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Deletions due to being discussed elsewhere

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Coconutspongexo · 15/11/2017 08:38

Hi

I was wondering if this is going to be the case for all posts now? Can they be deleted just because they’re discussed elsewhere?

It’s a public forum of course all posts might be discussed elsewhere, that’s the risk you take when you post online.

Why doesn’t this happen when people’s threads end up on Facebook/twitter pages dedicated to slating MN users? Not to mention the scummy journos who lift entire threads on here but MNHQ are happy to keep them?

I thought you didn’t delete threads unless against guidelines etc? Is this going to be a new guideline? Must not be discussed on certain forums?

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CoteDAzur · 16/11/2017 00:12

Farce - I will neither confirm nor deny that I might be posting or just lurking on the Reddit sub. In either case obviously not as often as you, since I don’t know a “most prolific poster” Grin

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:12

unhidden but if (as they insist) the raison d'être of the site is free speech, everyone is welcome, no deletions etc, why are they hidden in the first place

Look you know people in subReddits don't control the way the whole of Reddit works, don't you?

If you rush off to a super secret Facebook group in a minute (not that I think you would) you won't be able to change the basic features of Facebook by belonging to or even modding a Facebook group. You know that, don't you?

CoteDAzur · 16/11/2017 00:14

“That lot” are just MNers so no, I don’t have any problem associating with them.

DixieNormas · 16/11/2017 00:14

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FarseAboutAce · 16/11/2017 00:15

Battleax, not that scenario of course, but made up "memories" yes. With lots of gullible posters saying "oh wow, did she really say that? I always knew there was something odd about her".

Have you been there all along? You appear to have missed bits.

DixieNormas · 16/11/2017 00:16

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MollyBear · 16/11/2017 00:16

Hate to point out the obvious, but just because a feature is there, that doesn’t mean it has to be used...

If the posters on the MN subreddit actually cared about free speech etc etc, then maybe they could restrain themselves from downvoting any dissenting opinion?

Just a thought.

DixieNormas · 16/11/2017 00:18

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CoteDAzur · 16/11/2017 00:20

“If someone with five (or more) accounts want to argue with someone with one account, they simply downvote them so they can't post for a while”

Not true. You have to wait between posts if your total karma is negative, not just on any one thread. So nobody with 5 accounts (or 10) can do that to you, and you will not have to worry about it unless you are a wanker on every thread you post.

You can have 5 accounts on here, too, you know. TiggyD was on the Reddit sub the other day telling everyone how he is banned on MN but still posts under a different name.

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:22

Hate to point out the obvious, but just because a feature is there, that doesn’t mean it has to be used...

Well yes that is what it means if it's an automatic feature.

FarseAboutAce · 16/11/2017 00:23

I'm not on a FB group. I don't like the attempts by some jumped up twat (with multiple accounts on mn and elsewhere) to make a name for herself on another site by fooling everyone with false allegations about loads of mumsnetters. I suppose yesterday was the final straw - so many made up facts, so much pretence at memory (while obviously ASing), so much me-me-me while trying to convince everyone it was someone else's fault.

MN has lots of things wrong with it, but allowing the deliberate upset of a poster having a pretty shitty time irl isn't usually something they allow.

Cote, I didn't either (prolific poster bit) until I looked yesterday and had a "bingo" moment, followed by the realisation of how easy it is to troll-spot look at poster's history. It's very revealing, you should try it Grin

Though sadly I have noticed an attempt to delete/deregister a couple of the accounts.

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:25

Battleax, not that scenario of course, but made up "memories" yes. With lots of gullible posters saying "oh wow, did she really say that? I always knew there was something odd about her".

I'm not really recognising the allusion at all, TBH. Give me another clue. If it was about a troll that's one thing, but, no I'm a bit lost...

Have you been there all along? You appear to have missed bits.

