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Being open about penis size with male partners

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BobOn · 28/06/2023 23:26

Just wondering how many people are open about penis size preferences with their male partners?

DW is now very open about what she likes, however it’s taken her years to get over the “lie to protect his fragile male ego” upbringing.

We now have a much better sex life as a result.

so, for women that have a preference, just wondering how open you are about this? or for blokes, do you feel you’d want to know?

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Gymbunny2025 · 14/02/2025 17:38

Presumably being bald is a visual for being old (in general terms) which is why women don't find it attractive? Everything we (men and women) do find attractive tends to be associated with youth.

I'm surprised the bald men are becoming rarer as most will have married/had kids before they become bald?!

HelmholtzWatson · 15/02/2025 08:15

AVlow · 14/02/2025 09:57

A finnish newspaper called Yle quoted a recent study. Can’t remember the name of the study. They just stated that women are not attracted to bald men. But yes for companionship women look for other aspects. But in terms of short term hot sex, which usually takes place around the fertile phase of the month, women choose men that are attractive.

for me I don’t really care about studies or articles. Being both bald and having a too small penis, I gave up on dating 4-5 years ago. And reading threads like these just serve to assure myself of having made the right decision since there is nothing to gain for guys like me on the dating market. And no, I have nothing against women at all. Just a bit disappointed at God or evolution or whatever. But life is short and there are other things to enjoy and do while we are here.

Men have it so much better than women on the dating market. Men value 2 things much higher than women do - youth and beauty. Both of these decline through age, and women can do very little about either.

Meanwhile, women judge men on a variety of factors - intelligence, kindness parenting skills, wealth and yes attractiveness. These are all things that can be improved on through life.

But yes, there were many men who "gave up" on these things in the past. However, none of these men left any offspring to inherit these (lack of) characteristics.

Applesandpears0 · 15/02/2025 09:28

HelmholtzWatson · 15/02/2025 08:15

Men have it so much better than women on the dating market. Men value 2 things much higher than women do - youth and beauty. Both of these decline through age, and women can do very little about either.

Meanwhile, women judge men on a variety of factors - intelligence, kindness parenting skills, wealth and yes attractiveness. These are all things that can be improved on through life.

But yes, there were many men who "gave up" on these things in the past. However, none of these men left any offspring to inherit these (lack of) characteristics.

i’m sorry but what? What a load of tosh.

women can do very little about attractiveness? With make up and cosmetic surgery, I’d argue that it’s much harder for an average looking man to look attractive. An average looking women can very easily become attractive.

and men absolutely judge women on kindness and other factors that you’ve mentioned.

Men 100% do NOT have it easier on the dating market - for one thing there’s roughly I women for every 3 men on the dating apps…..

AVlow · 15/02/2025 10:08

HelmholtzWatson · 15/02/2025 08:15

Men have it so much better than women on the dating market. Men value 2 things much higher than women do - youth and beauty. Both of these decline through age, and women can do very little about either.

Meanwhile, women judge men on a variety of factors - intelligence, kindness parenting skills, wealth and yes attractiveness. These are all things that can be improved on through life.

But yes, there were many men who "gave up" on these things in the past. However, none of these men left any offspring to inherit these (lack of) characteristics.

How is that? Yes you are right about what men value. But women discard 90 % of men on dating apps. Trust me I’ve tried with professional help. Most guys I know get nothing on the apps. Men are becoming more and more lonely. The incel community is growing with all problems that brings. Men will in general choose anything on a 3-8 scale. Higher than 8 we think that we stand no chance. Women on the contrary go for 7.5-10 only. Most women I know have casual sex when they want and they have men lined up for relationships. I know no woman that is sexless. So no, it is not easier for men. The fact that women don’t want most of the offers is another discussion. Most men wish for just a few offers to begin with. Not to talk about the rock solid confidence and no room for any insecurity, that you need to approach a woman and then do exactly the right steps all the way. In many ways much harder than most things in life. So many men give up.

and then its true that women look for kindness, good fathers, character etc. that is for the husband material. The sort of guy that women jump in bed with for one hot night during the right time of the month, he is generally very attractive, tall, muscular, a bit of a narcisist, and with a bigger dick preferably. Most guys want to be that guy because as a man its not fun to know that you are a good conversationalist and partner whilst not being the guy she selected in the past for hot orgasmic monkey sex.

  • how a vagina looks etc, makes no difference for sexual satisfaction. I could not tell the difference between the women I’ve been with, contrary to women, judging by this thread..

The Evolution of Desire by dr. David Buss explains the differences between men quite well.

