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Moderation Sex Board

619 replies

onirgellep · 13/04/2023 23:06

Back in February Justine* committed to an urgent review of moderation of the Sex Board subsequent to the considerable concerns mainly arising from the longstanding Sex Chat thread

Unsurprisingly, issues continue

Would it be possible to have an update on the progress of the review?

And hear when do you anticipate it being completed and the new moderation put into action?

Thank you

I'm afraid I'm unable to link Justine's post on the thread References to Underage Sex on the Sex Board* page 13

OP posts:
horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 18:47

LangClegsInSpace · 14/04/2023 18:45

To reduce that to people wanking with strangers sounds very judgemental to my ears

I'm cool with that.

Also cool with that.

horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 18:49

Clearly mumsnet don't want to host those sort of chats and pms.

So I'm also cool with where my personal standards are.

Any one who wants to engage in that sort of chat is able to do so in any one of a plethora of flirty saucy sex chat websites.

Surplus2requirements · 14/04/2023 18:53

horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 18:44

Flirting, and saucy are all euphemisms for sex related talk and behaviour.

Yes of course but I'm sure there's times youve indulged in a little flirting without having to masturbate.

There seems to be a desire to reduce everything on the sex board to the lowest common denominator and then judge it

Surplus2requirements · 14/04/2023 18:56

horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 18:49

Clearly mumsnet don't want to host those sort of chats and pms.

So I'm also cool with where my personal standards are.

Any one who wants to engage in that sort of chat is able to do so in any one of a plethora of flirty saucy sex chat websites.

I agree

horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 18:56

I don't flirt with anyone I'm not sexually interested in and I never have.

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 18:56

Clearly mumsnet don't want to host those sort of chats and pms.

ANYMORE

Let's not forget people were told by mumsnet at the time that they didn't have a problem with sex chat between adults including a wink wink 🍆 emoji. It went on for over 6 months with approval from mumsnet.

Then they put sex topic in active and people kicked off about the thread so mumsnet back tracked on it and changed their stance.

That also adds to the issue because people were told it was ok. Others then kicked off and so it got banned.

TheShellBeach · 14/04/2023 18:57

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 18:56

Clearly mumsnet don't want to host those sort of chats and pms.

ANYMORE

Let's not forget people were told by mumsnet at the time that they didn't have a problem with sex chat between adults including a wink wink 🍆 emoji. It went on for over 6 months with approval from mumsnet.

Then they put sex topic in active and people kicked off about the thread so mumsnet back tracked on it and changed their stance.

That also adds to the issue because people were told it was ok. Others then kicked off and so it got banned.

Why do you think the sex chat thread was banned?
Were you disappointed when it was?

DrunkOnLove · 14/04/2023 18:57

horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 18:49

Clearly mumsnet don't want to host those sort of chats and pms.

So I'm also cool with where my personal standards are.

Any one who wants to engage in that sort of chat is able to do so in any one of a plethora of flirty saucy sex chat websites.

I think it’s part of the fun for them. Plonking themselves gown in the middle of a parenting site mainly used by women. Mumsnet letting them, knowing women are uncomfortable. the overshadow g some of them over there fo is also a fetish in itself.

horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 18:57

Mumsnet have made a decision not to host that sort of chat anymore

Other websites are readily available, I'm sure, where anyone who wishes to indulge in such activities can carry on to their hearts' content.

DrunkOnLove · 14/04/2023 18:58

down

DrunkOnLove · 14/04/2023 18:59

Rewriting my last post due to typos

I think it’s part of the fun for them. Plonking themselves DOWN in the middle of a parenting site mainly used by women. Mumsnet letting them, knowing women are uncomfortable, the OVERSHARING some of them over there DO is also a fetish in itself.

everywhichway · 14/04/2023 18:59

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 18:56

Clearly mumsnet don't want to host those sort of chats and pms.

ANYMORE

Let's not forget people were told by mumsnet at the time that they didn't have a problem with sex chat between adults including a wink wink 🍆 emoji. It went on for over 6 months with approval from mumsnet.

