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I spent Monday morning at a BDSM dungeon. AMA

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DukeOfBurgundy · 12/07/2018 10:21

Anything about BDSM-y stuff, really.

I'd probably describe myself as a sub. Although I'm mostly a masochist. I just like being spanked with stuff really hard.

The "dungeon" was exclusive use for me and my boyfriend from 10-2. Had a lovely time. It's the second time we've been there.

I've done BDSM "clubs" a few times. But I don't get anything from exhibitionism/voyeurism. Just enjoyed the spanking benches etc. Much prefer having the equipment all for our own use.

Ask me anything.

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Kardashianlove · 16/07/2018 21:15

AynRandTheObjectivist no need to apologise. Thank you for taking the time to try and explain. I realise it’s something difficult to understand from the outside.

I think what I’m struggling to get my head around is those saying that the doms only interest is pleasuring the sub. If you said that the dom enjoys hitting/hurting the sub as their main priority and that if it brings the sub pleasure too then that’s a bonus, I would find it a bit easier to get my head round.

I feel like it sort of seems a bit like denial (‘he/she only does it to pleasure me’) when that doesn’t seem to be the case at all as if the pleasure involved something like stroking, they have no interest so they don’t want to pleasure the sub so why phrase it like that? Is it because the way bluntness describes it feels uncomfortable?

Is it concerning that someone wants to be hurt like this and some people want to hurt others or is it just that’s how some people are and there is no reason behind it? What bluntness says about what has brought them to this does make sense though.

I hope I’m not coming across as critical, I really do want to understand if anyone can be bothered taking the time to try and explain (again!). Thanks Smile

usedtobedomme · 16/07/2018 21:21

The sub likes being hit. I like doing the hitting. Yin and Yang.

The Dom/me (please do acknowledge me, I am here on the thread and I am a Domme) has to take care of the sub, they have to talk loads and loads and discuss before and after every scene.

But a masochist gets sexual pleasure from their own pain/humiliation. That's what they like. They LIKE not being allowed to do what they want to, being hit or being told no you can't wear that outfit.

A sadist is the opposite.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 16/07/2018 21:34

If you said that the dom enjoys hitting/hurting the sub as their main priority and that if it brings the sub pleasure too then that’s a bonus, I would find it a bit easier to get my head round.

I can't say that, because it's not true. Someone who just wants to hit, and doesn't really care if their partner likes it or not, is not a dom. They're a bully. A dom strikes someone who desires to be struck, and gets fulfilment from the pain. And they are controlled about it.

Ultimately the dom wants control. When I'm dommed well, it makes me want to return to the dom and please him so I'll get more. It makes me thrill to surrender to him and please him. That's the control - in making me want to please him so that, as usedtobedomme said, he can eventually just give me a look and I'll know he means business. If I didn't get that feeling from him, he wouldn't be my Dom.

I feel like it sort of seems a bit like denial (‘he/she only does it to pleasure me’) when that doesn’t seem to be the case at all as if the pleasure involved something like stroking, they have no interest so they don’t want to pleasure the sub so why phrase it like that? Is it because the way bluntness describes it feels uncomfortable?

Bluntness isn't making me uncomfortable at all (and I don't think she's trying to). She's just continually using the wrong word and it's annoying. I have never assaulted anyone.

It's just a matter of understanding what this pleasure is. Stroking is a pleasurable sensation, and there's no reason you can't do that; domming is not all about pain. But what's also pleasurable is yielding to a stronger power, surrendering your will (if you're submissive, which I am). Inflicting pain is part of asserting that stronger power, and lends it some edge. I submit rarely, but when I do I do it properly. To me, the pain was in part about expressing just how submissive I had become, that I wanted to do this for him. It was a sign of the power to which I was yielding.

In other words, the pleasure is both physical and psychological. So yes, sometimes you find yourself being pushed to things you wouldn't otherwise do, but there's a thrill in that. Did you ever try an activity that you thought you could never do, it was totally unlike you, and then you pushed through, did it and felt incredible?

I find that in most cases, if we hit something I really, honestly, truly did not want on any level (rarely), an internal switch would flip.

WRT OP, she's said that she's more masochist than sub; I'm more sub than masochist. I can see why, if you're deeply into your subspace, you could yearn for more pain than you might normally be able to take. She's more hardcore on pain than I am, but she's also said she's not into certain other things that do it for me.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 16/07/2018 21:36

Sorry usedtobedomme, I'm saying 'dom' because I've only ever been dommed by men, but of course there are Dommes too.

Forgive me, Mistress :)

usedtobedomme · 16/07/2018 21:38

I think it's all about control, giving and receiving of it.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 16/07/2018 21:40

And, on the flip side of that...trust.

usedtobedomme · 16/07/2018 21:42

Yes = to give up control you have to have trust.

mustbemad17 · 16/07/2018 21:46

Sorry usedtobeme, my dom is male so use that as generic.

The dynamics of a sub/dom relationship is hard to explain to someone who isn't into it. People can grasp the idea of someone jumping out of an aeroplane for a buzz, because it's accepted as an extreme sport. I've never jumped out of a plane, but i've done things like abseiling & for me, the adrenaline buzz from a session with my dom far exceeds the one i get from sports. Can't explain why except that i love my pleasure level being in the hands of someone else

Sarahlou63 · 16/07/2018 21:47

What I'm trying to work out is why someone would wish to be hit hard with heavy objects like this for an extended period. What has brought them to this.

