dear mn hq why are so many disablist threads being left up

[Samcro]

one today for instance and mn hq post
"We don't think that this thread is disablist, it is a valid discussion that we don't think should be shut down. "

yet it has obviously been reported.
cause hurt and upset
how is that making life easier(or better) for the sn community`?

or this message from mn hq
That CBeebies is just far too PC
Thread deleted
Message from MNHQ: Thanks so much for all the reports about this.

Although there has been some interesting debate and discussion, we do agree that the OP and some of what ensues is disablist, so we have decided to delete.

how can these be interesting debates??
\not long ago mn hq said that they were going to be quicker dealing with this stuff
what happened??

Talking of "Mr Spocks" is just more cliché. Sorry. Too much of that around.

veryproud - Yes, that is very common in those circles. I would love to be a fly on the wall for when someone tries to explain to your ExH, his Gf and scientist friends that they are all disabled

You do love to.play devils advocate don't you Cote.

Anyway to get back to OP just because there are some people who don't find being on spectrum disabling doesn't mean it's fine for disablism to run rife on MN as it has been doing.

No.

Someone (silly brain again...) suggested on the deleted thread that the posts are purposely being left up to prove the need of the new campaign. Should perhaps be on the conspiracy theory thread, but interesting that it occurred to someone nonetheless.

And on that note, if anyone is interested, I would like to recommend a book: "The Strangest Man", the biography of Paul Dirac, a contemporary of Einstrin, Bohr, and Heisenberg who "discovered" antimatter through mathematical calculations.

Completely OT, but speaking of books cote, look what arrived today...

Beyond that was me. Just an idea.

'I definitely perceive ASD as a different way of thinking, in many ways making a lot more sense than neurotypical 'rules' BUT because society won't accept this it becomes a disability'

But ASD is NOT just about how you think FFS. It's your whole reality. Some people like my daughter who are very severe have a very severe language disorder and will never live independently. She has very severe self injurious behaviours, suffers from extreme anxiety and she needs 24 hour care. Then there's me. I'm quite capable of holding down a job but I get sensory overload in supermarkets. I over think everything. There is never a time when my brain is not overthinking everything. I find socialising exhausting. I would much prefer to stay in the house than go out because going out is draining, driving is draining. I'm 36 - I've had to spend time making sure I can cope with life and with being a parent by not socialising much because it's draining.

Just never assume anything about anyone.

I blame the Big Bang Theory. The show, not the actual theory. That programme makes me stabby

"There is never a time when my brain is not overthinking everything"
Big yes to this! I thought that was just me being me

Lottielou

I know of someone who had undiagnosed ASD and worked in IT. Was amazing at his job. But had massive breakdown.

I see plenty of posts where posters describe themselves or their children as 'a bit aspie'. I would like opinions on this from posters with children with autism. It's not a term I would be comfortable using, and think that it sometimes is meant in place of 'has traits that are similar to children with autism'. If this is the case then I think it is very minimising, as (as others have said on this thread) people wouldn't say 'a bit cerebral palsy' or similar.

Or is 'aspie' a phrase used by people with autism/their parents? If so, does 'a bit' mean high functioning?

If anyone could share their views on this I would be interested to read them, as it's a phrase that makes me wonder.

I don't know twenty, it isn't a phrase I would use.
I describe my (undiagnosed) children as "very like me". Because they are.

When to use aspergers itself is...complicated.
In my eyes and definitions I have read, aspergers is autism with no developmental delay, it is not necessarily less 'severe' than autism. However, I do believe (this is from memory) that the diagnosis of aspergers has recently been removed from the DSM (used in America) and reclassified to high functioning autism. However we (generally) don't use the DSM in the uk so it should still exist here. Then of course we get on to the subject that 'high functioning' is nothing to do with level of 'functioning' and relates purely to the persons IQ.

Is that what you were after?

I agree that is normally preludes describing behaviour that is stereotypical. Do you find the word itself offensive? Is it something that MNHQ should/could delete a post for?

I think the use of high functioning is misleading to many people, as like you say, it doesn't mean what people assume.
I don't know very much about the correct terminology, and mostly read threads like these to educate myself.

I guess ime it depends whether they are using "a bit aspie/autistic" to mean "haha, they remind me of Sheldon, isn't it funny" or "I genuinely think they are autistic, but don't want to go into detail with you when it is irrelevant here and noyb"

Aspie itself isn't a slur or anything, as far as I know

Lot tie I'm talking of my personal experience. I'm not undermining your experience, merely sharing my own. Please don't undermine it.

Autism is a spectrum. I'm not saying my family doesn't have struggles aside from non acceptance and society's expectations but I do have a very big problem with people thinking autism - the essence of someone's being - being a 'problem' that needs to be 'cured'.

I'm very aware it's more than just thought processes. I have three children who all have autism and have finally started the process of assessment for myself.