Moderation Sex Board

[onirgellep]

Back in February Justine* committed to an urgent review of moderation of the Sex Board subsequent to the considerable concerns mainly arising from the longstanding Sex Chat thread

Unsurprisingly, issues continue

Would it be possible to have an update on the progress of the review?

And hear when do you anticipate it being completed and the new moderation put into action?

Thank you

I'm afraid I'm unable to link Justine's post on the thread References to Underage Sex on the Sex Board* page 13

Exactly.
It's mumsnet decision if it needs more moderation and they'll implement it if needed.

Obviously but if you report someone and then you see them posting under the same name you obviously know they are not banned 🙄

That's not the point I made.

I made the point that I wouldn't know who is banned.

You've twisted what I said.

You have twisted what I said.

I said we don't know who has been banned.

You've countered with we know who hasn't been banned.

That's not the same thing.

I'm confused.
You said you and anybody else wouldn't know if a poster got banned.
I said you would know if they continued to post on mumsnet. You would know they didn't get banned.
What am I twisting?

The problem is every time a certain group find something objectionable on the sex board they start a thread here about it instead of just reporting.

A thread was put up on the Sex Board with a link
Firstly some objected it was a hook up thread in disguise and attacked the OP on an existing Site Stuff thread.

Then objections to other content on the site in the link we're raised (understandably) and the OP apologised and reported the thread for deletion.

The group continued to attack the OP until MNHQ deleted the Site Stuff thread.

Very shortly after another Site Stuff thread was started asking whether the OP of the Sex Board thread would/should be banned. MNHQ swiftly deleted this thread.

Now another (this) Site Stuff thread has been started to demand enhanced moderation for the Sex Board despite the original thread complained about (how many threads ago?) being swiftly taken down for review then deleted showing that post moderation is working as it does for the whole of MN.

3 seperate Site Stuff threads, 2 of which having already been deleted because of 1 thread that was swiftly removed.

Yes it sounds like a vendetta

It's not the same thing but it's not twisting your words is it?!!
Have I said you were saying something you weren't?
Why the fuck does this non issue even matter?! 🤣

I really don't know how else to explain it

The group continued to attack the OP

That is nonsense.

This thread is about moderation on the sex board. Not one specific poster.

I think mumsnet are to blame for this, for creating a space where someone not only thought it was acceptable to link to NSFW content like that but was under the impression it was a positive, helpful thing to do. It's not like a troll posting a link on chat, it was a long term poster who was actively involved in the last discussions on this and they still came away with that impression. It's a pretty big misunderstanding and indicates that mumsnet weren't at all clear about what is and isn't acceptable to post on a parenting website.

Knowing that a poster has NOT been banned is not the same as knowing if a poster HAS been banned. That is the nature of this site. There is no announcement that someone has been banned, is there?
Even if they are, their posts remain.

Exactly.

Then why do you think 2 Site Stuff threads have already been deleted? Especially the one asking for the OP to be banned and if not why not?

It wasn't derailed, it was simply against MN guidelines because it was the continuation of a personal attack, reported and swiftly deleted as such by HQ

This thread is not attacking one particular poster.

If you have an issue with that, I would politely suggest that you take that up with MNHQ.

Now let's see an end to the vendetta please.
It's partly an issue that some people seem to have with male posters on the Sex Topic threads (but more generally on MN) and partly with the hatred that these same people have for one particular female poster, who does not have such a problem with them. Hence, she is frequently the subject of abuse and bullying on here and elsewhere - and repeated attempts to get her removed from the site - while the men are usually dismissed simply as pervs. Fortunately, HQ are tuned in to this nasty little game and allow the bullies only so much rope before they rein them in. Or simply delete threads when they get completely out of hand - as the recent examples on Site Stuff demonstrate. All rather unpleasant really.

So says everywhichway, the man who strongly objected to the first Sex Chat/Hook Up thread being deleted and then started his own.

If you don't like it don't read it 🤷‍♀️
Some people just hunt for things to moan about!

Deletion message from second site stuff thread last night

Hi all,
Unfortunately this did become a TAAT but we do welcome your thoughts and would be happy to have more of a chat about this off-board with the OP.

I understand that but the evidence raised that something needs to be done is 3 now deleted threads.

1 that was deleted from the Sex Board.

1 that complained about the deleted thread and attacking the Sex Board OP in an existing Site Stuff thread.

1 in Site Stuff asking for the Sex Board OP to be banned

And now here we are...

Then objections to other content on the site in the link we're raised (understandably) and the OP apologised and reported the thread for deletion.

One of her responses when confronted with the information was ‘I didn’t know it contained incest or teen sex. But monster sex sounds fun’ Possibly with a laughing emoji. That’s not a responsible persons reply to finding out that a link they posted contained what it did. Would that be a response you would make?

Only when it became clear that people were disgusted at teen sex and incest did she announce she had reported herself.

Very shortly after another Site Stuff thread was started asking whether the OP of the Sex Board thread would/should be banned. MNHQ swiftly deleted this thread.

Thats not true. A poster asked whether links to those sites were allowed as the deletion message from the thread with the link didn’t say this was the reason for deletion. It said ‘looking into background of posters’ not ‘the link was unacceptable’. They were rightly confused about what is allowed and what isn’t so asked for clarity. They asked how posters who posted that sort of content would be dealt with, was it like any other link, or would it be dealt with more harshly due to it being incest and teen sex on a parenting board. They didn’t ask if the poster would be banned.

It seems various attempts are being made to derail this thread so that it will be deleted too.

Posters wanted it deleted and they know how to do that. There is also a thread about this deliberate de railing of threads on site stuff. Mumsnet need to get on top of it. The sex people want all discussion shut down.

They were rightly confused about what is allowed and what isn’t so asked for clarity

This, 100%.
Countless threads on this subject, derailed deliberately, so that they are inevitably deleted.
I am losing patience with MNHQ's woolly ideas on moderation.

Clarity would be more than acceptable; it would be welcomed.

I am going to ignore comments that are insisting that this thread is a vendetta as I don't think that it is and if I respond to those comments then I will be seen as part of a vendetta. I would suggest others do the same.

@HeartbreakHouse re your post at 14:12 - we discussed this over an hour ago, I apologised. See this is why I feel like people are trying to victimise me!