Deletions due to being discussed elsewhere

[Coconutspongexo]

Hi

I was wondering if this is going to be the case for all posts now? Can they be deleted just because they’re discussed elsewhere?


It’s a public forum of course all posts might be discussed elsewhere, that’s the risk you take when you post online.


Why doesn’t this happen when people’s threads end up on Facebook/twitter pages dedicated to slating MN users? Not to mention the scummy journos who lift entire threads on here but MNHQ are happy to keep them?


I thought you didn’t delete threads unless against guidelines etc? Is this going to be a new guideline? Must not be discussed on certain forums?

[MollyBear]

Are you being deliberately obtuse, Cote?

Neither of Lorna's posts mention anything about the number of readers, nor did the thread deletion message.

As Lorna pointed out above, the OP of the thread approached them with privacy concerns , and this is what lead to the deletion.

If, as you assert, all the Reddit posters are MNers (or ex-MNers), then they all know the 'rules' concerning AS and 'joining the dots' and potential outing.

What was going on on Reddit was not acceptable by MN standards (which is why it doesn't take place on MN). The thread wasn't merely 'discussing' the post from here, it was dissecting it, dragging up details from other threads, misinterpreting info, adding spurious 'facts' and doing it all under the banner of "well, it's our right to discuss all this"

It is, indeed. But it is then extraordinary to complain when a poster withdraws their thread because of it, or when MN decide to support their poster and try to help them maintain their anonymity.

The Reddit thread, with it's blister and bravado of "well, if she didn't want it discussed she shouldn't have posted it" is spectacularly. Issuing the point. The poster didn't 'want it discussed', she wanted help and advice.

Of course if it had been taken up by the Fail, or tweeted or promoted on FB (although I thought MN had agreed not to highlight sensitive topic threads on social media?) then the thread would have reached a 'wider audience' too. And there would have, no doubt, been many disparaging and derogatory comments. But I doubt that wider audience would have had either the time or the inclination to AS, cross reference, and just plain make up whatever they liked to fit some weird agenda, coming ever closer to doxxing. And certainly not with the same viscious glee that is shown on the Reddit sub.

[Coconutspongexo]

Ah really? I have no idea who the OP over there is over here.

[Coconutspongexo]

By the way I’m not arsed that the thread was deleted I don’t blame the thread being deleted it makes perfect sense but it’s the deletion message that I had issue with which MNHQ have addressed now.

[Weebo]

It's hard to keep up Dipping. Name changing drama llama troll.

Does the same thing over there. Has multiple accounts and deletes the ones that people start to turn on.

It was bound to happen - Trolls are everywhere but people seem to be eating it up on the sub.

[Coconutspongexo]

By the way I’m not arsed that the thread was deleted I don’t blame the thread being deleted it makes perfect sense but it’s the deletion message that I had issue with which MNHQ have addressed now.

[Coconutspongexo]

Sorry for duplicate posts - lost signal whilst posting

[FarseAboutAce]

Seeing this particular op's indignation is a bit odd.

Knowing her and some of her many, many previous user names I know a heck of a lot about her. Now if I was a right bitch, I could AS and then go over to Reddit to almost (but not quite because no doxxing don't you know?) out her in real life.

I could then make up a load of extra lies, accuse her of criminal behaviour, and misquote what she's said (with the addition of "I remember her admitting to shoplifting, stealing from her boss and cheating in her university exams, but of course all those thread have been deleted now").

It would be hilarious, wouldn't it?

[Weebo]

Hey, apparently anything anyone writes on MN is fair game Farse.

Or does that rule only apply to people like Euph?

[FarseAboutAce]

I agree: after all it's their own fault for posting on mn in the first place.

I'm practicing a bit of victim blaming before heading over, to make sure I fit in.

[FarseAboutAce]

Now who is the Reddit poster who keeps double posting and telling everyone it's because the signal keeps dropping?

I don't think it's Dippin, but I should really go and have a search to check.

Because, well, I have a right to. A duty, perhaps.

[JoJoBow]

MN's site, MN's roolz hun.

[Weebo]

Add a big bunch of hypocrisy to your posts and you'll fit in perfectly.

[Weebo]

Oh look - the hypocrite panicking over there.

Well, now you know how Euph felt you massive twat.

[FarseAboutAce]

Yes Weebo, you are right.

I should go and make sympathetic noises first before (not doxxing remember, I wouldn't do that) pointing out the university, course, hometown, age and school of children, appearance, facial features, friends, financial position etc, etc. Definitely not doxxing, that's wrong.

Should I put all their mn names as well as all their Reddit names out there too, or is that a step too far do you think? Bearing in mind that they've put it all on two public sites for everyone to see, and well they are grown women (or woman) and should know better and therefor deserve it.

[FarseAboutAce]

I await the deletion of this thread, because Mumsnet, quite rightly, doesn't allow people to AS other posters, to out them in real life (even partially), to follow them around or to deliberately make life harder for them.

Though I am a little confused. Maybe the op (of either thread) could clarify. ASing is ok as long as I post the details on another site, not on MN, is that right? And as long as I only posts lists of details. To be doxxing it would have to be a full name, address and photograph, wouldn't it?

[Rufustherenegadereindeer1]

Why on earth are you two bothered

If they are that bad ignore them

[Weebo]

I'm not remotely bothered Rufus.

We're just chatting about a troll.

[Rufustherenegadereindeer1]

You may be chatting weebo

farse sounds like she is taking this whole thing way too seriously

[MollyBear]

Some Redditors should brush up on their knowledge of the usage and meaning of ‘could’.

Then they wouldn’t waste so much energy fretting over something which probably won’t ever happen...

[paxillin]

ASing is ok as long as I post the details on another site, not on MN, is that right?

MN have no control over other sites. There is no "what happens on MN, stays on MN" clause, either. If there was. Daily Wail would have to write their own content for FeWail and the Wright Show would be fucked.

I do understand why the OP asked to delete her thread (I think the OP of this thread does, too), but this seems to have moved far beyond that.

[Weebo]

Oh c'mon. Farse is just winding up a wind-up merchant Rufus. :o

They are the one taking it too seriously.

[CrispyDuckPlease]

Farce, just do it, we're all waiting to see if you can put your money where your mouth or fingers are. Come on, spill ☺️

[Rufustherenegadereindeer1]

weebo

[FarseAboutAce]

I do mostly ignore them. I'm not taking it personally, I'm just surprised that they are so insistent that what they are doing is ok, and yet they are so upset when it's even hinted that someone might do it to them.

I'm tired of posters on another site making up lies and publishing lists of "facts" obtained by trawling through years of various mumsnetters' posting history, while cackling idiotically about how clever they are and how much the posters deserve it.

I'm not stupid enough, mean enough, vindictive enough, untruthful enough, bored enough, or online enough to post on the other site

[Weebo]

Indeed Farse - but it was fun watching them squirm. :o