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Shall we have a Scotsnet general election thread?

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JennyLake · 22/05/2024 19:34

This WILL be interesting. Even if it doesn’t rid us of the SNP from Holyrood, it will provide a good barometer of public opinion on the recent exploits of the SNP.

Farewell Blackman and Black!

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Jeezitneverends · 24/05/2024 08:33

TheBanffie · 23/05/2024 20:29

So he inappropriately allowed his family to use his work laptop and (based on the fact that he claimed he didn't know how the bill was run up) presumably gave them his password. He then tried to put the bill on his expenses - which is attempted fraud. Ignorance (if one believes his denial of understanding how the charges were run up - which either shows stupidity regarding very well publicised roaming charges or failure to supervise his children on the internet) is no excuse and he should step down from parliament. Swinney defending him is frankly embarrassing.

Exactly…it’s the same principle as a shoplifter offering to pay after they’re caught stealing

Jeezitneverends · 24/05/2024 08:34

Is anyone hoping for a campaigner to turn up on their doorstep so they can challenge them on trans shite?

Jollyvacance · 24/05/2024 08:36

I do blame Nicola for this - if she’d listened to the debate and allowed some protections for rape centres, dealing with under 18s, and same sex spaces due to the obvious threat of male violence this debate would not be so toxic. CCTV being rolled out in the shared spaces of mixed toilets for example - how many of us have seen that rape conviction they managed as perpetrator was caught dragging the woman around on CCTV?

some sensible policies to beef up protections against abuse of these laws would’ve taken the heat out of a lot of this debate.

VelvetKimono · 24/05/2024 08:38

My Labour candidate, Joani Reid came canvassing and was great. She was clear that the gender ID was wrong, and apologised for labour’s part in it. She talked about putting resources into things that actually matter to people to try to make their lives better: mental health services; education; family support services, etc. I was impressed and will vote for her.

Im pleased, as hopefully she can defeat the SNP here, but I can vote positively for once!

LeilaLettuce · 24/05/2024 08:40

VelvetKimono · 24/05/2024 08:38

My Labour candidate, Joani Reid came canvassing and was great. She was clear that the gender ID was wrong, and apologised for labour’s part in it. She talked about putting resources into things that actually matter to people to try to make their lives better: mental health services; education; family support services, etc. I was impressed and will vote for her.

Im pleased, as hopefully she can defeat the SNP here, but I can vote positively for once!

What’s the point though if the party themselves support a different view?

BigBoysDontCry · 24/05/2024 08:44

Jeezitneverends · 24/05/2024 08:34

Is anyone hoping for a campaigner to turn up on their doorstep so they can challenge them on trans shite?

Well I don't think I'll get the SNP round as I'm on Daddy Bear's "list" 😂😂

Jeezitneverends · 24/05/2024 08:44

LeilaLettuce · 24/05/2024 08:40

What’s the point though if the party themselves support a different view?

There’s always a point in challenging…I get where you’re coming from, but to not challenge means to accept, and I will NEVER accept this shite

OneWildBiscuit · 24/05/2024 09:10

apples24 · 23/05/2024 05:51

I'll vote Labour.

I would NEVER vote SNP and desperately want rid of my awful misogynistic lazy totally invisible in his constituency SNP MP.

I can't believe the SNP supporters in this thread. Have they not yet realised that the party is wholly incompetent.

I would vote Tory for Holyrood elections but I absolutely cannot cast a vote to support the Westminster Tories which are getting increasingly fringe/extreme right. The utter cluster fuck of no deal Brexit, Johnson lying his greasy arse off, Truss blowing up the economy, massively expensive and ineffective Rwanda bill being promoted etc absolutely deserve no votes whatsoever.

So out of a bad bunch I will begrudgingly vote Labour who struggle to define a woman. But I hope that the general tide is turning in time to prevent a disaster in that space.

I suspect there will be a major bit of back pedalling from Labour over the whole 'transwomen are women' nonsense following the Cass Review.

OneWildBiscuit · 24/05/2024 09:18

kikisparks · 23/05/2024 07:56

We have free prescriptions, no university fees, no bedroom tax (might not be on your radar but it has been hideous pushing already poor families further into poverty), free personal care, Scottish child payment, free bus travel for under 22s, free school meals for primary school children, no fracking, the best IVF provision in the UK, carer’s allowance supplement, and many more things that you may not agree your tax should be funding but which many people are benefiting from and would feel it has done them good.

