Anti-misogyny classes - have schools lost trust in boys, what went wrong

[Renati]

Why do I feel like the default expectation from boys in schools is that they are a threat so that we need to have these classes in schools.

What went wrong?

We all know and can feel what boys need and want in life to be good brothers, fathers, husbands and people in the community and somehow...instead of reinforcing these things in schools they are going off on a tangent based on what? The manosphere? Seriously? How distracted can an entire government get.

Is the only way out of this backwards caveman style teaching is to homeschool? Boys in school are not given the space to express themselves without first being told the reason the feel the way they feel is...innately probably because they are a person who needs correcting.

This doesn't just affect men, if you provide a society where men grow up resentful of the conditions and expectations set around them, you will have men more resentful for women....and guess what...this does encourage boys to not the become the brothers, fathers and husbands they could be because this is only possible if society creates a safe space for boys to feel secure and validated for their feeling growing up.

My husband, brother and father are all autistic in varying ways and I don't think it would ever occur to them without being told. It's so difficult for most men to understand how unsafe women can feel, empathy is hard for everyone.

if I was walking down the street and heard someone speeding up behind me and looked behind to see a lone male I'd be terrified. Even though I know logically they're probably running for a bus or whatever, it still feels threatening.

You know, the completely unthreatening guy who asked me about this after "me too"? On the spectrum. Only person who thought about bringing it up with me and discussing it as he knew it would be something I'd think about. They might surprise you. I think sometimes the perceptions on empathy around ASD aren't quite right.

I agree with the walking behind and speeding up thing. When I was much younger, daytime but still in a quiet city underpass, someone did that, they walked past me, turned then rushed back up to me. I turned ready to lamp the guy (he had a good 6 inches of height on me). Turned out he wanted to ask me out. I was in fight or flight. Er. No.

So perhaps I'm proving myself wrong there with the empathy thing. Or rather some people definitely lack it but I'm not 100% sure it's a ASD thing.

I agree my 23 yr old autistic adhd is incredibly aware of things like this.

I have raised my boys (still raising younger one) to be aware. We are a ND household, i am diagnosed as are several of children snd one has very complex needs. But actually my autistic adhd sons are incredibly moral, caring, considerate with a hige sense of social justice. And misogynistic behaviours infuriates them.