MaryJean87 · 15/02/2025 10:17

AVlow · 15/02/2025 10:08

How is that? Yes you are right about what men value. But women discard 90 % of men on dating apps. Trust me I’ve tried with professional help. Most guys I know get nothing on the apps. Men are becoming more and more lonely. The incel community is growing with all problems that brings. Men will in general choose anything on a 3-8 scale. Higher than 8 we think that we stand no chance. Women on the contrary go for 7.5-10 only. Most women I know have casual sex when they want and they have men lined up for relationships. I know no woman that is sexless. So no, it is not easier for men. The fact that women don’t want most of the offers is another discussion. Most men wish for just a few offers to begin with. Not to talk about the rock solid confidence and no room for any insecurity, that you need to approach a woman and then do exactly the right steps all the way. In many ways much harder than most things in life. So many men give up.

and then its true that women look for kindness, good fathers, character etc. that is for the husband material. The sort of guy that women jump in bed with for one hot night during the right time of the month, he is generally very attractive, tall, muscular, a bit of a narcisist, and with a bigger dick preferably. Most guys want to be that guy because as a man its not fun to know that you are a good conversationalist and partner whilst not being the guy she selected in the past for hot orgasmic monkey sex.

  • how a vagina looks etc, makes no difference for sexual satisfaction. I could not tell the difference between the women I’ve been with, contrary to women, judging by this thread..

The Evolution of Desire by dr. David Buss explains the differences between men quite well.

Got to say though that the quality of men on the dating apps was absolutely diabolical. Called frigid for turning them down, repeatedly messaging demanding sexuao conversation, unsolicited dick pics. Maybe that's why they're not having a good time of it. There were some decent men on there, it just seemed the majority were somehow lacking in either physical looks or intellectually. I met my DH on there but I had to dodge a lot of shit. Don't blame women for incels. We don't owe any man anything.

AVlow · 15/02/2025 10:34

MaryJean87 · 15/02/2025 10:17

Got to say though that the quality of men on the dating apps was absolutely diabolical. Called frigid for turning them down, repeatedly messaging demanding sexuao conversation, unsolicited dick pics. Maybe that's why they're not having a good time of it. There were some decent men on there, it just seemed the majority were somehow lacking in either physical looks or intellectually. I met my DH on there but I had to dodge a lot of shit. Don't blame women for incels. We don't owe any man anything.

I blamed nobody. It’s the typical argument nowadays. No you don’t owe men anything and just like that we owe women nothing. A woman here said that we men have it easier. And I said no we don’t cause more and more men are lonely, including the incels. You just confirmed it with your post. Me and my friends have sent no sexual pictures or comments. We don’t get matches. Only a good looking friend of mine get matches and he has regular dates. Us average looking are all single. And as you said, you match with the guys that are attractive (1-3 %) and then you discard those who send strange texts. So presumably 1-2 % are “good men”. Me and the other 96 % are not even considered.

that is reality. Says nothing about women owing anything to men. Just as we owe 0 to women. You want the top 1 % looking guys with the big dicks? Good for you. And DiCaprio wants the hot young fertile girls? Good for him. Nobody owes nobody nothing in 2025. Wonderful new world we live in :)

NotAndyT · 15/02/2025 16:03

@Gymbunny2025

20yrs ago I would have agreed with you certainly the media and marketing still push the youth is best narrative particularly at women but from my own perspective there has been a shift in confident older women that have thrown there original catch back in the sea and are hot to trot so to speak.

There are a few well kept guys around but I’ve also noticed how many in my own age bracket (50) make zero effort with their appearance and fashion,even personal hygiene 🤢whilst their partners are still attractive or they themselves have been thrown back and are wondering why and why they can’t get dates.

Getting fit, healthy upto date confident (but not a dick) and competent is the way forward and is the incel antidote

Isitsixoclockalready · 15/02/2025 18:15

MaryJean87 · 15/02/2025 10:17

Got to say though that the quality of men on the dating apps was absolutely diabolical. Called frigid for turning them down, repeatedly messaging demanding sexuao conversation, unsolicited dick pics. Maybe that's why they're not having a good time of it. There were some decent men on there, it just seemed the majority were somehow lacking in either physical looks or intellectually. I met my DH on there but I had to dodge a lot of shit. Don't blame women for incels. We don't owe any man anything.

I've never understood why men think that women are going to get excited at receiving explicit messages or requests from them on dating websites. Obviously there are sites that accommodate people looking for straightforward hook-ups but on a regular dating site, it just comes across as arrogant and/or rather stupid.

AVlow · 15/02/2025 18:15

NotAndyT · 15/02/2025 16:03

@Gymbunny2025

20yrs ago I would have agreed with you certainly the media and marketing still push the youth is best narrative particularly at women but from my own perspective there has been a shift in confident older women that have thrown there original catch back in the sea and are hot to trot so to speak.

