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Shall we have a Scotsnet general election thread?

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JennyLake · 22/05/2024 19:34

This WILL be interesting. Even if it doesn’t rid us of the SNP from Holyrood, it will provide a good barometer of public opinion on the recent exploits of the SNP.

Farewell Blackman and Black!

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Disc0mbobulated · 05/07/2024 21:27

I'm not sure. Maybe he's invented a prior engagement because he doesn't want the job anyway now that the SNP have had such a kicking.

Hedjwitch · 05/07/2024 21:34

Absolutely delighted to see the SNP get the kicking they deserve but sorry to see Joanna Cherry go. She had integrity and intelligence.

k1880 · 05/07/2024 21:51

Misthios · 05/07/2024 21:13

How odd - you’d think he’d have kept the weekend free. Unless it’s a wedding or something, is it in the rules the candidates have to be at the count?

It's been made pretty clear now that it's not too close to call, the reason they couldn't confirm it is some sort of discrepancy in the number of ballots. But not enough to change the outcome. So the SNP candidate has conceded to Lib Dems in response to the grief he was getting for not changing his plans to wait around in person to have it confirmed 24+ hours later.

Disc0mbobulated · 05/07/2024 22:03

I think it's pretty shitty of him not to be there tomorrow. All those people who voted for him and he's got more important things to do. Even if he knows the outcome won't go his way he should be there in my opinion. Not long since he was tweeting this...

Shall we have a Scotsnet general election thread?
annabelindajane · 05/07/2024 22:10

kikisparks · 05/07/2024 18:09

In what way am I defiant and defensive? I’ve said “Some people clearly still vote for them both in constituencies where they lost and those where they won but that is not reflected on Scotsnet” and had a reply that that is not reflected in the election results but it is, blatantly some people have voted SNP.

It is an echo chamber in here, whether that reflects the view of the majority of the electorate does not change the fact that there are a significant minority whose views are not welcome here. And as for the SNP needing to listen to views that are not theirs, did you not see my post on precisely that? Wondering what would need to change in the next two years so that we don’t end up with double labour (and I have nothing against labour being in in England, actually I welcome that result, but I think the Scottish parliament should work for Scotland and I don’t think Scottish Labour will do that).

Anyway I am not going to read this thread any further, as I’m sure everyone will be happy with to be left in peace to agree SNP are terrible. I was interested in some of the replies as to what SNP have done wrong and do agree with some of it, but having it implied that I lack education, social interest and that I vote on emotion rather than facts, which I do not think could be further from the truth, just puts me off trying to engage at all. I understand why there are some “shy tories” and why there is a failure to be able to engage with them to discuss why they hold their political views, nobody is open to debate if you’re just going to jump on and insult them.

Just before you go - please explain why you support the SNP as I’m curious as to why on their record that anyone could? Aberdeen North and South think the same so would love to know why anyone does .

yellowridinghood · 05/07/2024 22:14

Someone in my book group WhatsApps today that they couldn’t understand why more people don’t vote Scottish greens. Mind blown! Mind utterly blown! Do these people not follow Scottish politics at all??? Okay if you are keen on the environment and have no idea what the Scottish greens wider policies actually are, you could be fooled. But surely not everyone is that ignorant.

VelvetKimono · 05/07/2024 22:27

yellowridinghood · 05/07/2024 22:14

Someone in my book group WhatsApps today that they couldn’t understand why more people don’t vote Scottish greens. Mind blown! Mind utterly blown! Do these people not follow Scottish politics at all??? Okay if you are keen on the environment and have no idea what the Scottish greens wider policies actually are, you could be fooled. But surely not everyone is that ignorant.

🙈

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 06/07/2024 04:23

I'm so delighted that the SNP got the kicking they deserved.

They thought they could do whatever the fuck they liked, ignoring public opinion and expecting that everyone would continue to "wheesht for Indy".

Well no, women WON'T wheesht. They ignored us at their peril.

Now they say they are going to listen? Too late. Bring on 2026!!

I hope to see Labour governments in both holyrood and Westminster working together for the good of the country. I'm sick of the grievance and division of the SNP.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 06/07/2024 04:29

yellowridinghood · 05/07/2024 22:14

Someone in my book group WhatsApps today that they couldn’t understand why more people don’t vote Scottish greens. Mind blown! Mind utterly blown! Do these people not follow Scottish politics at all??? Okay if you are keen on the environment and have no idea what the Scottish greens wider policies actually are, you could be fooled. But surely not everyone is that ignorant.

Did anyone answer?

Aurea · 06/07/2024 06:25

Apologies that this link is from the Daily Mail, but I thought the article is too good not to share. 🤣🤣🤣

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13605707/STEPHEN-DAISLEY-Sturgeons-stare-icy-probably-set-global-warming-decade.html

redfacebigdisgrace · 06/07/2024 07:52

That is absolutely hilarious @Aurea brilliant

Abhannmor · 06/07/2024 08:09

Apologies if it has already been discussed - but Tommy Sheppard explicitly blames the refusal to engage with women's groups and the obsession with genderology.

