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Why has Stratters been banned for reporting suspected Trolls as per MN policy?

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SoPassRemarkable · 07/08/2017 10:23

Long standing, sensible poster.

Says she didn't troll hunt on the threads but reported. And has been banned for over reporting? Hardly her fault if there's lots of trolls to report?

Totally puts me off reporting any suspicions I have.

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Wheelycote · 07/08/2017 22:48

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SnarkOfTheThunderPants · 07/08/2017 22:55

I don't think I quite get Reddit yet, it's a bit like eating at Wagamama, what with the comments all over the place.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 07/08/2017 23:05

Exactly olenna

I think Reddit is the kind of
Place people lurk before they get detailed data on how to acess the dark net

I am unhealthily interested in the Dark net Blush

SnarkOfTheThunderPants · 07/08/2017 23:17

Oh really ? I didn't know Reddit was so dark. I thought it was all earthporn and mysteries.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 07/08/2017 23:20

I'll sign up tomorrow for Reddit, I'm too tired atm and it looks complicated. Are we using our MN names?

Gowgirl · 07/08/2017 23:24

Some are if you want your name register as it because you cant name change.

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 07/08/2017 23:24

There's a few of us there already Dame, I haven't used this name , don't know whyConfused.

Quite easy to navigate after an initial 'what the fuck' Grin

DixieNormas · 07/08/2017 23:37

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 07/08/2017 23:42

Ok thanks Smile

NellieBuff · 08/08/2017 05:38

I agree that MNHQ tends to have double standards and their unconscious bias does tend to come through when moderating the site. Their site their rules but they should apply them consistently.

I agree that they are only interested in new users they will soon learn that without old timers the site will actually die. Folk will begin to think of it as full of trolls etc and stop coming and that will interfere with their profit. Might not happen tomorrow but will happen sometime.

ConstanceCraving · 08/08/2017 06:05

I think you're right there Nellie, sadly.

theporcinegrappler · 08/08/2017 07:27

Yeah they do seem to be taking the magic money tree for granted don't they
We do all the work.... they get all the money
Kerching 💲💲💲
nicely nicely
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SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 08/08/2017 07:49

I'm on Reddit, but using my existing account which is linked to real me because I usually only read stuff there. I might set up an anonymous account so I can comment.

theporcinegrappler · 08/08/2017 07:55

Mumsnet is pretty much the same business model as Facebook
Once you get enough people gathered onto one platform you can monetize the network effects and rinse the shit out of them

It's very easy to work out what techniques will make people compulsively keep using a platform because you have so many people there you can run experiments to find out what works
it's just a matter of getting the algorithms right and harvesting all the data

theporcinegrappler · 08/08/2017 09:08

There's a whole industry devoted to making us compulsively stay on the various platforms
www.cbsnews.com/news/what-is-brain-hacking-tech-insiders-on-why-you-should-care/

theporcinegrappler · 08/08/2017 09:14

From the link....
' small companies that specialize in what Ramsay Brown calls "brain hacking."

Ramsay Brown: A computer programmer who now understands how the brain works knows how to write code that will get the brain to do certain things.

Ramsay Brown studied neuroscience before co-founding Dopamine Labs, a start-up crammed into a garage. The company is named after the dopamine molecule in our brains that aids in the creation of desire and pleasure. Brown and his colleagues write computer code for apps used by fitness companies and financial firms. The programs are designed to provoke a neurological response.

"A computer programmer who now understands how the brain works knows how to write code that will get the brain to do certain things." Ramsay Brown
Anderson Cooper: You're trying to figure out how to get people coming back to use the screen?

Ramsay Brown: When should I make you feel a little extra awesome to get you to come back into the app longer?

The computer code he creates finds the best moment to give you one of those rewards, which have no actual value, but Brown says trigger your brain to make you want more. For example, on Instagram, he told us sometimes those likes come in a sudden rush.

Ramsay Brown: They're holding some of them back for you to let you know later in a big burst. Like, hey, here's the 30 likes we didn't mention from a little while ago. Why that moment--

Anderson Cooper: So all of a sudden you get a big burst of likes?

Ramsay Brown: Yeah, but why that moment? There's some algorithm somewhere that predicted, hey, for this user right now who is experimental subject 79B3 in experiment 231, we think we can see an improvement in his behavior if you give it to him in this burst instead of that burst.

When Brown says "experiments," he's talking generally about the millions of computer calculations being used every moment by his company and others use to constantly tweak your online experience and make you come back for more'

theporcinegrappler · 08/08/2017 09:39

www.salon.com/2017/08/05/free-your-brain-how-silicon-valley-denies-us-the-freedom-to-pay-attention/
'[Developers] want you to use it in particular ways and for long periods of time. Because that’s how they make their money.”

Harris was homing in on the fact that, increasingly, it isn’t the price tag on the platform itself that earns companies money, but the attention they control on said platform – whether it’s a voice assistant, operating system, app or website. We literally “pay” attention to ads or sponsored content in order to access websites.

But Harris went on to explain that larger platforms, using systems of rewards similar to slot machines, are working not only to monetize our attention, but also to monopolize it. And with that monopoly comes incredible power.'

Often on Mumsnet do we have someone complaining that they haven't been able to get anything done because they've been mums netting all day?
This is no accident, the site as with other platforms, is designed to make you spend as much time here as possible

picklemepopcorn · 08/08/2017 11:01

Grappler, I can identify with that. I struggle to sit without fiddling with my iPad, these days. Really struggle. Compulsive checking... even when the alert part of my brain has had enough, the subconscious bits are busy tap tapping away.

theporcinegrappler · 08/08/2017 11:07

The things that we've compulsively check have been deliberately and precisely engineered in such a way as to make us compulsively check them
The Tech Giants have the benefits of huge datasets are able to run large-scale experiments to find out what works

Wheelycote · 08/08/2017 20:01

And experiment thing.

Sounds like we're selling our souls

AnnieAnoniMouse · 23/08/2017 22:50

Mind hacking....they're welcome, as long as they promise to let me know if they find one! Mine's been missing for ages.

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