Deletions - These are ludicrous

[Hullygully]

Ok, that's enough now MNHQ

Stop it with the mad deleting.

oh well, Rebecca. Despite the enormous evidence to the contrary, HQ still insist it's business as usual?

Is it really an Olympics-inspired clean up? Or prospective investors note some disquiet and 'had a word..' with HQ. (either, or any explanation would be better than the bare-faced denial! -it's like finding a 4 yo with jam round it's face and have them deny they've ever been anywhere near the jamjar. Sort of thing. )

"AmazingBouncingFerret can you work that out as percentage of total posts?" Can I fuck, you're looking at someone who failed her Maths GCSE miserably.

And it's not as if 2008-2010 was the dark ages of mumsnet it's post SWMNBN and during biscuitgate so there would of been a high percantage of posts (probably more because all the prolific posters are deregging)

Does it not break the law to condone underage sex? Or rape? (Yes, I have a bee in my bonnet and am going against the general trend of the thread, I know)

I mean, I thought it did .. but when I report, I am told it's merely 'distasteful'.

Seems like a bit of a double-standard with all the deletions of quite boring examples of minor rudeness going on.

BoF and stratters have gone? BoF survived all sorts of hullaballoo, so this has to be pretty bad

Can someone explain the list please TIA

It's our petition Absy, we want MN the way it used to be when you could actually read a thread and every other post wasn't deleted.

I am not burning my minge thank you very much. I am perfectly happy with it the way it is.
Bras on the other hand, I have around 20 that no longer fit

it seems to be since the f4j stuff.

How does the 'Goading' rule work, out of interest? Does it mean goading the OP of a troll-y type thread? What about those threads that are clearly trying to goad a response from the regular posters?

Just asking cos in the last few months I've had one follow me round (clearly saying she was planning to do that) buzzing at me, someone change to my name to post something cryptic and various thinly veiled references in the weekly 'we hate prolific posters' threads. None of those were deleted and MNHQ were aware of 'em. Are they not 'goading' too?
Had I been bothered and told the posters, whoever they were, to fuck off, wouldn't I have been deleted? Cos I'm not at all sure that's fair.

If we all report then the threads will be one long list of 'Message deleted by Mumsnet'.

This does seem like madness. How can things not have changed when a massive amount of people using the site think that it has? I would have noticed if the contentious threads were full of deleted messages. Wouldn't I?

can someone sign my name on the petition please

i got deleted for saying an OP wasn't A N Other

Me too Sue.

I don't report my haterz neether.

But if we all report everythign and it all has to be deleted, perhaps it will highlight how silly things have become?

As they are all in DENIAL.

Please could someone add me to the petition.

Try as I might, I appear to be unable to carry out this simple procedure on my stupid fucking phone.

Much appreciated.

@tethersend

Thanks Rebecca, but I am happy to have the explanation here if that's ok?

Hi Tethers, we removed this post as it was reported for being racist.

We agreed, apologies if the inference was wrong but it read as fairly clear to us at the time and due to the subject matter of the thread.

I've reported a few Hully, when it gets too tiresome, but I don't report someone telling me to feck off . And I'm not prepared to give them the rise they're after so I don't tell them to feck off. But if I did, I'd no doubt be deleted.

Is it part of a policy to 'Clean Up Mumsnet'? Are we doing a Tory trick in sidling in implementing policy changes when you think no-one is looking?

Which reminds me, just see how many policy changes and new legislation is quickly rushed in by the government during this next week hoping that it'll be lost amonst the Jubilee news bollocks.

"We are NOT deleting more than usual at all"

Hmm. In the words of bland-tastic Andie MacDowell in Four Weddings, I think we both know that's a big lie.

Of course personal attacks shouldn't be allowed. That takes it from deliciously offensive to just plain mean. But if we can't engage, question, discuss for fear of being deleted, what's the point?

Stick me on the list. My unruly fuckerish side is straining at the leash and the leather is dangerously close to fraying.

YES! LRD. It's not goading or trolling to post terribly unsupportive stuff to rape victims on the relationship forum either.

That's just educational.

As long as we all know where we stand:

Being a troll = OK unless you are monumentally stupid enough to not change your IP.
Being a Troll Hunter (ie saying that something doesn't add up) = Not OK and a bannable offence.
Saying that being raped when you're in a relationship isn't really rape = OK
Saying that holding that opinion makes you a rape apologist = Not OK.
Calling entire sections of the board withered dried up humourless harridans = OK
Targetting regular members of the boards and describing them as ILK () or being generally nasty = OK as long as you don't name names.
Responding to such attacks = deletion.

I've never reported anyone for telling me to fuck off or whatever, I find it quite amusing.

You can be damn sure I will report everyone now.

Now look here.

You have to C&P and put yourselves on the list.

tut

So WRT to Tethers deleted post, it is now considered racist to call a racist a racist?

Since the deletions are so much more numerous now, I would really prefer MNHQ to have more options on why posts are deleted. It's shit that you can't tell who was offensive, and who was responding to the offensiveness (not necessarily in an offensive way). So it would be nice if they had at least one extra message that says "Message deleted for responding to a deleted message" rather than the overarching "breaking talk guidelines".

Otherwise no one has a scooby who is being a shit and who isn't unless they saw the messages prior to deletion.

I think you've nailed it Shirley

so, you thought that tethers made a racist comment?

fuckit.

Or..............just stop deleting shit.

if someone is offensive or horrid, loads of people pile in and say so.