There are a few well kept guys around but I’ve also noticed how many in my own age bracket (50) make zero effort with their appearance and fashion,even personal hygiene 🤢whilst their partners are still attractive or they themselves have been thrown back and are wondering why and why they can’t get dates.

Getting fit, healthy upto date confident (but not a dick) and competent is the way forward and is the incel antidote

Men of all ages are and have always been drawn to women in their 20s. Since fertility is the highest at that age. Now social norms make this taboo and shame men for that.

but regardless, I take good care of myself. I have the physique of a fighter as I both train martial arts and hit the gym. I dress well since I like it and I have a great job, I am extroverted and social. It’s just that being bald women stopped showing interest in me. And yeah if I tried I can surely get women that are willing to go for my offer even though they don’t like my looks, but what fun is it in being used? + in bed I don’t measure up so in the end it’s like investing in a car that will blow up sooner or later.

NotAndyT · 15/02/2025 22:09

How old are you? Honestly reassess your perceived value. If you’re feeling like you do go older. Was with a newly divorced colleague last week 62 fit healthy attractive not had sex for 5+ years no oral for 15 libido coming back.

Baldness least of her criteria. Someone nice fun and interesting who doesn’t want a house maid.

Bitterness is unattractive and women who have been burnt before can smell it a mile off .

Genuinely learn to breath through your ears and get back out there xx

Truthbetolddd · 15/02/2025 22:23

namechangedyorkshire · 29/06/2023 05:36

Not easy no. I have been with one. I suppose it isn't easy to be honest unless the man you are with matches what I like, as otherwise all he is left with is a bruised ego. I like large (not too large) but I love circumcised. The only one that matched that was 7-8 inches (I didn't measure it) and fully circumcised. I did tell him how lovely his was and genuinely what I loved. Felt amazing. He was pretty happy as well

I told my partner when we got together how I loved to use an uncut cock to my advantage and lick and suck on there foreskin but after a while I get to love his cut cock but because I said that he is so paranoid about it. He has always had a complex about being cut though before I met him.

Truthbetolddd · 15/02/2025 22:25

QueenVixen · 29/06/2023 12:19

I probably wouldn’t have known any different until my husband bought me a girthy dildo, the stretching sensation feels amazing, he uses it on me and loves seeing my reaction. It’s girth that does it for me, not length.

Out of interest what dildo is it you have ?

Truthbetolddd · 15/02/2025 22:27

BobOn · 29/06/2023 13:38

In terms of why to tell your male partner, my experience has been extremely positive as part of the relationship.

I knew that what I was being told didn't tally with reality:

She would say "you're the perfect size for me" yet PIV with a moderately larger toy causing her to groan and gasp in delight, increasing as the size stepped up. Orgasm intensity and strength also increased.

I'm naturally very curious and quite a boyant person and don't have penis insecurity, although I did when I was younger.

When she revealed the size of the smallest she'd been with I was gob-smacked at the physical difference. Being able to stand there and see things from her perspective was quite shocking - a standard can of squirty cream compared to a mini-travel can of antiperspirant.

The advantage for both of us is she can be direct about what works and what doesn't. How I need to angle toys, speed and depth of use...

For me it's very empowering to be able "swap cocks" - I feel like some kind of powerful sex-cyborg 😄 It's also pretty awesome to be able to look down and see "my" huge swinging cock and re-learn how to "do it".

Don't get me wrong, I know that an artificial cock isn't the same as the real thing in terms of feel, heat and connection, however, it's still pretty damn good!

Out of curiosity what toys do you have ?

HelmholtzWatson · 16/02/2025 06:03

Applesandpears0 · 15/02/2025 09:28

i’m sorry but what? What a load of tosh.

women can do very little about attractiveness? With make up and cosmetic surgery, I’d argue that it’s much harder for an average looking man to look attractive. An average looking women can very easily become attractive.

and men absolutely judge women on kindness and other factors that you’ve mentioned.

Men 100% do NOT have it easier on the dating market - for one thing there’s roughly I women for every 3 men on the dating apps…..

Dating apps =/= dating market.

Plus, women can make themselves look more attractive with make up, but it's still really easy to tell how old they are. Plus, they can't wear it all the time and at some point the rubber has to meet the road.

