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Sixth-form girl living alone

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 10:13

Do you think that a private mixed sixth form should admit a new pupil who will be living alone in a small rented apartment during the week, returning home to her parents at the weekend?

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Annesmyth123 · 16/03/2017 15:06

The fact that she's living on her own would be confidential. Hr own private living arrangements and those of her parents.

Basic European convention right. To a private and family life.

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 15:06

The parents wrote up a report based on what their DC told them.

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Annesmyth123 · 16/03/2017 15:07

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

what a set of deluded fools with fuck all to do they are.

Alfieisnoisy · 16/03/2017 15:07

OP, you often seem to post Education re,acted stuff....you always drip feed and are always evasive in answering questions. Ever you are a goady fucker or this didn't happen....which is it?

I mean heaven forbid that these private school parents laid out cash to buy exam results that their "non responsibility taking" children didn't get.

My son is 14 and has more responsibility in his smallest toe than the kids you are describing here.

Parents looking to pass the blame on the school without looking at the part their own kids played in that. How WILL their children cope in the workplace when such temptations arise....or will they blame their lack of production on the girl in the office who the company should not have employed because she is a distraction,

The parents need to get a grip and they need to tell their kids to grow the fuck up and accept responsibility for their actions and inactions with regards to exam results.

Annesmyth123 · 16/03/2017 15:09

I could write up a report on what my DD used to tell me went on at the weekends in the upper sixth. I could even type it up in word, print it out and bind it. With colour and a metal spine and everything.

Wouldn't make it true though.

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 15:10

These are minors onto whom you are foisting adult responsibilities of care and supervision.

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Annesmyth123 · 16/03/2017 15:11

No. I'm not. No one is. They are doing what teenagers do.

Am PMSL t the parents writing up a report. What a load of piffle and a waste if everyone's time that was. 😂😂😂😂

Pallisers · 16/03/2017 15:13

These are minors onto whom you are foisting adult responsibilities of care and supervision.

huh? Are you now saying they all failed because they were doing her washing and cooking her dinner?

The girl was failed by her parents because they left her in an unsupported and unsupervised situation. I don't care how many MNs were paying a mortgage and rearing a child age 17.

But the other classmates? Up to them to study and manage their time. That is their responsibility - probably their only one.

And the parents of the classmates - how about a bit of adult care and supervision from them instead of expecting the school to do it for them.

prh47bridge · 16/03/2017 15:13

No. No I don't agree with this at all. It is a very grey area

The point is that a girl of sixth form age has the right to live alone if she so wishes. Neither her parents nor anyone else has any right to stop her from doing so. That is what I meant when I said there was nothing wrong with it.

I'm not sure what exactly would be confidential information?

The girl's living arrangements. Revealing them would be a clear breach of data protection. Her address even more so.

I note that you have said several times that the girl was told by the school to lie about her living arrangements and yet she has clearly told her classmates. Is there any evidence that she was told to lie? And, if she was, what were the circumstances? It might, from a safeguarding point of view, be quite reasonable of the school to advise the girl that she should be careful about revealing her living arrangements.

Trifleorbust · 16/03/2017 15:13

I'm not sure what exactly would be confidential information?

A student's living arrangements fall into that category. It would be both inappropriate and potentially dangerous for a school to make it known that a 16 year old girl was living alone. I mean, think about it. Hmm

ealingwestmum · 16/03/2017 15:13

Hilarious. The girls should have clearly stayed on her side of the tracks.

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 15:14

It is the responsibility of school and parents to create an environment propitious to exam success, notwithstanding the natural inclinations and experimentations of teenagers.

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 15:15

And it was dangerous to ask that girl to keep the information secret - it allowed her to take advantage of the situation.

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Pallisers · 16/03/2017 15:17

It is the responsibility of school and parents to create an environment propitious to exam success, notwithstanding the natural inclinations and experimentations of teenagers.

Indeed. And a lot of parents seem to have bungled that one and are now looking for someone to blame.

Annesmyth123 · 16/03/2017 15:19

You dont know what was said to the girl.

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 15:19

When the parents wrote the report they had plenty of quotations from their DC who said that secrecy was absolute because the girl wasn't supposed to say that she was living alone. Obviously they all had s vested interest in keeping the info to themselves which hey managed to do, very successfully. Obviously the DC all now think it doesn't need to be kept secret.

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ealingwestmum · 16/03/2017 15:21

The girl was failed by her parents because they left her in an unsupported and unsupervised situation.

Agree. Because in the absence of further information on the actual parents' involvement in all of this, for this case, this looks like this is where the responsibility lies. Of course there may be SO many reasons why it was better for the girl to live solo and move schools vs stay, but we have absolutely none of them to conclude properly. I amy not chose to leave mine from 16 on her own, but I can't judge on why others might without circumstances. They may be more compelling, but at least 2 sides of data.

Annesmyth123 · 16/03/2017 15:23

Quotes from dc still doesn't make it true

ealingwestmum · 16/03/2017 15:23

Obviously the DC all now think it doesn't need to be kept secret.

Ker ching!

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 15:24

Only a school is responsible for creating a community. I realise this applies to private schools, not state schools.

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Notwhatiexpected · 16/03/2017 15:25

But WHY OP, don't you think it was the kids own, and their parents fault? If my child was renting a room to have sex in after school, I would probably miss them when I do pickup.

To reiterate, it is not the school's responsibility to monitor the behaviour of children outside of school, the responsibility belongs to the parents.

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 15:26

There seems to be pretty clear consensus from the year group as to why it was kept secret. I don't think (not totally sure) that the school has denied the fact that it asked the girl to keep her living arrangements secret.

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BoboChic · 16/03/2017 15:27

Sixth formers in city centres aren't usually picked up by their mummies!

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Pallisers · 16/03/2017 15:27

you really are very naive OP and so are these parents. Do they really believe their DC when they said "oh we couldn't tell you she was living on her own because the school said she had to keep it secret". Are these people clueless? Their children didn't tell them she was living alone because they didn't want the good times to end.

The parents didn't ask enough questions, or know or care that their children were apparently off partying in an empty apartment most nights. Pretty bad parenting fail. But if they believe the children as described above they are fairly clueless anyway.

Notwhatiexpected · 16/03/2017 15:28

Oh my, state schools cannot generate a community? That privilege only applies to private schools?

Oh you are very funny OP.

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