11+ 2025 support thread #2

[AquaPeer]

we are on the home run now! Continue to support, love and share in this thread

link to previous

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/secondary/5200929-11-2025-support-thread?page=40&reply=147336748

continued good luck to all x

Sorry to hear that, did you sit othet exams too that he could still qualify for ?

I was thinking why are these schools allowing out of catchment places then realised...it benefits them having these top-grade students making their stats look good, so of course they are not complaining or doing much about it.

Someone on elevenplusexams forum said Latymer are now saying not today but Friday or Monday

Yes, hopefully he'll qualify with one of the SWH schools, and the closest is 2 miles away, but it will be a long, long wait as I suspect he might get a place from a waiting list.
Good luck to all of you waiting anxiously for the results!

Just to clarify on this, schools cannot enforce this requirement. The right to take an 11+ exam for anywhere in the country is enshrined in law (it's known as the Greenwich Judgment). However schools can have as an admissions criterion that families must be living in the catchment to be able to obtain a place. So the onus is on parents to check they are in catchment before putting their child in for the test.

Super-selectives don 't need to operate in this way - they can have a ranking order, start at the top then work their way down until all the places are full. In this case the onus is on the parents to ensure they can get their child to the school.

Hi! Does anyone know what has previously come up in the Sutton stage 2 boys English test? Thanks

Last year's task was to write a letter to local MP to persuade them to fund greenhouses for the school

Hi - I thought the Greenwich judgement was related to not preventing people from adjoining boroughs to attend schools. So in Bexley someone in Greenwich or Bromley would be higher on admissions for a grammar if they lived nearer despite not being in the borough.

Yeah I don't think it directly takes about distance criteria, more borough boundaries

Hopping onto the new thread.

Waiting Trafford results. This is 2nd year in a row for us so I’m just exhausted by it all. Having said that, DD1 is absolutely loving it at the Grammar so was worth it.

Has anyone in Trafford done Loreto/Ambrose as well as the Consortium?

Hello, we are also waiting for trafford and st Ambrose. Totally clueless for everything, about the outcome , result date, OOC etc. how was your first experience by the way

Can someone please give a link for eleven plus forum pls. I’m so rubbish with technology! I’m trying to find the threads mentioning latyner and HB

https://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum/11plus/

This is the link but it's not very intuitive. Latymer and HB tend to crop up in the "Hertfordshire (Other and North London)" regional topic.

@Magnificentkitteh thank you! I found that site so difficult to navigate

Agree! It's also not clear why newer threads/posts appear much lower down than threads that haven't been posted on for years

You're absolutely right, it is. It's just that a logical extension of that ruling (or possibly an unintended consequence?) Is that schools can't give priority to DCs living in their own LEA (as they then were). And if they can't do that, they can't give priority to anyone based purely on where they live.

Individual schools can, however, have use catchment areas as a criterion provided they aren't in breach of the Greenwich Judgment. So this has led to the rather farcical state we are in now, whereby a school can't prohibit anyone from taking the test but can refuse them a place based on where they live.

I think those are two different things, depending on the geography of where you live. I live near two borough boundaries, as is probably common in London. It used to be the case that children in one borough had priority over others who lived nearer but the other side of a borough boundary. That changed after the judgment, though it just meant that the distance criteria changed, rather than fell away. But I don't know what has been further extrapolated from this. I can well believe there have been further legal challenges about late applicants moving into catchment etc but I expect there would be ways to address these as long as the criteria are clear and published in advance. Or perhaps if there was a way for people who actually move to apply late. Even if not you could change the criteria so you have a rounded assessment at stage 1 and a properly dynamic waiting list. I struggle to believe the only option is to mark 700 English papers pointlessly, or to have too few places to accommodate all eligible kids meeting the required standard, but there does tend to be a bias towards the status quo .

Good luck everyone

Anyone else bored of the waiting now? :)

“Hi - I thought the Greenwich judgement was related to not preventing people from adjoining boroughs to attend schools. So in Bexley someone in Greenwich or Bromley would be higher on admissions for a grammar if they lived nearer despite not being in the borough.”

It has to be like that because conversely someone in Bexley on the border has the option to apply for Greenwich and Bromley comprehensive schools if they want to opt out of the grammar system as well. You cannot have one borough getting more choice for their own over a neighbouring borough. I assume Bucks kids can also if on the border apply to schools outside their border should they wish to do so. Same applies to those in Kent living on the border to Orpington. And there are also Kent kids going to superselectives in Bromley Borough. Like Surrey residents travel across borough too. The public transport system in London and Outer London and into Home Counties makes a lot of this possible. Sometimes a school much further away is far easier to get to on public transport then a much closer one as the crow flies.
Bucks overall is the highest attaining area eduction wise in the entire country, difficult to separate attainment and wealth though, as always.

I’m so bored! How can it take this long? So many of them are just marked by computer. Herts consortium is 6 weeks from sitting to results. It’s like they drag it out to add a bit of torture and then release them days before the CAF deadline.

The wait is absolute torture! We’ve still got about 3 more weeks until the results come out 😵‍💫

I know! So bored of waiting! And really can't be bothered going to a load more open evenings without knowing where we stand with Latymer and St Mary Magdalene, though I know I won't get certainty for a while.

Apparently tomorrow is an inset day at Latymer. I don’t know if this is significant or not 🤔

Even when we get St M results on 24th, we still might not know for sure if she gets a place. If she's in the top 128, yes it's pretty much guaranteed as there's128 places... historically they've allocated to top 160, so if she's between 128-160, we won't know for sure until March!