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Did you ban John Hemming (the MP) for outing me ?

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CarpeVinum · 21/12/2013 23:47

Cos he isn't on The Thread.

And I'd like to know why.

I am immaginging that the party whip we've been phoning, emailing and twittering has tied him up and run off with his keyboard.

Can I hang on to that fantasy, or did you ban him ?

It's not the end of the world to me that he posted my twitter account, knowing it was me and knowing it was my real name. But I will quickly drum up some minding if required to purge MN of his presence.

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YoniMatopoeia · 22/12/2013 09:08

Watching with interest.

JakeBullet · 22/12/2013 09:14

John "man of the people" Hemming was also among a far too large number of MPs who voted AGAINST investigating the reaaons for the massive increase in food bank use!

Just added to my irritation .....self serving twat like the rest of em.

TheFutureSupremeRulersMum · 22/12/2013 09:14

I thought parliamentary priviledge only applied when they were talking in the House of Commons and not generally because they are an MP. Or have I got that wrong?

sillymillyb · 22/12/2013 09:16

This sounds horrendous! Can anyone link me to the other thread? I'm on app so can't click the link that was posted earlier.

nennypops · 22/12/2013 09:20

He may have been quiet because the Court of Protection seems to have been publishing a few of its judgments pursuant to Sir James Munby's ruling, and he's been busy ringing up journos giving them soundbites. It's so much easier than answering those awkward questions on here.

scaevola · 22/12/2013 09:27

I think that outing a poster should be a banning matter.

I find the actions of that poster extraordinary.

I've met some pompous MPs who have inflated ideas of self-importance in the past. But I think this is in a whole different league.

Golddigger · 22/12/2013 09:36

Seeing as his partner is now posting, I think it is likely that he has been banned.
But I always think back to the AF debaucle, and realise that posters are sometimes suspended for say a week.
So even though he may have gone for now, he could be back.
May be worth checking with mumsnet what sort of ban, or suspension, temporary or otherwise, he may have.

CarpeVinum · 22/12/2013 09:38

silly

This is the most recent thread. There have been three in total

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/1938715-Child-taken-from-womb-Truth-into-darkness?msgid=43804138#43804138

If you skip to johnhemming's first deleted post, that was the one where he revealed the names of all three little girls, and DOBs.. I'd say skip down from there to Spero's post where she c&p her email to Essex LA, it all really kicks off from there.

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Spero · 22/12/2013 09:41

I am the poster he keeps threatening to sue. He reported me to the Bar Standards board last year so I know it's not an idle threat.

He has breached a reporting restrictions order and named the baby of Allesandra. Pachieiri. This is contempt of court for which you can expect to be fined or imprisoned.

He has shown no remorse nor made any apology.

He then published my twitter handle which shows my real name.

He then published the twitter handles of three other users in an attempt to bully them into shutting up.

He then posted while drunk, saying he was off to the pub and 'I am not sober but I am right'

BUT I hope he has not been banned because it actually quite handy having him pop up all easily identifiable. Makes it easier to find and challenge him.

However if he is banned, there is ample justification for it.

CarpeVinum · 22/12/2013 09:41

Now there as thought Golddigger

MNHQ Has John Hemming MP been suspended for outing me ?

If I start to mind more could that become a ban ?

Cos I don't mind about my name personally.

But am not keen on the "trying to intimidate people into shutting up and not telling people what he did" motivation behind outing my name.

Oddly enough.

If fact I mind more and more by the mintue.

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lougle · 22/12/2013 09:44

I did fear that the screenshots sent to the paper would be construed as you breaking the court order. There must be some restrictions on parliamentary privilege, surely?

Maryz · 22/12/2013 09:44

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lougle · 22/12/2013 09:53

www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/cm83/8318/8318.pdf document on PP.

I can't c&p at the second, but it only applies within parliamentary proceedings, not outside of them.

DoItTooBabyJesus · 22/12/2013 09:54

Sorry, I had read that synopsis, I meant where and how did he out you?

DoItTooBabyJesus · 22/12/2013 09:58

Ah, was it twitter?

nennypops · 22/12/2013 10:45

DoItToo: he did it on the thread Carpe refers to. He published links to the twitter feeds of three posters - I can't remember whether the other two were identifiable from the feed, but Carpe was. The post has now been deleted.

I found the whole thing quite creepy. There was a clear implied threat to others who were critical of him on the thread that he would out them. And it's really quite bizarre that anyone, let alone an MP, thinks it necessary to spend ages trawling round the internet finding that sort of information.

DoItTooBabyJesus · 22/12/2013 10:51

Oh, I read most of that thread but obviously didn't get that the deleted post was publishing twitter handles.

I completely agree that he seemed very threatened on the thread and behaved outrageously badly. Towards mumsnetters and the Italian mum.

I'm interested as I live in Birmingham and have a keen interest in our local politics. Interesting too that his lover (?) turned up on the thread.

CarpeVinum · 22/12/2013 10:52

I did fear that the screenshots sent to the paper would be construed as you breaking the court order. There must be some restrictions on parliamentary privilege, surely?

I am not subject to the British court order because I am not in Britian.

I am subject to the Italian privacy laws, but without wanting to expose too much of what I've been up to, I am in the clear here for sending it to the guardian. I did not send it for publication, I sent it to alert to political misconduct and I went to great langths to ensure it went to a direct email higher up, not a general one corrsponsance that any Tom, Dick or Harry could poke around in. Crack Italian lawyer team quite happy that is not an issue I need to worry about. There is precidence or so ething to domwith consitituins...or something.

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LakeDistrictBabe · 22/12/2013 10:52

Whyever would a British MP out you?

He tried to out everyone who disagreed with him.

And we ended up all disagreeing with him because he broke the law and called him out on that.

LakeDistrictBabe · 22/12/2013 10:56

@lougle

I did fear that the screenshots sent to the paper would be construed as you breaking the court order.

No, she is an Italian resident. She can't break the court order. Following that reasoning the Italian authorities would have already arrested JH, because he broke a few Italian laws publishing the children names (especially the two ones resident in Italy) and an order of the court of Rome that was meant to go public.

LakeDistrictBabe · 22/12/2013 10:56

Sorry, that was NOT meant to go public

Maryz · 22/12/2013 10:59

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CarpeVinum · 22/12/2013 11:04

and felt quite threatening

Yeah, that's it. He posts stuff in a sort of implied "do not cross me, don't you know who I am ?" sort of way.

He can't win on debate points well made or evidence, so he goes for something a bit more ... menecing for want of a better word.

If I didn't live in Italy far from his clutches I really wpuld have thought twice and may have let it drop.

I think Spero has been incredibly brave becuase he has her in his cross haris and he has been wuite clear he considers her a "fact talking, sense making" thorn in his side.

I think she should get the MN equivilant of a purple heart. She has big brass balls considering his constant threatening to report her again and sue her. All becuase she won't give an elected representative what he sees as his due, a platform free of any form of contradiction of his beliefs and a wholesale acceptance of any beahvpirs he indulges in while he is doing that.

I vote Spero MNer of the year.

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CinnabarRed · 22/12/2013 11:10

So do I. Go Spero!