Royal section full of hatred

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@MNHQ - almost the entire Royal section is becoming the equivalent of the Daily Mail comments section with so much bile and hate for M&H. I found the thread about her wedding dress particularly vindicative and nasty to read.

I'm all for free speech, but where does the line become crossed into targeted attack / hate? I think we're getting pretty close to be honest.

Yes I know I can hide the section - but that misses the point - the frenzy is still going on there. How can we (you, @MNHQ) work to tone down the temperature?

@DerangedViper Username checks out.

The other poster- it's ageism to say that you think people should have learned to behave better by now?

Not really. Threads about the McCann's get pulled every time because they're apparently 'not in the spirit of the site'. They aren't the only ones either.

For example.....?

So in other words @Xaviera the threads left to stand in the royal family section are obviously fine

No, I don't think they are because there are double standards about the whole thing.

Wasn't a thread about Leonardo Di Caprio even pulled for not being in the spirit?

I think there are so many different threads just because readers pick out the stuff that grates on them most. This might not be the same for everyone, but everyone is entitled to say their piece.

Now let me see if I’ve understood you correctly - middle aged posters are patently the ones who post things about H&M that you feel are vile and vitriolic (but you haven’t reported these posts) and you feel that because they are middle aged and have (gasp) children they shouldn’t post in a way you don’t like. The only other age category who say these sort of things that you don’t like are teenagers. Both age groups are therefore akin to conspiracy theorists.

Well, if that’s your truth then you’re fully entitled to say it, even if it’s not based on actual fact. I’m seeing a link here…

Well I suggest you get in touch with Mumsnet HQ then

@JaneJeffer why? It's their website and they get to choose what stays and what goes.

I'm far more concerned about the nasty comments about autistic people that get left on
here. But tbf, I think they have been making more of an effort to address that.

Has it gone? Again?

@SirChenjins You seem to be twisting yourself in knots to make it seem that 'I wish people wouldn't be so mean' is a bad thing to say, or judgemental on my part...the irony.

Yes, I feel that teenagers can be mean and lack empathy, but usually grow out of it, conspiracy theorists can be mean but they probably have MH issues causing that.

I don't feel it's acceptable for middle aged people to be mean - they should be providing an example for the kids, for one thing. Most don't want to be. Others seem to get some kind of pleasure out of it.

No knots, just a summary of your nonsensical post.

If only the middle aged people with kids (no-one else) who are being mean about H&M would stop so that their posts would be acceptable to NeuroWasabi .

Tbh even my kids are finding the stories ludicrous and hilarious. I was lying in bed last night and through the alexa heard “I’m touching my Willy and thinking of you mummy”. 😂 When an 11 year old knows that’s a barmy thing to say… well yeh, am gonna laugh.

@SirChenjins Again you seem to be attempting to misrepresent what I wrote. My words are there for all to see. Why are you rewording what I wrote to change the meaning?

Yes, absolutely - your words are there for everyone to see. That's us middle aged people with kids and teenagers told - now what about those posters who aren't teenagers, aren't conspiracy theorists and aren't middle aged with kids - is it OK if they post things you don't like about H&M? I'm very curious as to why you homed in on those age groups specifically.

@SirChenjins I 'honed in' on the demographic Mumsnet serves...the people making the horrid comments, as you surely know, because you must have read my comment?! I'm not sure why you're being antagonistic.

Please, somebody tell me there's a mute function on this app somewhere!

Do you not think that it's bullying to write a book in which you reproduce, word for word, private conversations that you say your relatives have had?

If somebody did that to your sister or mother, say in a work or hobby context, would you not feel worried for you relative's mental health?

Does it not affect you that the Royals are not doing the same back, and giving their self-justification and side of the story - that the harassing and dragging down by Harry is all one-sided?

The NHS might collapse, as we know it. Also, as a result of Harry's public memoirs, so might The Royal Family. If you believe in the democratic checks and balances to power, which are supplied by a constitutional monarchy, that will be worrying to you and worthy of giving your attention.

At lot of people who post feel that they are pushing back against all that Harry is claiming, in order to be fair to the Royals, who are human beings too. It must be very difficult to deal with the shade he is throwing and unkindness, if you are Catherine. We are told that the Royals cannot answer back, due to protocol, and the last 100 years of history have tended to make that claim seem true. So journalists and posters on forums do some of the job of expressing the counter-argument to Harry. They give the sort of fair criticism of a book, which all authors expect.

Harry appears to be driven by a mission. It used to be that he said his new book would one telling the story of the man he has become. Then he says it is his truth about growing up a Royal. And now, according to him, it has a bigger ambition, to reform the Royal Family, for its own good - and the country's and to end the abuse of 'spares'.

This sort of publishing event and the fact Harry left Britain, as he did, is newsworthy and comment- worthy. I do understand, though, that if you are not interested in the Royal Family, the comments might seem too much invested and too interested in things which aren't interesting. It must feel the same as it feels to some people during The World Cup: too much strong feeling and interest about something which doesn't matter.

Oh I know what did@NeuroWasabi Hide the thread if middle aged people (primarily women)with kids saying mean things about H&M upset you.

There’s no way to mute individuals as I’m sure you know, but don’t feel you have to respond to my posts.

I've just remembered that Charles ( I think) then Diana did a tell all interview with the BBC, or did Charles do a newspaper interview, then Diana did her tell all to get her story out. So the Royals have form for this stuff.

I think I'd have been ok with Harry's if he'd given all proceeds to charity.

I think those interviews from Charles and Diana were what strengthened the Queen's resolve to say: 'No more!'. They have always been disasterous..

Yes, they must have this skewed view of their importance in the world - and they paid too much attention to the media. Felt they deserved to be loved by all.

Who would go on the bbc to discuss the problems in their marriage - who would go global with the cruelty of his family and the evil of the media - well I guess someone who makes millions from it. They complain about the media then pander to it.