Along with the desire the get the Tories out of Westminster. It remains to be seen whether Labour will succumb to the same level of tokenistic ID politics. Very tempting when you don't want to tax, borrow or spend. Which is why governments are elected. But that's another story.

treadingonlego · 06/07/2024 08:11

Aurea · 06/07/2024 06:25

Apologies that this link is from the Daily Mail, but I thought the article is too good not to share. 🤣🤣🤣

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13605707/STEPHEN-DAISLEY-Sturgeons-stare-icy-probably-set-global-warming-decade.html

I wouldn't usually click on a Daily Mail article, but I'm glad I did! 🤣🤣🤣

'See no evil, hear no evil, deleted all evil in line with Scottish Government policy.'

'Some Unionists considered it poor judgement on ITV's part to hire Sturgeon as an election analyst. I totally agree. They put the woman who wrecked the SNP on telly and trained a camera on her all night as one SNP MP after another lost their seat — and they didn't even think to make it pay per view'

🤭🤣

Need to try and find the footage of Nicola Sturgeon with Joanna Cherry now!

BigBoysDontCry · 06/07/2024 08:31

Brilliant article @aurea
I wonder what Alison Thewlis is going to do with her wardrobe that is entirely filled with yellow clothes 🤔. The charity shop will be overwhelmed.

Jeezitneverends · 06/07/2024 09:13

That article’s great-there’s been a lot of much deserved venom gone into it 🤣

Waitwhat23 · 06/07/2024 09:19

I have no problem with an all-female panel but someone's probably reported it to Police Scotland as a hate crime.

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if the odious Gomersall, Herbert or Molly/Sparkles hadn't done just that.

Very funny article. Sums up the utter distaste many of us feel for the utter shower who have made Scottish politics a laughing stock. Nicola's slapped airse expression is a thing of beauty.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 06/07/2024 09:27

Abhannmor · 06/07/2024 08:09

Apologies if it has already been discussed - but Tommy Sheppard explicitly blames the refusal to engage with women's groups and the obsession with genderology.

Along with the desire the get the Tories out of Westminster. It remains to be seen whether Labour will succumb to the same level of tokenistic ID politics. Very tempting when you don't want to tax, borrow or spend. Which is why governments are elected. But that's another story.

Have you got a link for that? Was it not his club where Joanna Cherry had her event cancelled?

Ginny98 · 06/07/2024 10:01

yellowridinghood · 05/07/2024 22:14

Someone in my book group WhatsApps today that they couldn’t understand why more people don’t vote Scottish greens. Mind blown! Mind utterly blown! Do these people not follow Scottish politics at all??? Okay if you are keen on the environment and have no idea what the Scottish greens wider policies actually are, you could be fooled. But surely not everyone is that ignorant.

Some of us support trans rights, like the greens tax policies and are absolutely terrified of climate change

Waitwhat23 · 06/07/2024 10:11

Under the Bute House agreement, the Scottish Greens were given authority to actually push forward some of their ideas (despite their tiny share of the votes in every constituency).

What did we end up with? The utter failure of the DRS with the Scottish Government being sued for £150m and Lorna Slater (Co-convenor of the Scottish Greens) being named specifically in the action -

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24314329.slater-blamed-biffa-take-legal-action-deposit-return-scheme/

Slater blamed as Biffa seek compensation over scrapped Deposit Return Scheme

Former Green minister Lorna Slater has been named in court papers submitted by recycling firm Biffa over the botched deposit return scheme.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24314329.slater-blamed-biffa-take-legal-action-deposit-return-scheme

Abhannmor · 06/07/2024 10:22

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 06/07/2024 09:27

Have you got a link for that? Was it not his club where Joanna Cherry had her event cancelled?

It flitted across my FB. Can't find it now. Will have a root around.

Waitwhat23 · 06/07/2024 10:27

And the Scottish Greens appears to consist of a roving band of activists who swap in and out between the Greens, the SNP and standing as an Independent candidate, chasing the party who has the most women hating policies at that moment.

One activist was even too spit flecked for the Greens and was deselected, which I think surprised everybody.

Ginny98 · 06/07/2024 10:27

Sure. They made some bad decisions.

But show me a party who hasn’t.

At least their bad decisions were rooted in good intentions

Tories and the PPE scandal? Liz Truss? Immigration policy? Covid parties?

And the other parties aren’t immune from bad decisions either - SNP and calmac?

Labour and Gaza?

I didn’t vote Green, mainly because my main objective was to entirely obliterate the tories, but I totally understand why someone might.

Waitwhat23 · 06/07/2024 10:31

Ginny98 · 06/07/2024 10:27

Sure. They made some bad decisions.

But show me a party who hasn’t.

At least their bad decisions were rooted in good intentions

Tories and the PPE scandal? Liz Truss? Immigration policy? Covid parties?

And the other parties aren’t immune from bad decisions either - SNP and calmac?

Labour and Gaza?

I didn’t vote Green, mainly because my main objective was to entirely obliterate the tories, but I totally understand why someone might.

They couldn't do the little they were given to do properly, in a situation where they were handed Junior Minister positions.

How on earth could anyone think that they'd do any better if they were actually in a position of power?

PrimalLass · 06/07/2024 10:56

What do you mean by trans rights @Ginny98? Specifically.

Ginny98 · 06/07/2024 11:15

PrimalLass · 06/07/2024 10:56

What do you mean by trans rights @Ginny98? Specifically.

Believing that trans people should be free from harassment and discrimination.

So supporting gender recognition reform, for example

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