Then they put sex topic in active and people kicked off about the thread so mumsnet back tracked on it and changed their stance.

That also adds to the issue because people were told it was ok. Others then kicked off and so it got banned.

The original sexchat thread went on for several months before that with approval from MN too...

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 19:00

TheShellBeach · 14/04/2023 18:57

Why do you think the sex chat thread was banned?
Were you disappointed when it was?

I know why it was banned.
We all do.
Because people kicked off about it and demanded mumsnet ban it, which they eventually did.

LangClegsInSpace · 14/04/2023 19:01

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 18:56

Clearly mumsnet don't want to host those sort of chats and pms.

ANYMORE

Let's not forget people were told by mumsnet at the time that they didn't have a problem with sex chat between adults including a wink wink 🍆 emoji. It went on for over 6 months with approval from mumsnet.

Then they put sex topic in active and people kicked off about the thread so mumsnet back tracked on it and changed their stance.

That also adds to the issue because people were told it was ok. Others then kicked off and so it got banned.

Yes, this is accurate.

MN originally encouraged this kind of content and have handled all this very badly.

TheShellBeach · 14/04/2023 19:01

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 19:00

I know why it was banned.
We all do.
Because people kicked off about it and demanded mumsnet ban it, which they eventually did.

And what reasons did MNHQ have for banning the sex chat thread?

TheShellBeach · 14/04/2023 19:03

After all, people could demand that the gardening board be deleted but I do not think MNHQ would pay any attention to that.

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 19:06

TheShellBeach · 14/04/2023 19:03

After all, people could demand that the gardening board be deleted but I do not think MNHQ would pay any attention to that.

Tbh they probably would if you made enough of a fuss about it as you did the sex topic/sex chat thread! 🤣

DrunkOnLove · 14/04/2023 19:07

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 19:00

I know why it was banned.
We all do.
Because people kicked off about it and demanded mumsnet ban it, which they eventually did.

Good. They listened to what posters wanted. They do welcome feedback from posters. They were given it, listened and decided that they had been wrong allowing it. It’s hardly surprising that people. ‘kicked off’, this is a parenting site. 🤣

Also, when the hook up thread was shut down, there was talk on another thread, asking if anyone knew where you lot could all go, an alternative site, to keep the hook up thread going. Amazingly, posters were having trouble finding somewhere willing to host a free hook up chat thread. Why do you think that was? 😂😂😂 And of nowhere else wanted it, why do you think mumsnet would? 😂😂😂

horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 19:07

@HornyBee what is so funny about this discussion? I really don't understand and I'd be grateful if you could explain (genuine question - I'm autistic and I think there's something I'm missing).

TheShellBeach · 14/04/2023 19:09

horridjobescapee · 14/04/2023 19:07

@HornyBee what is so funny about this discussion? I really don't understand and I'd be grateful if you could explain (genuine question - I'm autistic and I think there's something I'm missing).

So am I, and I am having trouble trying to understand the laughing emoji there.

DrunkOnLove · 14/04/2023 19:13

HornyBee · 14/04/2023 19:06

Tbh they probably would if you made enough of a fuss about it as you did the sex topic/sex chat thread! 🤣

Fuss? Yes, we will continue to make a fuss about inappropriate threads. They’re not wanted here. I’ll keep saying it every single time and I’m sure others too.

LangClegsInSpace · 14/04/2023 19:14

mathanxiety · 14/04/2023 17:43

Loving the attempts at scathing ridicule here.

Your post speaks volumes about the "Fuck MN and especially Fuck women and their concerns" attitude MNHQ have invited aboard.

Yes, the complete disregard and contempt for the rest of MN - a parenting forum and a rare, female dominated space on the internet - is glaring.

