Why are you allowing people to troll the Sex Board?

[HornyBee]

If it was any other board you wouldn't allow it.
If I went on another board and started posting recipes and taking the piss out of the posters I'd quickly be banned.
It is flooded with people trolling it.
Every single thread.
It's really horrible.
Take it off active or just shut the whole board down.
It's disgusting.

Which is why I want MNHQ to do something. I've said nothing about individual posters apart from one who called objectors prudish.

Your user name tells me a lot about you.

Also @everywhichway Am I correct that the first thread may indeed have been started by a person stating they were a woman, but you have stated you are a man?

Beautifully articulated @ShowOfHands.

Some of the key MNHQ messages from that thread. To save people scrolling.

And here we are with hook up threads in active.

It wasn’t just 2010. MNHQ were fighting the idea of a designated sex board on the same grounds for years after, too. Then it became a restricted view 90 day registration posters only area. Now MNHQ have got a dildo to sell, so this market is their audience and surprise, surprise they’re now front and centre, in active. As the old adage goes, “Sex sells” and MNHQ are buying into it, to hell with any ethical issues.

I honestly never thought MN would become the place to go for Colin seeking horny housewife looking for no strings attached fun and yet here we are.

In 2012 MNHQ said it would be a pervy troll magnet “… We have absolutely no problem with discussions about sex (unless they're pervy to the point of true obscenity) but we do think a Sex topic would be a troll magnet.

And we simply don't have enough gin to cope with that.”

(www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/1593235-So-I-was-wondering-A-sex-topic?reply=34913031)

The sex topic arrived in summer 2015, in 2014 MNHQ still took the view that, “We do have a problem with heavy-breathers turning up purely to elicit sexual stories, of course. When these people are reported to us with deal with 'em.”, though they were seemingly becoming more open to the idea of a separate topic.

(www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/1593235-So-I-was-wondering-A-sex-topic?page=2&reply=35041353)

There will be people only visiting the sex board on MN, the disproportionate male:female ratio tells us that (especially on the sex chat thread). So why aren’t these treated as those turning up purely to elicit sexual stories, I wonder?

apologies, that second link should’ve been
www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/2082521-Do-you-think-its-time-to-reconsider-a-sex-topic?page=4&reply=47105108

The whole board is not in the spirit of the site and changing its character

Got lost down a rabbit hole from that link @ShowOfHands - sad to see names of those no longer with us

... but also how much more lighthearted things were, and how frequently the mods (and Justine) would come and chat on threads.

It physically hurt seeing BoF's name 😞 Good God I miss her.

And Helen and Gerry and even Justine were bloody lovely and funny and came and spoke to us, had a larf, listened. Tech used to lumber out of his shed wit' big 'ammer. No idea who's who now.

Maybe it's all just different now and MN is a brothel above a chippy and some of us just wanted a fish supper but can't avoid the bloke in the corner who wants a finger up his bum and a battered sausage.

This personal attack is possibly the funniest thing I've read on the Internet in a long time 🤣🤣🤣

The username I chose for when posting on a sex topic includes the word... wait for it... gasp, shock, horror... HORNY😱
Totally busted 🙈!!!
So now you have me allllll figured out! 🤣

Why are you trying to get a rise out of me? Why are you making a personal attack against me? What have I done? Apart from report all your trolling posts...??

I didn't put the sex topic in active.
I didn't allow a thread where people can message each other to chat about sex.
I haven't broken any MN guidelines.
I genuinely don't understand what I've done wrong?!!!

Hear hear Showy

"It isn't just a sex topic though is it?"

Uh..yes it is. You're referring to 1 thread on the whole of the sex board.

It looks like there's been a policy change at MNHQ and I suspect there is no point haranguing the mods about this. I'm sure it's outside their remit and the longstanding mods are probably as appalled as we are.

@JustineMumsnet why is MN seemingly hell-bent on attracting porn-soaked inadequate men to the site with the prospect of sex chats and hook ups? This is bleeding into other areas of the site now, with mansplainers and perverts poping up (so to speak!) everywhere. This is a huge departure from what was always The Spirit of Mumsnet.

... and it's that one thread that people are objecting to. You're being a bit obtuse if you don't appreciate that.

The idea of having a topic specifically for women to discuss issues they might have about sex is fine. There are lots of reasons why MNetters might want to do this, ranging from specific problems (during pregnancy, after birth, during menopause, with partners who have different libidos, etc) to enjoyment of sex and different ways of enjoying sex. I don't think any of us have a problem with that.)

What we have a problem with - and I realise I'm risking assuming that I'm speaking for everyone - is the hook-up thread that is Sex Chat. I don't think anyone envisaged, or hoped, that this kind of thread would end up on Mumsnet.

I can totally understand that someone like you @HornyBee (and the other posters on that thread) might want to tout for sexual encounters. But why on Mumsnet? Why not go on the multitude of other adult sites that exist for that very purpose?

On a site that has a huge topic aimed at helping women with relationships with their partners, where so many are subject to cheating and/or abuse (of any kind) - having this kind of thread really doesn't sit well.

There are loads of places on the internet where you can arrange hook-ups for sex or sex chat. So why Mumsnet? And, more interestingly, why are so many men posting there?

@BIWI that isn’t the case at all. Posters have taken great offence at most of the topics on the sex board actually!!

What people have taken offence at @Mermaidparades is the sex topic appearing in Active. Not the actual threads themselves.

People don't want to read those thread titles in their Active convo list.

There is a big difference. So when the sex topic was hidden, and didn't appear in Active convos, all was fine.

But the sex chat thread is clearly not fine. And not what has been expected!

I've taken offence at some of the thread titles in Active without even a NSFW tag. And the sex topic in general being used by some men as wank fodder. All things MN wouldn't have allowed before. So maybe Justine could pop on when she has a minute to explain what has changed.

@Mermaidparades you have totally ignored the rest of my post, which was about why MNetters might actually want a sex topic.

@BIWI I agree with your reasons for having a Sex topic

There are loads of places on the internet where you can arrange hook-ups for sex or sex chat. So why Mumsnet? And, more interestingly, why are so many men posting there?

I'm assuming because it looks innocent to partners of these people. I'm sure if it gets out that Mumsnet is a place to hook up for sex, we'll find a slew of deactivated accounts, a slew of men coming to take a look and try their hand and a knock on of innocent people being questioned to why they're on a forum where people hook up for sex.

"What people have taken offence at is the sex topic appearing in Active. Not the actual threads themselves."

This is not true i'm afraid. You don't speak for everyone. There were some vile things posted on the threads on the sex board that showed they very much had a problem with the actual threads (and I'm not talking about the sex chat one) Calling posters disgusting, perverts, vomit emojis when they had just gone on there to ask a question/advise about something sex related.