MNHQ so what is allowed.

[ChristmasFuckers]

Whatand how can we discuss the donations??

Actually, I just remembered last week a poster talking about taking out a doorstep loan because her dc's has no presents. She was given short shrift with comments like "xmas comes on the same day each year ffs, how can you not plan for it" along with practical advice and quick cash tips. No offers of cash.

I'm not sure we should keep banging on about last night's thread and what that poster may or may not be feeling or doing- hopefully she will pipe up at some point.

Shall we stick to what we think MNHQ and the rest of us can do to prevent fraudsters ripping off mumsnetters with sob stories? Or how we can most constructively help posters in difficulty if that's what people want to do?

Should threads covertly or openly requesting or offering money be subject yo deletion, much like sneaky advertising is?

saying thank you only for the cash/shopping is rude. Not everyone can afford/want to donate, but there was a lot of great adive, prayers and support everybody should be thanked for the time and effort

Yes to BOF's question. I support that too.

I asked the op of the donations thread why she had not started a thankyou thread. SHe replied that it would only start a bun fight.

Marking place to see outcome............

Eek I don't know LeBof

if swift deletion is the way it goes, then I fear it will just move off board, and the lack of transparency is even greater, as there is no one saying 'whoa, hold yer horses' at all.

I don't know what the right answer is. other than a general expectation that anyone posting such a thread will not a) expect actual hard cash, b) only accept what is needed, and c) if more is collected maybe there shoudl be an accepted return method (not necessarily to the donators, who will probably say 'no need, I din\t give it to get it back', but maybe to MNHQ to go towards next/this (depending on time of year) Christmas appeal?

but that is all just gentleman's agreement, isn't it? so amounts ot nothng if not entered into wholeheartedly.

BOF, I think threads openly asking for money should be deleted. I morally think it is wrong. Unless it is a thread saying me/DP/DD etc are doing marathon or similar.

The only problem I have is if someone is just having a general moan but not asking for money. Should their thread be deleted in case someone decides to offer money?

SGM so if posters had rallied round to ensure your children would get a Christmas dinner (yes that is what she said) you really wouldn't be thinking of saying oh my god thankyou so much to everyone even after the thread was deleted? It is because the thread was deleted that I would be more vocal in my thanks. Maybe just me though. I would want people to know that I was genuine.

My personal view on this, as a poster who has been on MN for 6½ years is this:

-MNHQ delete posts where posters break talk guidelines. It doesn't seem beneficial, to me, to delete the whole thread (although I recognise that MNHQ can do whatever they want - it's their site). All that happens when an entire thread is deleted, is that it spawns two more.

-Threads involving the passing of tangible assets (whether they be cash or food, clothes or smellies) shouldn't (IMO, again...MNHQ can do what they like) be deleted - we all know what happens. Rumours start and we get half-baked lore.

-There are very specific topics available. One is 'Credit-crunch'. Perhaps people should be encouraged to speak about their financial distresses in an appropriate topic.

-If people didn't respond to threads with offers of tangible assets, then no-one would get the idea that this is a good way of doing things.

-Perhaps MNHQ could have a think about a policy, whereby if posters want to help a MNer, they contact HQ and route it through them?

What SHOULD NOT happen is what has happened over the last day or two.

I agree SGM but as the poster, has admitted, MN is her main source of support. Therefore wouldn't you want to clear things up to ensure that you were still able to access that support without any sniping?
Like you say though, people react differently.

Errmm...MNHQ you deleted my post. Do you KNOW how long it took to type it?

Regardless of what has happened to the money to the OP etc, I think there's no point 'pursuing' her for an explanation or update, she clearly has no intention of doing either. Those who have donated seems happy enough to do so and hopefully, that £10/£20 would not mean any hardship for those who donated. I firmly believe it's all karma.

However, I do think MNHQ does need to put a guideline in place in relation to cash donations to personal PP/bank account. Yes, it might not prevent a repeat of what happened but it certainly will make another poster think twice about receiving cash from other posters!