What is it with all these threads being deleted??

[Lilifer]

Every day now there seems to be a thread deleted on aibu - it's the only section I'm really on, but pretty much every day lately I'll see a thread, read it, then return to it later to get an update and it's been deleted. I've been on Mumsnet since 2009 and threads were rarely deleted until recently , this last year or so it seems to happen so much. Are more people just trying to troll or wind us up, or what's the reason behind this huge increase in deletions?

I mentioned it earlier in the thread that a few people I know on another site from here have had their threads reported and deleted and they weren't able to even defend themselves. At least 4 people apart from me have also said as much, on this very thread, if you had been reading it.

The thing is, MNHQ really don't delete unless there's a good reason. You/your friends/people on this thread may take issue with their decision. But ultimately it's their site and they make judgements based on Talk Guidelines. It's amazing how many people think it's quite OK to post offensive stuff or break Talk Guidelines and then moan about being deleted.

The DAD who won't shower has been deleted now.

*DSD

If you really truly believe MNHQ don't delete unless there is a good reason, you are so incredibly naive. How can you have so much faith in a flawed organisation that relies on dobbers and witch hunts to moderate. There are countless examples of people having their thread deleted and not even been given a chance to defend themselves 'behind the scenes'. You are incredibly naive. It's amazing how much blind faith people have in a proven flawed organisation, despite all the testimony.

Thing is, anyone can say that they were unfairly treated and just because someone says so doesn’t make it true.

After all, if someone can e.g. make up the death of a child then they’re not going to admit it are they?

It’s far more likely that people saying their threads were unfairly removed were trolling than not.

Either way, if you were that pissed off at the site to the extent you believed you were being persecuted, why would you bother to keep coming back unless you weren’t genuine. It’s just a website after all.

Yes, I have.
I'm probably also on the other site you mention.
I'm on a few MN spinoff forums. I don't know anyone on them other than their usernames. They could all be Dave from Burnley wanking in his lorry. You could be. I could be.
Your naivety is touching, but as we say to our kids- the internet can be dangerous and it's probably not to take "words on a page" as verbatim fact.

Several other people have said it. I know 2 of the people. True, genuine people and saw their threads.

Instead of doing mental gymnastics to save yourself from seeing the truth, it is far less likely that all these people are lying, and far more likely that they are speaking the truth. This website is not infallible, and not all of them are liars.

I'm not the one that's naive.

The mental gymnastics displayed here is unbelievable. Anyone and everyone is lying. BUT Mumsnet Mods. They are Infallible.

If you dislike it and distrust it so much here, what are you here for?!

Well I had a thread deleted on here last November and I've been a member on here for 13 years, first time I ever had a thread deleted.

I can't be the only non-troll who has had a thread deleted. In my case someone reported the thread because they took offence at something on it. I got no notification and only discovered it was deleted when I went to check on it.

It seems that if anyone for whatever reason takes offence at a title, post or entire thread they they only have to contact mnhq and the post or thread will be deleted. This is a very subjective thing. If Mumsnet's policy is to avoid any offence being taken by any of its members then it is going to be deleting a hell of a lot of posts and Threads. It certainly seems to be going that way.

The app is showing a lot of threads deleted for me when I click on them at first, but then if I open another and go back, the thread is still there and people are posting on it

I have stuck it out this long because of all the support, info, fun and humour that I get from the site. I probably will leave though because I don't like how proscribed it is becoming. I would prefer to hide threads or ignore them if I'm offended by them rather than report them to MNHQ and have them deleted.

‘They are quite right to delete anything that is racist, sexist, homophobic, ageist, as well as posts by MRA and other activists.’

There is a considerable difference between free speech/expression & speech that contravenes UK law & MN guidelines. For some, there is a wide gaping difference, for some there is an tighter overlap & there is some give/take about giving/taking offence. At times, MN seemingly veers towards overt caution & this can seem like vigorous debate or opinion is cancelled out - which undermines the ‘magic’ of MN.

Many an ageist stereotype or bigotry is aired on MN & it is not cancelled. It is directly challenged which is far more effective than cancelling a post or a thread. Likewise racist, sexist & homophobic comments & stereotypes.

How many more posters have to say this happens before those who are slavish to the mods and believe they are Infallible, wake up to the truth?

Seems to be quite an influx of spam threads lately too. Which are rightly deleted. But the site does seem to be all over the place these days. I've been here 12 years, never seen it like this.

You don't prevent racism/sexism by shutting down conversations about them.

Fubla72 · 03/05/2022 22:18
Annoying isn’t it, I was enjoying the McDonald’s one and wanted an update on the one about the horrid friend but gone!

I started the McDonalds one. I am not a troll. I was shocked at the size of those people and felt it deserved discussing. I am not a goady person either

‘If Mumsnet's policy is to avoid any offence being taken by any of its members…’

We are consenting adults etc, with the given that comments made are legal & within guidelines, it is up to us to choose to take offence or not.
If you don’t like it, leave it on the side of the plate/block it.

I have reluctantly left posts when the discourse has become so convoluted, the original purpose & intent of the post has long been lost & the whole shebang has descended into a slanging match & vile name calling. I don’t know if that post still stands.

You're starting to sound a bit strange.
Maybe take a break?

Trolls. Pissed off after I took the time to type a detailed reply on a thread - a couple of posts later the troll jumped the shark and outed itself as a pervert. Thread rightly deleted to stop others wasting their time.

I think it is clear from this thread that whilst there are threads that get deleted because they are clearly goady or pervy trolls (and this had always been the case since day one) there are also threads that get deleted for seemingly little or no reason (or certainly none that can be discerned anyway.)

And now the bloody 'tomorrow we can vote' thread has been deleted because "As this thread hasn't been posted on much, we've agreed to take it down for the OP"
I mean wtf?!!

Thing is, there is some offence that can be left/ignored, but sometimes it is something which will affect others.

The thread this morning from the OP who felt that children in care weren’t her responsibility and was clearly incredibly bitter to the extent she was really offensive about adoption/fostering was offensive to anyone who is either adopted or fostered or who has personally adopted/fostered.

And that thread deteriorated because people who were quite rightly offended by it responded in kind and it ended up in a slanging match which could not really be resolved. So it was better it went.

This.

It’s just a website. If you don’t like how it’s run you’re not obliged to be here.

But tbh the attitude just makes me think one thing…. ;)