Bluntness. Imagine your best ever orgasm. Then imagine it going on and on and on and on until you are floating on a cloud of ecstasy and you can't even remember your name but you KNOW that the person you are with loves you, cherishes you and is watching you so closely that the minute you begin to fall they will catch you and whisper nonsense into your ear as you float back to earth. That's the essence of great BDSM.

mustbemad17 · 16/07/2018 21:50

Sarahlou63 great post

AynRandTheObjectivist · 16/07/2018 21:52

Yes, said much more in a few lines than I could in all my walls of text. I'm sorry, I type fast.

usedtobedomme · 16/07/2018 21:54

Great post sarahlou.

Also want to say that there are people that you play with who it doesn't work with. And that's ok. As an example, There's one sub I used to play with who I enjoyed the play with and we were (still are) great friends but I got massive drops afterwards - huge drops - so I had to stop playing with him. Don't know why, never figured it out.

MaisyPops · 16/07/2018 22:00

Isn't it just like other risk taking behaviours or pushing your limits?

I love the feeling of pain I get after a tough workout. I also know that sometimes I'll ease off if I can't quite be bothered so love it when I have a trainer who will push me past that point. It hurts like hell after but it's also great.

I don't understand why anyone would want to base jump. To me it seems stupid and pointless to risk your life. Natural instinct is to shy away from throwing yourself off cliffs. People who base jump will rave about the adrenaline and the fear and the highs they get.

Different people will get their sexual thrills in different ways. As long as it's safe, sane, legal and consentual who am I to judge?

Pause3FuhFuh · 16/07/2018 22:08

Bluntness, you don't understand it and it seems you never will so why not just give it a rest and accept there are some things in life that you can't wrap your head around. Your constant BUT WHY?! attitude has totally derailed the OP's thread and that's quite rude imo. Start your own thread if you insist on picking apart the absolute bones of the topic.

Bluntness100 · 16/07/2018 22:57

Pause why the attack? There have been some really intelligent responses to my questions. No one else seems to be objecting. Why have you rolled in and attacked me? It's not derailing to ask about the psychology, if you don't like it, move on, start your own thread and ask for all the titiallilating detail. In the meantime the rest of Us will have an intelligent discussion on a highly complex matter.

For the others taking the time, thank you. I still don't get it no, not when it's extreme, and the extremeness is what I struggle with.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 16/07/2018 23:02

Well to be fair, I am objecting to the constant misuse of the word 'assault'.

usedtobedomme · 16/07/2018 23:03

But extreme is what they want. And since the Locke (might be Lock I can’t remember the spelling) case bdsm isn’t treated as assault where there is consent. He was acquitted and the bdsm was likened to a sporting activity. using the word assault repeatedly when there is consent is grossly offensive.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 16/07/2018 23:07

When you get into your subspace, you can take (and want) more pain than you usually can. Pain is highly subjective and it's well documented that if you're anxious and worried, your pain threshold will be lower. This is why some women can even get through childbirth on self-hypnosis alone.

usedtobedomme · 16/07/2018 23:11

Also. My ex - my partner - he totally got off on being hit. He was 6ft4 and built like a tank. I could have hit him all day every day, caned him, and he loved it all of it. He totally got off on it. I never could have hit him hard enough to find his limit.

But he’s a masochist. So what was more effective was humiliation. Control. Because he hated that but craved it. And ultimately got off on that too.

So it’s not all about hitting hard and bruising.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 16/07/2018 23:16

Humiliation, for me, is largely about shedding inhibitions. I hate it on one level but it fulfils me on the other.

I have limits though.

usedtobedomme · 16/07/2018 23:20

He had limits humiliation wise but I never found his limit on the hitty stuff.

I miss it. Can you tell 😂

AynRandTheObjectivist · 16/07/2018 23:22

I would too.

ClandestineAdulation · 16/07/2018 23:32

I’ve been watching this thread with interest and I’m shocked that BDSM still carries so much of a stigma. It may be that it’s been normalised in my sex life so I don’t think too much of it but I’m glad that there are others who understand that it isn’t as a lot of people perceive it to be.

MiniTheMinx · 17/07/2018 00:49

Sarahlou63 has summed it up perfectly.
I have spoken to others about subspace and no one has ever described this, but for me this is exactly what it's like.

Firstly the pain. For me it's real pain, I don't exactly enjoy it, it's not pleasurable exactly, but there is a point at which I feel as though I'm floating. I can't think, my mind feels blank. To start with I'm intensely attuned to what I'm physically feeling but at the point I feel I'm floating I'm not aware of the pain, then my mind goes blank. What happens to me is that I become very emotional. The emotion comes out of nowhere, I usually giggle or cry.

Because subspace is a place for me where I become detached from the physical pain that induced it, and a place where I'm at my most vulnerable mentally, emotionally and physically I have never 'played' I've only had LTR and never been on the scene. I have to trust someone to know me and trust them to understand my reactions and care for me. I have spoken to a few people on the scene, it's all acronyms and apologies. I don't trust it, or them. Safe words aren't much good if you are gagged, safe signs not much use if your bound, and besides once your starting point is a carefully crafted scene it rather looses it's emotional and psychological power. It's not logical to both want to push a limit and to set a hard limit. The real sadists will want to push a limit beyond your comfort zone, they couldn't do otherwise and still enjoy it!

DP is a Dom. For him it's all about my having faith and trust in him. It's about my loyalty and wanting to please him, and it's about possession.

AdventuresRUs · 17/07/2018 06:43

Mini how did you find a Dom if it wasnt through the scene and how did he become a Dom if he didnt play with others?

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