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I spent Monday morning at a BDSM dungeon. AMA

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DukeOfBurgundy · 12/07/2018 10:21

Anything about BDSM-y stuff, really.

I'd probably describe myself as a sub. Although I'm mostly a masochist. I just like being spanked with stuff really hard.

The "dungeon" was exclusive use for me and my boyfriend from 10-2. Had a lovely time. It's the second time we've been there.

I've done BDSM "clubs" a few times. But I don't get anything from exhibitionism/voyeurism. Just enjoyed the spanking benches etc. Much prefer having the equipment all for our own use.

Ask me anything.

OP posts:
AdventuresRUs · 17/07/2018 06:45

(Curious as I got in a pickle only wanting relationships but trying to find someone who understood D/s was hard and ended up in a vanilla one! I still crave it.)

usedtobedomme · 17/07/2018 06:46

I met my partner on a train.

usedtobedomme · 17/07/2018 06:46

My D/s partner I mean.

Dommina · 17/07/2018 06:57

Don't have much more to add but I'm a Domme too and just wanted to say I love the representation BDSM it's getting on here lately!

Bluntness100 · 17/07/2018 07:27

Ayn, sorry, my comment wasn't to you, it was to the other poster, "pause something" your comments have been really interesting and informative.

I'm still not sure anyone posting goes as far as the op does, or am I mistaken in that?

usedtobedomme · 17/07/2018 07:39

Bluntness none of us know. I’ve had sessions where I’ve hit my partner for 3 hours with various implements. But it’s all about how hard and what with - I could hit you for half an hour with a flogger and make it feel like a deep tissue massage or I could hit you for half an hour with a flogger and have you screaming.

I could whip you so gently it wouldn’t burst a balloon or slice your back with each stroke.

I could cane you enough to make you jump and leave a red mark or enough to welt and make you bleed.

usedtobedomme · 17/07/2018 08:19

I’ve re read the op. She just talks about being well spanked. I have definitely done that. Being a bit sore afterwards. I have definitely done that.

mustbemad17 · 17/07/2018 08:20

Bluntness we played as vigorously as the OP before I fell pregnant. Never in a dungeon, i'm intrigued by the idea of renting one! But the intensity is not anything outrageous ime

MiniTheMinx · 17/07/2018 08:22

AdventuresRUs, I have always had a sort of antenna, I can tell. I don't mean I can look round a room and find a practiced Dom, I can tell if a man is naturally inclined to be dominant, by the way they behave. Little things like holding the door open and where he placed his hands on my back, the amount of pressure, the way he handles other people in the environment, body language can tell you a lot if you watch. He was confident, assured, he knows how to speak to people, how to influence, how to get things done, completely attentive to me. I flirted making little jokes about being a brat, he responded by saying I'd go over his knee, and various other stuff, but it was more about the dynamic than sex. He's intelligent, emotionally intelligent, articulate and attentive.

He's never had a relationship with a sub. He's never been on the scene. He has developed over time, he has learned me. Like all people he has his issues, but he dealt with it, he is very protective of me and he listens and responds to me. He has always done exactly what he says he will do.

When I was at uni the first day this very stunning woman said "let's go for coffee later" very direct. Two hrs later she says "you are a sub" out of nowhere. She is too. She has this same ability to read people. She's now one of my dearest friends and I hope she finds a home, because she's a bit lost. And until you meet the right person you don't really know just how lost you were. Like a lot of people wired up this way it's not easy to find the right person, and find love.

Took me until I was 40 to be honest with myself. I've been extremely fortunate to be so happy. And despite being submissive, I've never been treated badly by any man, and in day to day life I'm assertive and anything but fluffy!

lynmilne65 · 17/07/2018 08:25

No, I have a life !

MiniTheMinx · 17/07/2018 08:40

Bluntness, yes it seems extreme. Would I? No.

In terms of psychology and your constant demand to know if people have been abused, I'd say you'd have to ask each individual. I haven't.

But women are socialised from an early age to be people pleasers, to be submissive. It's no accident that this process effects the psychosexual make up of women. Even the act of penetration, it's active, it's about doing, it's violent, our experience is one of having stuff done to us, of being vulnerable, being open, being penetrated. For some women the process of psychological formation that takes place as we adapt to reality, and the process of socialisation leads to women who are passive, or wanting to indiscriminately please others, or women who pick abusers, women who have few boundaries, women who in day to day life are not assertive. Or sometimes they are quite confident, assertive, centred, strong, would kick any bully to the curb but are sexually submissive.

BentOutOfShape · 17/07/2018 09:02

I see where bluntness is coming from with her reservations about this. I'm all for a bit of fun during sex but hours of doing something very painful sounds unsettling to me. I'd worry about the effect on you normal sex life. Surely you end up having to get more and more extreme and however you dress it up wanting to be beaten for hours is extreme.

I have had the same partner for years and years and we have what I'm sure others would describe as a vanilla sex life but I love it. It's fun and loving. It's not boring to us. We've been doing it about once a week for the last 35 years so I figure we are doing something right. I can't think we have ever had bad sex.

I do get that there can be a pleasure to some types of pain though. I guess that's a bit weird but I can see it. I enjoy it when I have a deep tissue massage and it verges on being painful.

Bluntness100 · 17/07/2018 09:27

I guess what I'm basically being told is some people get turned on by being hit really hard with heavy objects and there is nothing fucked Up that made them want this,

Do I find it disturbing, of course I do. The thought of a man hitting a naked vulnerable woman with a heavy object really hard is deeply disturbing for most people. No matter how much she wants to be hit. That the man is hitting the woman not for his own pleasure primarily but for hers.

