Shall we have a Scotsnet general election thread?

[JennyLake]

This WILL be interesting. Even if it doesn’t rid us of the SNP from Holyrood, it will provide a good barometer of public opinion on the recent exploits of the SNP.

Farewell Blackman and Black!

I'm in favour of home rule, and I've voted SNP most of my life. I've grown to despise them however under Sturgeon's cynical and controlling leadership. All she was interested in was remaining FM, and she ensured same by continually exploiting the (sizeable, to be fair) single issue voters - she did that very well. There are still many who consider her to have been a brilliant leader, in spite of her record demonstrating entirely the opposite - not least the dial on Independence (the SNP's entire raison d'etre!) not shifting an inch in her entire tenure.

It has to be accepted that the majority of people in Scotland want to remain in the union - it's been consistently clear now over many years, thus having a governing party in Scotland who will concentrate all their efforts on issues like COL and education is the sensible (the only!) option.

I disagree that it's an anti snp echo chamber. It's just that pro SNP tend to overdominate in general and anti snp/independence folk tend to just keep schtum and let them get on with it. I think that's why the "No" vote was a surprise to them.

The SNP has been a disaster for Scotland and their coalition with the Greens even worse.

I'm politically homeless but a coalition of non separatists in Holyrood would be the best outcome.

Devolution under the SNP has been a mistake.

Interesting. I feel very differently. SNP have not, as far as I know, partied during lockdown, sold off contracts on unusable PPE to their mates, had a leader who made racist comments about “watermelon pickannniny smiles”, taken us out of the EU, led a hate rhetoric on migrants that has enabled the growth of Reform, planned £45 billion of unfunded tax cuts to tank the economy, and I could go on and on.

@kikisparks I think the SNP might have done better had they respected the Indy vote and parked pushing constantly for another one so soon. Couldn’t expect them to abandon the idea, after all it’s their reason for being. But focus on the country’s essentials, for everyone. Too much energy spent on this, at the wrong time.

That and the nonsense policies with the Greens like GRR - again, no matter your views on the issue, it was never a priority and wasted so much time, money and effort when real focus should have been elsewhere.

I think this too. Scotland is a shambles and the focus needs to be on rebuilding now

The SNP has failed on the majority of their policies - attainment, waiting times, gender recognition, ferries, emissions, policing, gas and oil.
Aren't you fed up of them manipulating (to keep their jobs!) you on the constitutional question? Being ordered to avert your gaze from their abysmal failings and instead point your finger at London. You must know it's exploitation? You must have noticed they haven't improved on support for independence a jot in the last 10 years?

Yes I think they’re between a rock and a hard place and have been since referendum. The pro Indy supporters don’t think they’ve done enough to deliver this (not really much more they can do though) and the unionists think they focus too much on it (even though I don’t think I’ve heard much about it from them since Westminster blocked a further referendum).

The Scottish Green Party coalition, which I initially thought was a good thing, just resulted in SNP having to push through legislation over policy that nobody was interested in or that was downright unworkable.

The SNP also said they would fix wraparound care.

It's interesting that despite the absolute tanking the SNP have had that this thread is being seen as an anti-SNP echo chamber, rather than, you know, reflective of the general population...

Well if this is an echo chamber, there are quite a few people in it now, based on the polls...

Definition of an echo chamber:

“an environment in which a person encounters only beliefs or opinions that coincide with their own, so that their existing views are reinforced and alternative ideas are not considered.”

Of course there are a lot of people in Scotland that do not support SNP. Some people clearly still vote for them both in constituencies where they lost and those where they won but that is not reflected on Scotsnet.

Just laughing at an SNP supporter trying to explain to non SNP people what an echo chamber is 😂😂😂😂

I know. 9 seats and still digging in 👌😂

Some people clearly still vote for them both in constituencies where they lost and those where they won but that is not reflected on Scotsnet

It's also not been reflected in the election results...

The SNP keep saying more than half of Scots want independence
This is simply not true
This election was to be a de facto referendum
Well you have been telt
Agaim

I’m irritated by the SNP coming out today saying they’ve lost votes due to everyone voting tactically to get the goriest out of Westminster…. How about the people who didn’t vote for SNP just didn’t want SNP? Our previous (SNP) MP was bond idle! Glad he’s out!

Of course it is. Are you saying nobody voted SNP?

Because people are denying this is one but it clearly is 🤷‍♀️

Just get on with governing the country FFS. Less independence, gender nonsense and hate speech crap. People are NOT INTERESTED !! This result shouts that loud and clear. Not to mention the dodgy dealing, arrogance and general not listening to the population. Thank f@ck they’re out. They’ve been awful for Scotland. Even my independence (in theory) pals think they’re shit. Thank f@ck we didn’t get independence is all I can say. And to the SNP supporter- with an ongoing police investigation I don’t think you can take the high moral ground over the Tories and their shenanigans.

My goal was to get the SNP out.

I do agree with this @kikisparks

If you think pro SNP views are not reflected on mumsnet then you are free to start threads and post on threads with the alternative views. You also realise that most folk on here live in the real world too eh? They are involved and participate on other fora, have jobs/engage with other people outside of their own family etc.

If anything, you could argue that mumsnet users in general are maybe a higher level of education and social interest than average, maybe that means that blind faith to a political party or support because of the emotion rather than the facts is higher than average.

I think you'll find that posters on here are less surprised at the scale of the SNP defeat than those sitting in the SNP echo chamber.

I also voted to oust the SNP, so I've gone from a slimy arrogant useless lazy fuckwit with a yellow rosette to a greedy, lazy useless fuckwit in a red tie - plus ca change...

An interesting development (from STV twitter account) -

'NO RESULT TODAY: Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire Recounts have failed to verify the votes in the battleground seat between the SNP and Lib Dems. A further recount has been set for 10.30am on Saturday. Meaning the final picture in Scotland will not be complete today'

lost votes due to everyone voting tactically to get the goriest out of Westminster

Our constituency voted Lib Dem to get rid of the SNP. As per, the nats are taking the simplistic view and not looking closer to home, they have fucked up royally.

I think @Waitwhat23 that means it's too close to call, send everyone home to sleep and start over tomorrow.