I've had a pretty comprehensive poke around by now, I'd have thought. It became my insomnia reading for a while:

IMightMentionGriddlebone · 16/11/2017 00:25

not that scenario of course, but made up "memories" yes. With lots of gullible posters saying "oh wow, did she really say that? I always knew there was something odd about her".

I saw that too.

Battleax: it is actually possible for mods to hide the downvote/upvote icons if they don't like the way it's turning conversation on their sub. It's true that Redditors can counter such measures on their own display settings, but it's still a thing.

This will furnish you with a better explanation: www.reddit.com/r/modhelp/comments/1uen0m/are_mods_able_to_deactivate_the_downvoting_button/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=comment_list

FarseAboutAce · 16/11/2017 00:26

I'm not registered on Reddit either, so I don't know about pm's there.

Cote: "wanker" = disagrees with the nastiness = deserves to be silenced

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:27

I'm not on a FB group. I don't like the attempts by some jumped up twat (with multiple accounts on mn and elsewhere) to make a name for herself on another site by fooling everyone with false allegations about loads of mumsnetters.

No, I'm seriously, literally, totally lost.

Who do you mean?

How do you know how many accounts they have anywhere?

What accusations are you talking about?

(How is anyone supposed to follow what you're talking about?)

MollyBear · 16/11/2017 00:27

Battleax, it's clearly too late for me, as that is making no sense whatsoever.

What's an automatic feature? The Downvoting? So redditors aren't clicking the arrows themselves, it just happens automatically?

DixieNormas · 16/11/2017 00:29

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MollyBear · 16/11/2017 00:32

So Cote, if I toddled off to the MN subreddit and registered, and posted something that many over there would disagree with (I can't think what I could post to make that happen Smile), then you are saying it wouldn't be all that easy for the regular posters who disagreed with me to downvote me out of sight?

Because I don't think I'd be getting many upvotes to try to cancel that negative karma Smile

And that's without even addressing the issue of multiple accounts.

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:33

I'm getting confused too now. Maybe it's merely default and not automatic. The voting is manual (confusingly with some automated "fuzzing") the hiding of -5 and below voted posts is automatic and over-rideable. Or so I believed. Perhaps it's a default feature that is both over rideable and removable. But I doubt it's a conspiracy.

None of it reads to me like the darkness a few of you can see and I've read a fair chunk of it.

paxillin · 16/11/2017 00:36

I don't like the attempts by some jumped up twat (with multiple accounts on mn and elsewhere) to make a name for herself on another site by fooling everyone with false allegations about loads of mumsnetters.

Indeed making a name for oneself like that would be ugly. More importantly, it would be pointless. I'm not actually called paxillin out there in the real world. I think your name is not FarseAboutAce either. Nobody would ever know!

MollyBear · 16/11/2017 00:36

So, like I said, just because a feature is there, that doesn't mean it has to be used.

And if it truly is a place where anything can be said, by anyone, there wouldn't be so much downvoting going on. And there certainly wouldn't be any glee over the results of downvoting (I haven't even spent much time there, and even I have seen the childish sniggers over comments disappearing)

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:37

Why is everyone so worked up about the voting?

It's handy to see troll info.

MollyBear · 16/11/2017 00:40

I'm not worked up about the voting.

It's just one thing that has come up on a chat thread, and I'm chatting about it.

FarseAboutAce · 16/11/2017 00:41

yy Dixie, some people are right dicks Grin

Battleax you might not notice if you don't "know" the people some of them are talking about. It all went right over my head until yesterday when I looked waaaay back (I was stuck in the house for a day with shit hot wifi and an equally bored and rather techy friend who also uses mn). We had fun. And ended up more than slightly disillusioned.

I think sub-forums can turn off downvotes, but some people don't want to.

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:43

It's just one thing that has come up on a chat thread, and I'm chatting about it.

I'll rephrase. Of all the possible aspects of the subReddit that we could chat about, why is everyone so discussion chatting about the voting?

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