I think DDs school want her out

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DD 14 attends an academy school. She is achieving very low grades 3c-4a . She has ADHD and dyslexia . In the last few months they seem to be targeting DD . DD is no angel but she has never bullied anyone sworn smoked etc . Her crime not concentrating and being a bit disruptive (chatty ). Previous schools have dealt with it well simply by refocussing her . They tell her she is going to be permanently excluded then wonder why she has become more defiant and off with them .I know there are students much more challenging but achieve higher grades and they don't get harassed. They call me many times a day over things like her shirt was untucked ,she had gum really trivial minor things that don't warrant the sanctions and calls home.Where as some classmates truant and swear and nothing.Even her classmates ask teacher why they only tell DD off . When i complain they more or less say im the problem and they are trying to "correct her behaviour" and i make it difficult. Sadly moving her isn't an option in the area i'm in. I'm so desperate i'm considering homeschooling but she'd hate it she is very sociable . I have made official complaint and outcome was they are doing their job i'm preventing them. What would you do?!!

I have requested these documents but never been able to see them. The head goes with this tactic that when i question she questions me as a mother to deflect from them. "DD seemed very anxious and jumpy is something going on at home" urm nope DD is anxious as you are all breathing down her neck. "DD flinched do you know why that may be" very manipulative!

You need to put your request in writing OP, for your child's 'school record'. They have to respond, by law.

Starlight - your post makes no sense.

If you read my previous posts, you'll see what that was referring to.

Other children sometimes think it's unfair that certain students top the praise point tables consistently because some teachers give them points for things that other students do automatically. IMO, it's lazy and unfair. And yes, plenty of parents moan on MN education boards that their quiet hardworking children never get certificates because other children always do.

My point was that no single child should trump another - rewards should be given fairly. But then no reward system is ever going to be seen as completely fair by everybody.

Evil this is why the content of what is being taught needs to be made the motivating factor, that and verbal encouragement can go a long way. Oh and avoid Zero Tolerance....

Starlight - is it possible, do you think, that given I have worked with this child and his mum for 3 years, not just as a class teacher, but as someone who runs activities that he is involved with after school and at weekends, that I know more about this specific case than you do?

Just a thought.

Outtolunch, when I said specialised school it was the only way of describing my dds school without outing myself. It specialises in a certain activity and only does academic work for 1/2 the week yet gets amazing academic results because of the teaching there. A friends dd did a weeks work experience there and said the academic teachers who had worked in mainstream education said it was unlike any place they had ever worked before

This site has information regarding access to your child's school records.

www.cfoi.org.uk/persfilesintro.html

Capsium - my school has a Zero Tolerance policy WRT bullying. Everything else - we're not that stupid

I think DD would make do with an occasional smile and "well done!" . I told DD to try and be friendly to them and ask about them and they mighy do the same she said "did you do anything nice at the weekend miss" she said "i do not talk with students about my personal life" biy abrupt fair enough no detail needed but why not say "good thankyou yours?" .Its a joke .

Evil how many subjects do you teach? Children should know their targets, they can be written in their diary. They should know the learning objective of each lesson. Do you not do this?

Mandyandme i need to find a school like this!

Targets are very outdated. We have not set academic targets for several years. It's all about levels of progress now.

Likewise learning objectives - it is no longer required to have it written up for kids to copy. As long as they are told what they're learning and why then it's fine.

And praise points can't just be issued for meeting targets - that would be daft.

Why are targets outdated ?. They are used to ensure outcomes in pretty much every other successful institution and children will have to meet them in whatever situation they find themselves in after their school years.

How can an IEP be meaningful without targets?

Academic targets - ie your target for Maths is B. That's outdated. Now schools look at levels of progress rather than presenting children with targets that they may feel are out of reach.

So aren't levels of progress targets? How do children know what they are trying to learn otherwise?

btw, I have never actually SEEN a SMART IEP in 6 schools so perhaps that is why they are being removed.

I meant targets for personal development at last school it was things like a) i shall tell the teacher one thing i have learnt b) I will put my hand up if i do not understand

Academic targets - ie your target for Maths is B. That's outdated. Now schools look at levels of progress rather than presenting children with targets that they may feel are out of reach.

Targets are the same as levels of progress. So, you do have levels of progress for each individual child and can reward them accordingly?

Starlight - no, because schools are interested in students making 3 (good), 4 (excellent) or 5 (outstanding) LP. Knowing that if you get a B in Maths you've made 4 LP does not help a child know what to learn

Anyway, this was about linking praise to meeting targets.

Targets are not the same as levels of progress. Targets are set beforehand. LP are looked at afterwards.

Teachers need to know a student's starting point and therefore what 3,4 or 5 LP would be. Students don't need to know this.

Also, LP go across a key stage so linking praise to meeting LP targets would mean very little praise.

But Evil all students are supposed to have measurable 'stepping stones' (for want of a better phrase) that they know and are working towards. In each subject. Both of my secondary school children know their targets/stepping stones and they know when they have achieved them and what the next step is.

Their school has a reward system and they both regularly receive awards in line with the behaviour policy. It sounds like your school doesn't have any kind of system in place to reward good behaviour and progress for each and every student?

Not actually true, Fairenuff. Your kids' school might do that but it is in no way a requirement. They need to know how to make progress, yes, but that does not need to be linked to levels or grades. In fact, levels are gone, officially.

I'm not talking just about levels and grades, though, Evil. Do you have a behaviour policy? If so, what is the system in the policy regarding good behaviour?