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SW London Private & Grammar - applying for year 7 in 2023 (Part II)

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QuiteAJourney · 14/12/2022 12:12

Continuation of the thread
SW London Girls' Private & Grammar - applying for year 7 in 2023

www.mumsnet.com/talk/secondary/4643252-sw-london-girls-private-grammar-applying-for-year-7-in-2023?page=40

Looking forward to continuing the journey with all of you!!

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LondonMum20222 · 05/01/2023 18:27

@blissfullyunaware Thank-you!

blissfullyunaware · 05/01/2023 18:32

blissfullyunaware · 05/01/2023 18:15

A week after the exam

Ah sorry I thought you meant third round - third round notification was a week after the exam. Second round notification was also around a week once the week of computerised testing finished. I think the school gives all dates to parents during the process which was very well run.

EweCee · 05/01/2023 18:45

Thanks all. @knopka we had also submitted for a scholarship with Claremont (and obvs no email). I did see that last year the scholarship students weren’t included in initial email invites though (but assuming that as numbers have increased so much they wouldn’t just ‘pass’ you through interview stage this year like it seemed to say/ alluded to on the earlier Claremont January thread??)

Wlondonmum2022 · 05/01/2023 18:50

Does anyone know how many sat the Putney exam? And how many make it to the second round?

WildBactrian · 05/01/2023 18:56

Does anyone know if the report influences the decision to interview, or if it is based only on test results, with the report looked at alongside the interview? In other words, at what stage in the process is the report taken into account?

knopka · 05/01/2023 19:05

EweCee · 05/01/2023 18:45

Thanks all. @knopka we had also submitted for a scholarship with Claremont (and obvs no email). I did see that last year the scholarship students weren’t included in initial email invites though (but assuming that as numbers have increased so much they wouldn’t just ‘pass’ you through interview stage this year like it seemed to say/ alluded to on the earlier Claremont January thread??)

Fingers crossed for you for tomorrow. The wait is the worst

Workhar · 05/01/2023 19:21

WildBactrian · 05/01/2023 18:56

Does anyone know if the report influences the decision to interview, or if it is based only on test results, with the report looked at alongside the interview? In other words, at what stage in the process is the report taken into account?

Nobody knows! And the kind of secrecy they maintain around the admissions process is insane. Seems more like a covert MI5 operation where they are selecting future spies. I also think that all prep heads write positive recommendations for their pupils. So I wonder how do they differentiate between school reports. The only real difference can be the CAT scores and many schools don’t even test that.

knopka · 05/01/2023 19:29

@Workhar
I agree, more transparency would be ideal. I really doubt many heads will write a bad reference so what exactly does it achieve? I do wonder if they take CAT4 into account if it is available but I imagine we won't really know. I am tempted to ask current school if they provided CAT4 scores.

LondonMum20222 · 05/01/2023 19:34

@knopka @Workhar I imagine with any reference (per in the adult world as well) there's a difference between a great reference and an average reference. I'm sure we've all had to give references for people (and read references of potential employees) and there's a world of difference between "They're capable and were pretty reliable" versus "They're one of the best employees we've ever had and we will be so sorry to see them go." I'm sure heads have mastered the art of writing - and reading - between the lines on references. "She's a good, solid student" is quite different from "She's an outstanding pupil who excels in everything she does." 😂 Neither are "bad" but one is very obviously better than the other!

QuiteAJourney · 05/01/2023 19:40

LondonMum20222 · 05/01/2023 19:34

@knopka @Workhar I imagine with any reference (per in the adult world as well) there's a difference between a great reference and an average reference. I'm sure we've all had to give references for people (and read references of potential employees) and there's a world of difference between "They're capable and were pretty reliable" versus "They're one of the best employees we've ever had and we will be so sorry to see them go." I'm sure heads have mastered the art of writing - and reading - between the lines on references. "She's a good, solid student" is quite different from "She's an outstanding pupil who excels in everything she does." 😂 Neither are "bad" but one is very obviously better than the other!

Completely agree with the scope for conveying nuanced yet clear messages.