I’m a high rate tax payer but I am happy that the Scottish Government have actually cared about child poverty and tried to do something about it.

The UN special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights’ report really hit home to me how lucky we are to have a devolved government and not had to live purely under Tory rule https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/Poverty/EOM_GB_16Nov2018.pdf

“Even while devolved authorities in Scotland and Northern Ireland are frantically trying to devise ways to ‘mitigate’, or in other words counteract, at least the worst features of the Government’s benefits policy, Ministers insisted to me that all is well and running according to plan.”

Are SNP amazing? No. Do they have faults? Of course, you don’t need me to tell you them, I’m sure plenty of others will be along to jump on and list them. Is it helpful to argue they are only bad people only interested in lining their own pockets? Well personally I don’t think so.

I wish politics wasn’t as polarising and venomous, but then whilst I can happily understand there may be reasons for anyone choosing to vote labour or Lib Dem, I feel uncomfortable about anyone voting for the tories given what I see as their horrific track record. I suppose that’s how some people feel about me voting SNP. Maybe the tories too have done many great things that others have benefitted from even if I personally don’t agree with my tax being spent that way, but mostly what I see is failed billion pound contracts given to their friends, lying in parliament and proposing ridiculous poverty solutions like “get a better job” (well who will do the worse jobs then?).

You do realise that free prescriptions came at the expense of mental health and elderly care budgets that were raided to pay for it? I'd personally prefer to pay as I can afford to.

I'm a mental health nurse and the NHS has been reduced to worse than a 3rd world service under 17 years of SNP rule

VelvetKimono · 24/05/2024 09:29

LeilaLettuce · 24/05/2024 08:40

What’s the point though if the party themselves support a different view?

Because I want people in parliament who will speak out on these issues

VelvetKimono · 24/05/2024 09:29

There’s no such thing as free prescriptions,etc. All these things have to be paid for

OneWildBiscuit · 24/05/2024 09:38

OokBook · 23/05/2024 21:43

Why are so many people so obsessed with other people's genitalia? People know themselves better than anyone else knows them.. when they tell you who they are, why wouldn't you believe them? What difference does it make to you what gender someone is? They're not doing you any harm. It's bizarre to be so hateful.

Except that demanding women share safe spaces with people who claim to be female but are not is just not acceptable. Considering how very small the ratio of transgender people is in the entire UK population, there have a significantly high number of sexually violent offences commited by them.

I'm sure the majority of people have absolutely no issue with people who wish to identify and live as the opposite sex, but this should not mean that the rights and safety of biological women is ignored.

kikisparks · 24/05/2024 10:01

OneWildBiscuit · 24/05/2024 09:18

You do realise that free prescriptions came at the expense of mental health and elderly care budgets that were raided to pay for it? I'd personally prefer to pay as I can afford to.

I'm a mental health nurse and the NHS has been reduced to worse than a 3rd world service under 17 years of SNP rule

I did say that you may not have benefitted but some people have. I agree there should be better funding to mental health budgets. Whether that support should come at the expense of free prescriptions in the current climate I am unsure. The cost of means testing prescriptions may be prohibitive and means testing always leaves some people who don’t meet the criteria, but are struggling, out. I would worry in a cost of living crisis that those squeezed would have to decide between heating, eating and medication. I have seen it posted on here by English posters that they cannot afford their prescription. This will include medication for mental health reasons. Whether to take medication should be a question of medical need rather than whether you can afford it.

kikisparks · 24/05/2024 10:05

OneWildBiscuit · 24/05/2024 09:18

You do realise that free prescriptions came at the expense of mental health and elderly care budgets that were raided to pay for it? I'd personally prefer to pay as I can afford to.

I'm a mental health nurse and the NHS has been reduced to worse than a 3rd world service under 17 years of SNP rule

Of course it may be that if the labour or Lib Dem manifesto claim that better funding will be made available for mental health support by scrapping free prescriptions, and that is a policy you support, then there would be clear reasons for you to vote for them. If the tories say it I’m not sure I’d trust them given the decimation of mental health services in England.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/05/2024 10:55

OokBook · 23/05/2024 21:43

Why are so many people so obsessed with other people's genitalia? People know themselves better than anyone else knows them.. when they tell you who they are, why wouldn't you believe them? What difference does it make to you what gender someone is? They're not doing you any harm. It's bizarre to be so hateful.

