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Reply to Justine

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TheOriginalFAB · 18/12/2011 18:46

The first objection I'm afraid I can't really buy - Most of the UK population uses Facebook. Most Mumsnetters use facebook. It's a bit mad to object to facebook on principle - it's like objecting to people.

This is just daft and is irrelevant whether you buy it or not. Just because "most of ths population" use FB doesn't mean everyone on MN is going to like it. It is like saying you don't buy that some people won't eat meat as the majority of the population are not vegetarian/vegan. And it is nothing like objecting to people Hmm

The second objection I just think is misguided, as I've explained. Users' privacy is no more compromised by this button than it ever was.

It might not be "no more compromised" than before but the point is it is much more visable now and before people might not have been aware of the link button but now they are and they don't like it.

So should we change something because some people on this thread dislike it even if we think they are mistaken to dislike it? Even though what they are objecting to is already in place?

You may think we are mistaken not to like it but we are part of MN and without posters you just have a website with adverts no one sees. And the fact that it is already in place is not the issue. Before lots of posters weren't aware of it so couldn't object.

I've been doing this long enough to know that new things are never well-received - but it doesn't always mean they are bad.

That comes across as patronising and lots of posters are telling you this is a "bad" idea and lots of people don't like it.

For me this is a huge loss as I feel unable to discuss something I would have appreciated help with and that makes me feel sad. And namechanging doesn't work for me as someone always guesses who I am and outs me.

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thebigkahuna · 18/12/2011 18:54

Oh fgs I can't believe people are getting so aerated about this.

If this thing has upset you to this extent then you need to take a good long look at your life and have a think about if Mumsnet is taking up slightly more of your time than it should.

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TheOriginalFAB · 18/12/2011 19:02

I don't need to look at my life. I already know I have been coming on here too much and have cut down.

I think people might be more fed up about MNHQ's attitude to our feelings about this than anything else atm.

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PeggyCarter · 18/12/2011 19:06

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thebigkahuna · 18/12/2011 19:10

Three words:

total non event.

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TheOriginalFAB · 18/12/2011 19:13

The thread in site stuff with 1000 posts.

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PeggyCarter · 18/12/2011 19:16

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smallwhitecat · 18/12/2011 19:17

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bluegnueboo · 18/12/2011 19:18

Well that's that then. A few posters out of the thousands of mn'ers whinge so HQ should change their policy???

Honestly people, get a grip.

And any one who is so convinced of their "signature" tone is narcissistic to say the least. Either that or they've got an attitude that needs looking at.

Name changing for lesser mortals is always an option.

ElfandSafety · 18/12/2011 19:21

I think people are massively overeacting to this like button, if you don't like it,don't click it. Simples.
Fwiw, I namecharge very regually because for many reasons I don't want to be identifiable, mainly because if I listed all that was going on you'd have me down as a massive troller.

Hulababy · 18/12/2011 19:25

Is it because other people could click LIKE on sensitive threads and them then appear on FB? And obviously the OP can't control what others do - but equally may not what their more senstive threads publically declared on FB.

If so, could the option be removed from more sensitive sections such as relationships, health, and such?

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TheOriginalFAB · 18/12/2011 19:30

I am not narcissic or have an attitude but have been found out when I have name changed previously. It is just a fact.

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ElfandSafety · 18/12/2011 19:39

I dunno, like I said lots of crap going on here but I only post very selectively about one issue then namechange.
That generally makes me less identifiable. I am incredibly paranoid and would hate for anyone to know what I was thinking half the time.
I think it would be difficult to be a prolific poster with the same name if they only posting about their problems iyswim, certainly would be noticed all the more than if just posting nonsence :)

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TheOriginalFAB · 18/12/2011 19:45

Point taken.

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Get0rf · 18/12/2011 19:49

I was a bit frothy about the like button, but since I have found out that there has been a FB link button on the teleport viewy thingy for nearly a year, I shut up about it. The like button isn't really changing anything, I have learned, so is all a storm in a teacup in my view.

I agree FAB that Justine's comment that 'most people are on FB' is erroneous but apart from that her response was well thought out.

Fact is - it would be death to MN to have a narrow band of regulars who they pander to (not that will stop me from blathering on about things I would like changed!). They need new blood all the time to keep the site fresh and current. So as much as I would resist all the 'pandering to the lurkers' stuff, I can totally agree why MNHQ want to do so.

I would suggest that you just namechange every mobth, FAB.

thisisyesterday · 18/12/2011 19:50

does the "like" button not simply post a thread to facebook?

it doesn't "out" anyone.

all of those threads are online for anyone to read anyway. and anyone could link any of them to facebook right?

if you're very concerned about people reading what you write then perhaps a public forum is not the place for writing it??
this is NOT a private place, anyone searching google (or many, many other places) can access anything you have written here.

people linking threads to facebook really makes no difference does it?
it doesn't link your username to your facebook profile does it?

thisisyesterday · 18/12/2011 19:51

is there a reason why you haven't addressed Justine on the thread in question? bit weird to start another thread about it no?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/12/2011 19:52

I think FAB is making some good points. I'm not particularly happy about the newly-prominant FB button either. What bothers me most is the fact that there was a consultation process - well, a thread where users' opinions were asked on the 'FB Like' button on individual posts, and if I recall correctly, the overwhelming opinion on that thread against this idea. Now, to me, a FB Like button on threads is not that different to one on individual posts, and MNHQ could have extrapolated from the consultation thread that people wouldn't be happy with this either, but went ahead without consulting their users.

To me, this shows a lack of respect and consideration for us, and that's what has upset me.

MudAndGlitter · 18/12/2011 19:53

Just don't click the like button!

DutchOma · 18/12/2011 19:55

Thread was full Thisisyesterday. 1000 posts and most people not very happy about the Facebook link.

thisisyesterday · 18/12/2011 19:56

ahhh ok, thanks

thisisyesterday · 18/12/2011 19:57

I think there must be something I am missing here though if it has caused such uproar.

what are people worried about?

if I clicked "like" on this thread what is going to happen?

Akiram · 18/12/2011 19:58

But at least now people know if a thread has been linked to FB so if you are concerned that someone on FB might know someone who knows someone who knows you then you can discuss with MNHQ about having the thread deleted and you can namechange. Before this you had no idea how many times your threads appeared on FB.

Akiram · 18/12/2011 19:59

thisis it will appear on your FB wall.

TheLightPassenger · 18/12/2011 20:02

To be fair to fab, she is a recognisable poster, whether it's due to backstory or style of writing, I have recognised her under other names in the past, it's not some wild narcissism for her to be concerned about this.

thebigkahuna · 18/12/2011 20:03

" (there was) a thread where users' opinions were asked on the 'FB Like' button on individual posts, and if I recall correctly, the overwhelming opinion on that thread against this idea. Now, to me, a FB Like button on threads is not that different to one on individual posts"

See now, my understanding of these two things are that they are totally different.

One - the first one, a like button on individual posts would be so that a MNer could 'like' a post on a thread. So I could 'like' your post right there, SDTG and it would say "thebigkahuna likes this". No interaction with facebook whatsoever. Just copying some of the functionality that facebook has.

The second, ability to like a thread on facebook is a totally different thing. Nothing would show on mumsnet to say I liked it but my facebook profile (not thebigkahuna, but my RL name) would hold a link to a thread.

So, to my mind, they are quite different things. One is simply copying functionality and the other is linking a MN thread to a facebook identity.

Not that I'm bothered about either of these things, tbh, but that was my understanding and I'm wondering if I was wrong on that and it was something different that was proposed?

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