As to the weight the references have, it is anyone's guess. I would expect them to be more likely to be taken into account when the results are marginally below pass rate, when there is divergence between results and student records and/or when there is a long established relation between schools (feeders or the like)

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LondonMum20222 · 05/01/2023 19:44

QuiteAJourney · 05/01/2023 19:40

Completely agree with the scope for conveying nuanced yet clear messages.

As to the weight the references have, it is anyone's guess. I would expect them to be more likely to be taken into account when the results are marginally below pass rate, when there is divergence between results and student records and/or when there is a long established relation between schools (feeders or the like)

From what we've been told at DD's school, there's huge variation as to the weight of references: we were told that some senior schools don't even open the attachment whereas others consider them carefully. (Obviously we weren't told which schools did which - that would be far too helpful! 😂)

BlueTick · 05/01/2023 19:44

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KindergartenKop · 05/01/2023 19:47

@knopka and @EweCee we haven't heard anything from Claremont either 🙄

DogsintheRain · 05/01/2023 19:52

Good luck to everyone waiting to hear tomorrow

Daydreamscometrue · 05/01/2023 19:56

@KindergartenKop @knopka @EweCee it's very frustrating and nerve wracking. I've received emails way ahead of DP in this process so it's probably down to the server.

SallyGardener · 05/01/2023 19:58

Daydreamscometrue · 05/01/2023 19:56

@KindergartenKop @knopka @EweCee it's very frustrating and nerve wracking. I've received emails way ahead of DP in this process so it's probably down to the server.

Same here, my DH hasn't had the email yet.

Also @KindergartenKop @knopka @EweCee we didn't apply for a scholarship so fingers crossed that's the difference.

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pa1ace · 05/01/2023 20:12

Most prep heads will point blank refuse to write references / support applications to schools if they know a DC would not have a chance in the selection process. They say it undermines the credibility of the prep and their professional judgement if they are 'sending' DC to schools that they are not cut out for. Not to mention, it is undue stress for the child. So I think senior schools do trust the professional judgment of heads that would recommend a group of kids year on year.

Thd head at the prep mine were at used to say that the only school she has no idea what on Earth they were thinking was the Harrodian and she would not attempt to call it. She said she could see no pattern as to who was offered a place and who was not.

I remember she said some schools put more emphasis on interviews than others - ie LU tend to rely on it quite heavily as they tend to take, shall we say, more confident / opinionated / 'character' types. Quite a few very academic but quiet / shy / 'bookish' DC did not get into LU, but they did get into LEH / SPGS and G&L and did brilliantly there and, in retrospect, these schools were probably a better fit (socially) anyway for those girls.

There used to be 'subject interviews' or 'general interviews' at KGS and lore had it that a general interview was basically an offer. Don't know if this is still the case?

SPGS was known for being slightly biased towards girls who were excellent at Maths, (rather than excellent at English) They also have Bute and Faulkner House which were essentially feeder schools, taking up maybe 20-30 places between them every year. Don't know if they still do? This was about 4 years ago.

Asham · 05/01/2023 20:16

Good luck to all those waiting for results.

Asham · 05/01/2023 20:53

We have the Epsom College Exam tomorrow! It’s my DC’s favourite. Good luck to anyone else sitting exams tomorrow/interviews tomorrow.

QuiteAJourney · 05/01/2023 20:55

@Asham - good luck!

Good luck to all with exams / interviews tomorrow!

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EweCee · 05/01/2023 21:41

Just got the Claremont email inviting to Interview and Scholarship Assessment! So looks like the scholarship applicants are being sent separately.

So pleased, if for no other reason than to demonstrate to my daughter that her hard work has paid off (no matter the outcome) and we are proud of her as unfortunately she was tired and emotional tonight after her audition today, worried she won’t get any offers and is just generally over the whole process.

QuiteAJourney · 05/01/2023 21:45

@EweCee congratulations and well done to your DD!

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Daydreamscometrue · 05/01/2023 21:49

@EweCee congratulations! Your daughter has done so well. She's almost there now!

EweCee · 05/01/2023 21:54

Thanks @QuiteAJourney and @Daydreamscometrue. And to everyone going through this, thank you too - at times I feel this thread is what’s keeping me sane….😀

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