I've already commented on the cases in my area where criminals claimed to identify as women in order to access women's facilities and the women's prison estate.

When someone pretends to be another gender, it absolutely matters.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/05/2024 10:57

I'll add that in the Dolatowski case, the one "obsessed with genitalia" was clearly Lennon Dolatowski. It's a disgrace that he was allowed anywhere near female facilities of any description.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/05/2024 10:59

User2460177 · 23/05/2024 22:30

I really like Neale Hanvey. If he was standing in my constituency, he’d get my vote. Ash regan too

He's a good man. I used to live in his constituency and contacted him over a family matter. Got an immediate response from him.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/05/2024 11:05

OokBook · 23/05/2024 22:05

SNP and the Greens consistently have the policies that are best for the most vulnerable in society. Have done since I first became interested in politics as a young teenager. Additionally, trans people are some of the most vulnerable people you know. I can't understand why people want to deny them the freedom to be who they are. My trans friends are understandably frightened in the current political climate.

From my area alone: Peter Laing/Paris Green. Lennon/Katy Dolatowski. Andrew Burns/Obi Wan Kenobi/Mr Mighty Almighty/Mitzababy/Tiffany Scott.

Burns obviously latched onto the cunning wheeze of claiming to be a woman after he heard about Laing and others - he was already in prison when he had the revelation that he was trans.

This is why we need decent safeguarding procedures with medical certification, not self-ID.

LittleGlowingOblong · 24/05/2024 11:05

I want a party that

  1. Does not support genocide but respects the rights & status of Jews.
  2. Believes in sex as a category distinct from gender
  3. Thinks Brexit has failed and would seek closer ties with Europe, especially FOM for young people and creative industries in particular.
  4. Does not have a history of sleaze, dodgy procurement, and burying the Russia Report etc, etc,
  5. Accepts the urgency of the climate crisis.

I think this is a bland position, but actually there’s no single party that ticks the first two, let along the first three. So I’m politically homeless.

However, my constituency MP is a good, solid hardworking woman, so I’m happy to vote for her. She happens to be SNP; and Westminster still needs more women in it

theteddybear · 24/05/2024 11:54

I'm all for the tactical voting to get the SNP out. I had previously voted for tories. Last election I didn't vote as I wldnt vote labour under corbyn, didn't want to vote for tories again as fed up of them, and I'll never vote snp.

I think I'll likely vote labour as I'm sure they are the closest to snp in my constituency but last time it was pretty much about 40% to snp and the other 60% split between labour/tories.

yellowridinghood · 24/05/2024 11:59

LittleGlowingOblong · 24/05/2024 11:05

I want a party that

  1. Does not support genocide but respects the rights & status of Jews.
  2. Believes in sex as a category distinct from gender
  3. Thinks Brexit has failed and would seek closer ties with Europe, especially FOM for young people and creative industries in particular.
  4. Does not have a history of sleaze, dodgy procurement, and burying the Russia Report etc, etc,
  5. Accepts the urgency of the climate crisis.

I think this is a bland position, but actually there’s no single party that ticks the first two, let along the first three. So I’m politically homeless.

However, my constituency MP is a good, solid hardworking woman, so I’m happy to vote for her. She happens to be SNP; and Westminster still needs more women in it

My thoughts exactly! I’m voting for a good hardworking candidate too.

annabelindajane · 24/05/2024 12:02

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I’m not sure if the general population understands that Israel helps keep the West safe . Nothing Stephen Flynn says will resonate with Israel so he’d be better focussing on Scottish issues .

annabelindajane · 24/05/2024 12:12

I’ll be voting Tory as we are fighting to keep our oil industry and they seem to be the only party that has a grip on this although was not happy with keeping the extra tax on for another year . I also believe that Rishi given 10 years would sort this country out . He’d get rid of the dross and slowly start rebuilding . He’s a man able to solve enormously complex problems but short terminism is a problem . Conservatives also not afraid to say exactly what a woman .

Ive had a Canadian friend staying and they seem to have all the same “ cost of living “ problems we have .

PrimalLass · 24/05/2024 12:15

no bedroom tax

Which means the absolute wa-hoo next door to me is in a 3-bed house with a big south-facing garden she's run derelict and overgrown.

Escapetothesun · 24/05/2024 12:17

Ern, you do realise that person you will vote for is worth £651 million and would probably die from laughing at your comment re him being here for 10 years. He couldn't care less!!!