BenCoopersSupportWren · 14/04/2023 19:18

One of the reasons it would be better to have different, more stringent moderation rules for the Sex board is to protect Mumsnet itself, as the legal entity. It is part of the registration T&Cs that MN own the copyright for anything posted here. If posts or links pertaining to illegal or illicit material are allowed to stand here, there is a risk that MN itself could be held liable of hosting inappropriate material, with all the consequences that flow from that. (I did try to explain some of those risk in the “References to Underaged Sex” thread of which I was the OP, but I’m not sure Justine / MNHQ quite fully grasped the potential extent of their legal liability.)

Of course people / trolls can post links to pornography or similar anywhere on the site, but the nature of the Sex board means it’s more likely something may be posted in good faith by a regular poster - as appears to have been the case here - so it is an occupational hazard arising from the board content.

There is a precedent for different standards of moderation in different parts of the site: we woman of FWR are subjected to tighter controls over the language we can use in our posts than posters elsewhere, including the bear pit of AIBU, and there is a “three strikes and you’re out” banning mechanism in operation there, i.e. if you transgress the special (and somewhat opaque) FWR TG three times within a certain rolling period, you’re banned. I don’t see why a similar policy can’t apply to the Sex Board for anyone who repeatedly tries to get round the “no hook up threads” rules or who persists in posting NSFW links?

I will continue to advocate for tighter registrations to be able to post on the Sex board and for proactive moderation to weed out the creeps, perves and trolls before any damage is done to those who might be triggered by particularly inappropriate posts referring to illegal practices (e.g. CSA, rape, incest etc). I’m no prude, I have used other sex-based sites to enjoy written erotica on a range of sexual topics, and one of the reasons I would continue to use them over MN’s Sex board is precisely because they take their duties as a host of NSFW material much more seriously than is the case here. Strong moderation gives the users of such boards a certain level of protection and security in a variety of ways and should be welcomed by anyone who can see the inherent risks in playing fast and loose with adult-themed material, not resisted.

Surplus2requirements · 14/04/2023 19:20

TheShellBeach · 14/04/2023 19:09

So am I, and I am having trouble trying to understand the laughing emoji there.

You're gonna hate @DrunkOnLove 's post then

LangClegsInSpace · 14/04/2023 19:20

BenCoopersSupportWren · 14/04/2023 19:18

One of the reasons it would be better to have different, more stringent moderation rules for the Sex board is to protect Mumsnet itself, as the legal entity. It is part of the registration T&Cs that MN own the copyright for anything posted here. If posts or links pertaining to illegal or illicit material are allowed to stand here, there is a risk that MN itself could be held liable of hosting inappropriate material, with all the consequences that flow from that. (I did try to explain some of those risk in the “References to Underaged Sex” thread of which I was the OP, but I’m not sure Justine / MNHQ quite fully grasped the potential extent of their legal liability.)

Of course people / trolls can post links to pornography or similar anywhere on the site, but the nature of the Sex board means it’s more likely something may be posted in good faith by a regular poster - as appears to have been the case here - so it is an occupational hazard arising from the board content.

There is a precedent for different standards of moderation in different parts of the site: we woman of FWR are subjected to tighter controls over the language we can use in our posts than posters elsewhere, including the bear pit of AIBU, and there is a “three strikes and you’re out” banning mechanism in operation there, i.e. if you transgress the special (and somewhat opaque) FWR TG three times within a certain rolling period, you’re banned. I don’t see why a similar policy can’t apply to the Sex Board for anyone who repeatedly tries to get round the “no hook up threads” rules or who persists in posting NSFW links?

I will continue to advocate for tighter registrations to be able to post on the Sex board and for proactive moderation to weed out the creeps, perves and trolls before any damage is done to those who might be triggered by particularly inappropriate posts referring to illegal practices (e.g. CSA, rape, incest etc). I’m no prude, I have used other sex-based sites to enjoy written erotica on a range of sexual topics, and one of the reasons I would continue to use them over MN’s Sex board is precisely because they take their duties as a host of NSFW material much more seriously than is the case here. Strong moderation gives the users of such boards a certain level of protection and security in a variety of ways and should be welcomed by anyone who can see the inherent risks in playing fast and loose with adult-themed material, not resisted.

Excellent post.

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