HelmholtzWatson · 16/02/2025 06:14

AVlow · 15/02/2025 10:08

How is that? Yes you are right about what men value. But women discard 90 % of men on dating apps. Trust me I’ve tried with professional help. Most guys I know get nothing on the apps. Men are becoming more and more lonely. The incel community is growing with all problems that brings. Men will in general choose anything on a 3-8 scale. Higher than 8 we think that we stand no chance. Women on the contrary go for 7.5-10 only. Most women I know have casual sex when they want and they have men lined up for relationships. I know no woman that is sexless. So no, it is not easier for men. The fact that women don’t want most of the offers is another discussion. Most men wish for just a few offers to begin with. Not to talk about the rock solid confidence and no room for any insecurity, that you need to approach a woman and then do exactly the right steps all the way. In many ways much harder than most things in life. So many men give up.

and then its true that women look for kindness, good fathers, character etc. that is for the husband material. The sort of guy that women jump in bed with for one hot night during the right time of the month, he is generally very attractive, tall, muscular, a bit of a narcisist, and with a bigger dick preferably. Most guys want to be that guy because as a man its not fun to know that you are a good conversationalist and partner whilst not being the guy she selected in the past for hot orgasmic monkey sex.

  • how a vagina looks etc, makes no difference for sexual satisfaction. I could not tell the difference between the women I’ve been with, contrary to women, judging by this thread..

The Evolution of Desire by dr. David Buss explains the differences between men quite well.

No wonder you're failing if you have used "professional help" for dating apps. Expand your social circle, work on your self-esteem and try to meet women away from dating apps. I guy I know who is very ordinary looking and skinny joined a running club recently, and 2 months later he's dating a woman who is at least a 9. He's not even that confident or outgoing but he kind and genuine, and I'm guessing let things develop over time without forcing them.

And if women only go for 8s, why do the vast majority of men (I think it's around 75%; 80% for women) in the west find themselves partnered up with children at some stage in their life?

Gymbunny2025 · 16/02/2025 07:23

NotAndyT · 15/02/2025 22:09

How old are you? Honestly reassess your perceived value. If you’re feeling like you do go older. Was with a newly divorced colleague last week 62 fit healthy attractive not had sex for 5+ years no oral for 15 libido coming back.

Baldness least of her criteria. Someone nice fun and interesting who doesn’t want a house maid.

Bitterness is unattractive and women who have been burnt before can smell it a mile off .

Genuinely learn to breath through your ears and get back out there xx

The couple of 60 plus women dating that I know still want to find their partner attractive though. And if (for example) they don't find bald men attractive, then that would apply whether he was 50 or 60. Both do prefer younger men though tbf!

Lots of women do like the shaved head look though!

AVlow · 16/02/2025 09:14

Gymbunny2025 · 16/02/2025 07:23

The couple of 60 plus women dating that I know still want to find their partner attractive though. And if (for example) they don't find bald men attractive, then that would apply whether he was 50 or 60. Both do prefer younger men though tbf!

Lots of women do like the shaved head look though!

I’m 33. In my early 20s I had no problem but when I started shaving it got worse and at 30 I stopped getting any interest from women, except for occasional looks from women 25 years older than me, and I am not interested in that. Anyway I had problems with my size anyway and my ex cheated on me 5 times for bigger D. That was it for me. I’ve since studied evolutionary psychology and sexuality for hundreds of hours and I use these forum threads to confirm it all since what women write here is completely the opposite to what I’ve heard in person. I’m not bitter though, used to be. Now I have other things in life that I enjoy, + I will never face the divorces, family disruption etc etc, that modern dating in the west entails a nowadays.

  • I don’t think most men in their 40s + have relationships. Could it be that you only see your female partners at that age having partners?

around 20 - 30 % of men under 30 get no action whatsoever, and that figure is increasing as young womens standards get higher day by day. And I know a lot of divorced guys in their 50s and older that never managed to find someone new. Suicide rates are way higher in men, and most of them are lonely. In fact there is a somewhat of a suicide epidemic in the uk among men that gets no coverage. And hardcore feminists will say its the old school macho masculinity that leads to that. But then I ask myself, why has those rates increased over the last 30 years? And why is it not the assertive “toxic men” that kill themselves then? They seem to be doing quite well by the looks of it.

and to be clear once again. I don’t blame women, I have nothing against women. Or men. It’s a strange world we live in nowadays and if anything I am critical of that.

Applesandpears0 · 16/02/2025 09:41

AVlow · 16/02/2025 09:14

I’m 33. In my early 20s I had no problem but when I started shaving it got worse and at 30 I stopped getting any interest from women, except for occasional looks from women 25 years older than me, and I am not interested in that. Anyway I had problems with my size anyway and my ex cheated on me 5 times for bigger D. That was it for me. I’ve since studied evolutionary psychology and sexuality for hundreds of hours and I use these forum threads to confirm it all since what women write here is completely the opposite to what I’ve heard in person. I’m not bitter though, used to be. Now I have other things in life that I enjoy, + I will never face the divorces, family disruption etc etc, that modern dating in the west entails a nowadays.

