I have rejoined just to ask this question.

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Why are some members of this site allowed to get away with persistently being vile, pushing an agenda, defending the indefensible, upsetting other members, twisting versions of events and generally being nasty, and they do not get banned?

Not about any one particular poster, but I have noticed that some stronger "personalities" on here seem to be Teflon coated.

Why is this?

Why do the owners of this site want that kind of vile poster and do not seem to care about the number of truly decent kind posters who are being upset and driven off the site?

Oh shirl

My dd was horribly bullied in Year 9 as well, she used to cry in the car all the way to school. The school was ineffectual, I moved her in the end. She was incredibly down about it for ages and is still not the very confident girl she used to be.

I think I said on another thread I have only seen one example of what I would call bullying on MN in the years I have been here. I know MN can be upsetting but I think bullying is very, very rare.

all too troo

Ronnie gets caught up in the sleeves of his jumper ms falls over. He sits in a pile of tomatoes and stews silently.

Gully can you watch your POV love?

...or even a camel is a horse.
Sort of highlights the point of careless rather than malicious posts though, don't you think?

There is an enormous gas explosion. Everyone and all the tomatoes are blown sky high and splatter the land as far as Disneyland.

Except Bastard Gandhi who escapes it with his human shield of children.

A hippopotamus is a river horse.

Disneyland Paris or the real Disneyland in California?

::misses the point::

And the Loch Ness Monster is a water horse.
Don't think horses particularly like tomatoes though.

nessie is actually a plesiosaur!

DS is starting his final year at that shithole in September. He had his hair cut last weekend and shat himself on Monday morning at the crap he would have to endure.

He's got a brilliant circle of friends, has joined a really good youth club and is in a band which has all improved his self confidence and he is more able to fight back than before - he also knows he has my absolute backing at all times and if it gets too much and his tormentors start any physical stuff then he knows that if he punches back I will NOT punish him and I WILL back him 100 percent.

SO - only another 6 months really left of this shit and he can go to college to sit his A levels and he'll be out of that craphole.

higgs I have namechanged many times (to try and get rid of this daft getorf monicker) and people always just say 'who are you' because probably I sound like a MN old timer talking shite or some people just recognise me anyway.

There are loads of reg namechangers and for some bizarre reason it is very easy to work out who they are by their posting style.

I am not convinced that if I changed my name to BuftonTufton for a few weeks people would ignore me or call me an arsewipe. I think the vast majority of people on here just take the post at face value.

Does that make any sense?

oh shirl

they really really shouldn't have to go through this shit

that's true gerrof, i knew I knew ol unicorn...

God Shirls, sorry for your son. My eldest was horrendously bullied as he had the audacity of having both ginger hair and being short-sighted. So my beautiful, smart and funny lad was reduced to a shadow full of self-hate. Even wet the bed repeatedly.

MN at it's worst is nothing, repeat, nothing, like a child who is crushed by bullying.

And this thread is frankly ridiculous. Whatever good points have been made have been lost in a fog of paranoia and nit-picking.

HQ I would lock this thread as nowt can be gained from anything else and you have better things to do with your time than to referee whingeing matches.

Well, obviously, if you changed your name to Bufton Tufton now Getorf it might give the game away.
But, yes, I do see your point. People will have become accustomed to your style if you have been posting for a long while.

Oh fgs Shirley that is utter crap. I am really sorry. Of course it would be so hard to move him now.

Dd was crushed. She was at a (on paper) fantastic selective school, but the teachers really couldn't give a monkeys. She was bullied by a mixed group, just started with mild piss taking about her hair and clothes, then in a PSHE class dd spoke happily at the fact that her great aunt is gay. Unleashes a load of homophobic crap, dd being called a lesbian cunt, shoved down the stairs, all sorts. The school's response was to 'have strong words' with the bullies, and 'for dd's safety' remove her to internal exclusion room. So dd spent a week in a room with cubicles for the naughty kids with set work from the teachers. After a week of this shite, and sleepless nights and tears, I took her out, said she wasn't going back, and got her into a new school (which on paper is a crap comp but genuinely has a zero tolerance approach to bullying) and she loved it.

Still though some remainder of what she went through remains. She joined a load of clubs (including air cadets which has really helped, strangely enough) and is as happy as larry on the surface, but she has hardly any personal confidence, she acts confident iyswim. Blood still boils at the thought of it. And I still feel so guilty at driving her to school in tears and making her get out and go into school when it was all going on.

Sorry for hijack. It's awful, I really feel for any kid and parent going throuh the same. Shirl is the school doing anything?

to have not of having

No Hully. The school have been completely awful and useless.

When DS2 started at secondary the school rang me and asked me why I hadn't put his name down to attend there because of the sibling points thing - I told them I wouldn't subject another one of my children suffering as DS1 had and the admission woman just sort of went "Oh, that's a shame"

wankers.

x posts pinot. The poor lad. I really hope he is OK now.

for all of our lovely children.

I know. And for all the teachers who say 'well just avoid them' and 'you don't help yourself by being sensitive'.

:( x a million

And no, it lasts on. Even with a different school (I yanked all of my sons out of there after losing my rag at the fucking inept Headteacher). Always there, isn't it, underneath their skin.

@ShirleyKnot

No Hully. The school have been completely awful and useless.

When DS2 started at secondary the school rang me and asked me why I hadn't put his name down to attend there because of the sibling points thing - I told them I wouldn't subject another one of my children suffering as DS1 had and the admission woman just sort of went "Oh, that's a shame"

wankers.

OMG, Shirley.

maybe next time anyone NCs try and make it so its not so obvous who you are, if you are regular to something for so long its hard to see what people are talking about IYSWIM. Ive been here since 2009 and have seen many a thread or post that if started by a newbie they would get torn to shreds but when its by a regular its all "oh you are norty xxxxxxx" or if lesser known posters call the regular on a turd post they'll get the piss taken out of them and the thread will then get cleverly sidetracked so as to drown out any opposing views.

Seriously, try NCing and not making it obvious who you are. You'll know what people mean when they talk of 'Royalty' (hate that term but cant spell cliches or whatever they are bloody called).