced and unpersonned?

Do look forward to hearing more of OP's modest proposals.

ArabeIIaScott · 02/07/2023 15:23

Also curiosity is peaked by mention of parsnips.

lifeturnsonadime · 02/07/2023 15:23

BelleHathor · 02/07/2023 14:42

As a Black Woman, It's bloody disrespectful and extremely racist. The thing is most FWR posters will call it out, for which I'm thankful.

The idea that these so called activists could appropriate the atrocities of slavery and colonialism as some kind of gotcha is racist supremacy. Imagine sayinf a Black woman is the same as someone who "identifies" as a woman. It's dehumanising.

Flowers , it is awful.

How anyone can try to say that there are significant racist undertones coming from the posters on FWR, who do not believe that men are ever women, when some of these men and their supporters are so overtly and disgustingly racist is beyond me.

I would hope that some of the posters on this thread who are berating the women of FWR based on the racism of a minority (which is always called out), also say that the racism seen by some TRAs is vile & unacceptable.

Either way it is beyond hypocritical to say that racist TRAs don't speak for them whilst blaming every woman of FWR for the opinions of a vanishing minority of posters who are called out where it is seen.

No groups are hive minds. We all have different backgrounds and opinions but I do not accept the premise of this thread that FWR is homophobic and racist and deserves to be 'closely looked at'. That's just a thinly veiled attempt to shut us up about the issue that the board is set up to discuss.

ArabeIIaScott · 02/07/2023 15:24

*piqued

CheekyHusky · 02/07/2023 15:25

KarensManager · 01/07/2023 10:32

I think using woke as a pejorative should be banned on MN just as Karen is. That would reduce their subtle racist vocabulary and rhetoric. So they can come right out and say what they hate, which is seeing black faces in a film about mythical creatures, etc.

Agreed

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 15:31

I'm not sure who Karen is as I'm KarensManager but you knew rhat. I see what you did there. Clever you.

'Shouty'? Another tag-team shift has landed. I know it would become a slur if said to a regular FWR poster. A woman is now shouty for responding to all the posts aimed at me, claiming things I didn't do? I'm the shouty one? Wheres the evidence of this accusation?

When there's a now deleted post with personal attack towards me, I'm the one who isn't quite well?

This it yet another evidence of being insulted once there's nothing to be said and you're going against the team. Well the hypocrisy keeps on coming. Thanks for calling me shouty and insinuating that I'm mentally "not well" because I dare to question a post, and not lie down and take false accusations. @Tallisker

midgetastic · 02/07/2023 15:32

ArabeIIaScott · 02/07/2023 15:23

Also curiosity is peaked by mention of parsnips.

I don't much like parsnips

Turnips however

Tallisker · 02/07/2023 15:39

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KarensManager · 02/07/2023 15:40

Britinme · 02/07/2023 15:18

So the one making blanket accusations doesn't need evidence. Figures.

If this is aimed at me, you know it doesn't make sense, right?

If not, never mind.

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 15:42

Lol at the faux concern laced with personal attacks and name calling. I'm good, thanks.

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 15:45

I have yet to return the insults, abuse and namecalling but sure I'm the unpleasant and rude one. Bizarre to see such clear obfuscation of what is right there to see.

ArabeIIaScott · 02/07/2023 15:45

On a Sunday a young woman's fancy lightly turns to thoughts of dinner, midgetastic.

AlisonDonut · 02/07/2023 15:54

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 15:45

I have yet to return the insults, abuse and namecalling but sure I'm the unpleasant and rude one. Bizarre to see such clear obfuscation of what is right there to see.

Did you report the post that asked if you were ok?

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 15:56

Sure that's what the post said.

BelleHathor · 02/07/2023 15:57

lifeturnsonadime · 02/07/2023 15:23

Flowers , it is awful.

How anyone can try to say that there are significant racist undertones coming from the posters on FWR, who do not believe that men are ever women, when some of these men and their supporters are so overtly and disgustingly racist is beyond me.

I would hope that some of the posters on this thread who are berating the women of FWR based on the racism of a minority (which is always called out), also say that the racism seen by some TRAs is vile & unacceptable.

Either way it is beyond hypocritical to say that racist TRAs don't speak for them whilst blaming every woman of FWR for the opinions of a vanishing minority of posters who are called out where it is seen.

No groups are hive minds. We all have different backgrounds and opinions but I do not accept the premise of this thread that FWR is homophobic and racist and deserves to be 'closely looked at'. That's just a thinly veiled attempt to shut us up about the issue that the board is set up to discuss.

Exactly and that's what I love about FWR, that we are unapologetically female, fierce and diverse. That we disagree, but then discuss and there is no Hive mind (one of the only boards on Mumsnet).

This idea that because we are women we should just shut up and be quiet is nonsense and those trying to use "race" or human trafficking as gotchas are just trying to emotionally manipulate people. There have been threads supporting the Uighur women, Epsteins victims, the Virginia School girl who sexually assaulted in her gender school toilet etc.

Britinme · 02/07/2023 15:59

Well said @BelleHathor

AlisonDonut · 02/07/2023 15:59

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 15:56

Sure that's what the post said.

Did you report the post?

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 16:00

What post?

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 16:01

I didn't report a 'post that asked if I was okay', if that's your question.

I know none of the posts deleted said that.

AlisonDonut · 02/07/2023 16:01

The post that you referred to as being deleted that was asking you if you were ok. You know what post. Did you report it?

FishTrashGlove · 02/07/2023 16:02

I see the vegetablers have arrived to attempt to deflect opprobrium from other quarters. Just know that your hateful parsnip opinions have been noted and logged on the Spreadsheet Of Bad 'Uns.

Yours,
Turnip Squad

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2023 16:04

were actively homophobic in the way they explicitly dissociated themselves from gay men - because they thought it would make them look bad to be thought of in the same bracket.

FTM TRA Fox Fisher said exactly the same thing in a video for Mermaids about a decade ago.

KarensManager · 02/07/2023 16:05

Firstly I don't know why you think you can demand an answer from me. I thought I was the one doing that.

Secondly, until you tell the truth about what a post said, I have no idea which post you're asking about. I have given a direct answer to your direct question (based on a deliberately false premise). What else do you want from me?

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