  • I don’t think most men in their 40s + have relationships. Could it be that you only see your female partners at that age having partners?

around 20 - 30 % of men under 30 get no action whatsoever, and that figure is increasing as young womens standards get higher day by day. And I know a lot of divorced guys in their 50s and older that never managed to find someone new. Suicide rates are way higher in men, and most of them are lonely. In fact there is a somewhat of a suicide epidemic in the uk among men that gets no coverage. And hardcore feminists will say its the old school macho masculinity that leads to that. But then I ask myself, why has those rates increased over the last 30 years? And why is it not the assertive “toxic men” that kill themselves then? They seem to be doing quite well by the looks of it.

and to be clear once again. I don’t blame women, I have nothing against women. Or men. It’s a strange world we live in nowadays and if anything I am critical of that.

And you say you’re not bitter….

you sound like you e completly given up; which is unattractive in itself, and there will be an invisible barrier between you and women which they will see and run a mile.

There’s so much you can do, to make yourself look and feel better. Get a hairpiece for a start if you really believe women don’t like bold men, but change your attidtude and you’ll see a whole new side to dating.

AVlow · 16/02/2025 09:51

Applesandpears0 · 16/02/2025 09:41

And you say you’re not bitter….

you sound like you e completly given up; which is unattractive in itself, and there will be an invisible barrier between you and women which they will see and run a mile.

There’s so much you can do, to make yourself look and feel better. Get a hairpiece for a start if you really believe women don’t like bold men, but change your attidtude and you’ll see a whole new side to dating.

Thanks! But feeling good nowadays as a man in terms of women being attracted to you is a joke. + I think women are rational. Feeling good about myself will not change anything during sex. I’m sure most of the guys talked about here felt great about themselves although they didn’t measure up. I was confident and funny when I met my ex. Everything was great except for my size.

if size surgery becomes available for men then I might change my mind. Because being ugly without hair sucks, but hair doesn’t push against nerve endings so I could live with that if I was bigger. Otherwise I’m out for life.

Just watch the top rated series for women on netflix. 365 days, sex /life to name a few. All about getting rid of your average joe of a man for a better looking guy with a big willy. :)

Applesandpears0 · 16/02/2025 13:39

I watched the Peter crouch documentary on Netflix, he said he used humour when he was younger because he was bullied for the way he looked.

look at him now-proof that less attractive men CAN get attractive women.

in terms of your size, I’ll admit threads like these don’t help men with smaller penises, some of the responses are pretty brutal, but size is not the be all and end all for ALL women. Those that judge a man by his size, probably aren’t worth pursuing anyway.

Look at the perimeter pro, if you really are that down about your size.

https://www.mypelvichealth.co.uk/en/men/erectile-penile-health/penile-lengthening/penimaster-pro/

i used this when I had Peyronies; for almost a year, it’s not comfortable ( as you would imagine ) but if used daily (8 hours ) then you will get a little
bigger without the need for surgery. From
memory I added nuts over an inch over the course a year in readiness for my implant surgery.

Snoozysnoozy · 16/02/2025 14:36

look at him now-proof that less attractive men CAN get attractive women.

What first attracted you to multimillionaire....? 🤔🤔🤔

NotAndyT · 16/02/2025 14:41

@Snoozysnoozy

At 6 ft 7 inch There is a good chance his big knob helps too😉

Gymbunny2025 · 16/02/2025 14:42

Peter crouch is not unattractive!! And he's lovely and tall...

Applesandpears0 · 16/02/2025 15:23

@Snoozysnoozy - he was not a multi millionaire when she met him. Yes he had money, but let’s be honest , she could have had any footballer she wanted but she choose crouchy.

@Gymbunny2025 - I agree, he’s actually quite a good looking dude now, but look at him when he was in his 20’s - definitely not what most would class as attractive - and 6’7 and 70kg….😂

EarthSight · 16/02/2025 19:10

BobOn · 29/06/2023 11:26

Oh, and before anyone chips in with comments about "wizard's sleeves" or waving a flag in space, her Kegels are excellent.

I can and do give her vaginal orgasms through PIV, however, they are far more intense with a toy that's the right size for her.

I didn’t have to be dishonest with my previous partner because I was very happy with his. There's pros & cons to girthier ones. One of the cons is that they have less room to move in there, which means it's more difficult for them to 'point'. I imagine they mainly move & out, but not so good at moving in different directions and hit different spots.

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