Do I accept it. No I don't, I'm sorry I find it as fucked up as it gets. I get the people involved in this don't feel it's fucked up or agree with me, but there it is.

People being beaten by heavy objects and both sides being turned on by it, is never going to be something I find understandable. Each to their own, and I get the people doing it don't feel it's fucked up and think I just don't understand as I'm not into being hit hard with heavy objects myself. They would be right, I'm not into it and find the thought of it deeply disconcerting, I'm sorry,

bananafish81 · 17/07/2018 09:36

Do I find it disturbing, of course I do. The thought of a man hitting a naked vulnerable woman with a heavy object really hard is deeply disturbing for most people. No matter how much she wants to be hit. That the man is hitting the woman not for his own pleasure primarily but for hers.

So what about the domme women on this thread hitting men in the same way?

usedtobedomme · 17/07/2018 09:48

What about me Bluntness?

GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 09:50

I can't speak for anyone else but personally yes, I find it disturbing whatever the sex of the people involved.

And I say that as someone who used to participate in this (as both sub and domme, but mainly sub).

rememberatime · 17/07/2018 10:02

I have experienced this a couple of time-s and am surprised at how pleasurable it has been. I never thought I would like the feeling of pain, but my body reacts in the same way as an orgasm to pain that takes me to the edge and is then released. My body is flooded with endorphins and I feel very very calm.

My partner takes me in his arms and soothes me and makes me feel very safe. he checks constantly I am ok and he never does anything without my agreement. For me, it is very mild (thus far) and very addictive.

Yes, I am sore and even bruised for a few days afterwards, but even that adds to the experience. I have reminders of the feelings which give me pleasure days later.

I'm a grown woman and very much able to differentiate between a man who cares about me and one who wants to treat me badly. This man cares, to the extent he wants to give me what I want.

there are incredible amounts of respect and care in these relationships.

Bluntness100 · 17/07/2018 10:11

If I'm honest I don't think it's about gender really for me. Female on Male is probably easier to take than Male or female, but it's shades of grey, pardon the pun.

It's the simple thought of a human wishing to be hit hard with heavy objects for extended periods, and both the hitter and the person being hit getting sexual pleasure from it. My concern is primarily with the person being hurt.

As said. I have no question about the softer stuff, but if someone says they like to be hit "really hard" with heavy implements, including heavy wooden ones, then tells me they spent hours being repeatedly hit like that, I find it really disturbing and my instinct is to try to understand if that person is ok. If that's what they really want, and to understand why they want someone to hit them like that.

I've had some push back and attacks on here for asking, for trying to drill down into it, but primarily I've had intelligent and thoughtful responses, and it's been an interesting discussion, it's hugely thought provoking in terms of our own biases.

However as yet, I've still be unable to move away from the fact someone's being hurt. Very badly . And being turned on by that. All I can see for the op is a woman who was alone in a room with a man, who hit her really hard with heavy implements for a long time. That's never going to sit well with me.

GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 10:30

Bluntness as I mentioned, i have experience of this, and I think you are right to find it disturbing. It's almost an article of faith within the BDSM community that it's all great and fine with this 'safe, sane. consensual' mantra and that if anyone appears to be mentally ill or vulnerable, they shouldn't be taking part.

But in reality, the people doing this stuff are ALL vulnerable or messed up in some way. Bottom line, it's not good to cause intense physical harm to other people, it's not a good thing to encourage in the person inflicting the harm - and no references to 'topping from the bottom' or claiming the sub is in control, etc. really changes that.

usedtobedomme · 17/07/2018 10:36

Bluntness. Would you go on to a thread about boxing training and keep saying why do you. Boxing is awful it makes me uneasy. Why. Why. Why.

I don't get extreme sports. I would never do them. But I wouldn't go on to a thread about them and keep asking why do u do that you must be so sore afterwards think of the same there must be something wrong in your head to want to do that to yourself. Your abnormal. Psychologically damaged.

Why do you feel the need to keep asking the same question? It's not your thing. No one is going. To make you do it

GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 10:40

usedtobedomme there undoubtedly is something a bit awry in the psychology of those people who do base jumping or other extreme sports with very high injury/death rates.

If one of them started an 'AMA' thread, I'm sure lots of people would question them on that, as Bluntness is doing here.

usedtobedomme · 17/07/2018 10:40

There are abusive people involved in the scene. I'm not messed up. I'm absolutely fine. All my fantasies involved me being v in charge. From before even I knew what a sex fantasy was.

I would never get involved with someone who had MH issues. There is a friend of mine who would have loved me to be in a relationship with him. He's attractive and he's just my type. But he's in a bad head space and I would have been the last thing he needed. So I turned him.down.

mustbemad17 · 17/07/2018 10:55

I suppose i am 'damaged' - history of sexual abuse. Is that the reason i enjoy bdsm? No idea. What i do know is that everything about my interaction with dp is different; yes he hits me with stuff, chokes me, ties me up. But it is ultimately ME in control because the minute i use my safe word everything stops. No ifs, buts or maybes. That's a completely different scenario to some of the abuse i suffered in the past, none of which had me weak at the knees in a good way. DP enjoys the dynamic of knowing how to push me, but it is because he knows that it will bring me pleasure, which in turn brings him pleasure. If it was a soul destroying experience for me he wouldn't do it. And the aftercare - which is hugely important - is an amazing show of love & respect ime. I can quite happily fall asleep after an intense session wrapped in DP's arms whilst he whispers to me & makes sure I feel calm & safe.

Done right it is a far cry from an abusive relationship.

BentOutOfShape · 17/07/2018 10:59

I get that it’s consensual but it’s still ‘pretend’ violence and even pretend rape. That’s just too creepy for me.

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