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To Ask That MNHQ Treat ALL Posts/Posters/Campaigns Seeking To Derail & Hunt Out Any Form Of Bigotry, As They Do Troll Hunters

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RockinHippy · 20/10/2016 11:43

The current trend has been a campaign to point out & completely derail threads with shouts of disabilsm, too often IMHO, unfounded.

Though I do feel a lot of empathy for the posters involved & know too well that disablism can exist. Plus I don't doubt they have difficult lives dealing with all that comes with DCs with SN, however I do feel what is happening currently on MN is way over the top, hypersensitive & does no one any favours, least of all the disabled & is IMHO comparable to "troll hunting" & feel it would improve many posters enjoyment of MN if MNHQ could treat this & any similarly bigot hunting posts/campaigns in the same way as they do Troll Hunters.

I should add, I am a disabled DM, of a disabled DC & as such I do not appreciate the current campaign as speaking for us all - not in my name thank you very much, its way OTT & quite frankly damaging & it has become very boring.

I have no intention if getting into any debates, I have seen enough posts to form the opinion that the inevitable stress & real life disabilist problems that can of course go hand in hand with raising DCs with SN can result in a warped perspective of others intentions. I also find it sad, that posters who should have far more empathy for people starting threads in difficult & stressful situations, might not actually word themselves very well & really don't need posters jumping down their throats for perceived bigotry that the rest of us do not see. Ive just left a thread with a prime example of that, where reference to a school looking out for "bad kids" was instantly taken to mean SN, rather than just troubled kids in all quises, very often without any SN at all, as has been our own experience with a similarly biased primary school. That is not disabilism, it is is simply a bad choice of words referring to disruptive & aggressive behaviour for a host of reasons.

I wont reply to any attacks on this post. I just think in the interest of keeping MN the welcoming, place where parents etc can ask for help & opinions related to a specific issue, that it is meant to be. That it might be helpful that all such campaigns & posts be treat in the same way as troll hunting & any grievances as regards any posting/threads be reported, rather than attacked in the frenzied & unhelpful way that seems to be happening too often of late.

Perhaps those of us who feel this way can let MNHQ know here...

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PolterGoose · 20/10/2016 18:37

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 20/10/2016 18:42

They will think it's ok to be twats on other threads now

No one has said that.

It isn't ok for anyone to be a twat.

On some threads there are a number of people on both sides of the discussion, that haven't exactly covered themselves in glory whilst debating.

BishopBrennansArse · 20/10/2016 18:42

Completely agree, usual.

petitpois55 · 20/10/2016 18:47

The real puzzler for me is the sheer number of posters with disabled children, or who are disabled themselves who are telling these posters loud and clear that they are not speaking for them, and yet they are are being conveniently ignored.

The sheer arrogance of that is astounding!!
It's becoming clear that a minority of posters are activly trying to close down discussion, not to mention displaying signs of having somewhat of a persecution complex.Shock

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Pagwatch · 20/10/2016 18:52

I don't really understand that point TBH petitpois.

Is it that every person dealing with disability should view life the same? And disagreement invalidates one view or the other?

I don't agree with Ched Evans girlfriend about what constitutes rape yet we are both women.
Is that the only thing that determines a persons views? If we live with disability we are a homogenous group who have to agree?

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Pagwatch · 20/10/2016 18:54

Is that it? Disability is the defining feature? Background, education, personality, political views, temperament etc matters not a jot. If you live with disability you should agree or it's awkward.

Is that why I keep seeing 'we' and 'they'? It's quite pronounced.

DixieNormas · 20/10/2016 18:55

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Pagwatch · 20/10/2016 19:07

Hang on - so my son having SN means that I now have to confine my views to those expressed by every other person affected by disability.

Just like the Ched Evans comparison , if someone thinks 'retarded' is perfectly ok then I have to agree if they too live with disability. It's not possible to disagree?

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Soubriquet · 20/10/2016 19:09

I don't think it's that easy Navy

As a deaf woman I will experience different attitudes to someone in a wheelchair for example

So whilst we are both disabled, we will have different experiences and different perspectives

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Pagwatch · 20/10/2016 19:10

I should add that I've had an argument on here with a woman who thought calling her child retarded and mocking them was fine. And another woman in real life who endlessly called her DD an annoying little cunt but it didn't matter because she had SN and couldn't really understand.

I think they were arseholes. Their experience of disability didn't stop them being arseholes.

I really don't want to have to embrace the views of arseholes just because our children have the same disability.

yesterdaysunshine · 20/10/2016 19:11

I am fed up of seeing 'SN brigade.'

The only people who mention it are those purporting to be against disabilitist posts.

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