SNP shenanigans continued…

[TheBelmont]

A follow on to…
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/scotsnet/4778465-sturgeons-husband-arrested

Thought I’d get a new thread going as we are perilously close to filling the last and I for one am enjoying watching events unfold in your good company!

buckle up…it’s gonna be a bumpy ride….😁

Well, it's not his cash, is it? It's ours.

Whether you lke the SNP or not, I think blaming them for trying some measures to contain COVID in 2020 is a bit rich. Hindsight is a wonderful thing when it comes to the COVID pandemic. There wasn't enough information to only make decisions based on scientific data. Nobody fully understood how the virus transmittted. Nobody really knew how effective different measures would be. The only way to find out was to try them.

What like cutting of the bottom of doors? 🙄

Or sending untested people home from hospitals into care homes?

There was existing advice on what to do in a pandemic situation. Very few countries actually followed it. If they had we would have been in a better place. It's obviously sad when any of us lose a loved one but we basically irreparably damaged our children and society to try to save the lives of people who were already at/over the average age of death.

Dreadful decisions were taken but we had Sturgeon treating it as some sort of competition for political clout and self promotion. She's a disgusting human being as are all the others who had power to do things differently and just went along with what she told them.

They were told by some of their scientific advisors it wasn't possible to have zero covid due to transmission rates.....yet they ignored those and decided to follow a harsher measure because they wanted to and frankly some of their rules were just plain stupid.....not limited to but including:

Forcing skiing/snowboarding sites to shut (outdoors automatically a metre from each other) but allowing golf, football stadiums (where you sat next to people), fan zones etc.

No singing in churches/funerals etc

No dancing

No going into a takeaway....that was a weird one!

No travelling to England because it was a big bad covid area.....

Keeping Glasgow under the tightest restrictions for over 6 months

No softplays for nearly 16 months....despite allowing football matches and attendance, pubs and night life oh and then the now first minister at the time incorrectly stating softplays had led to children being seriously ill.......

There are definitely a lot more!
So it's pretty gauling to say well nobody knew actually they did and their own scientific advisors told them they just chose to ignore it!

@Aaron95 banning entertainment in pubs was never going to do anything.
It was amongst the many, many non-scientific stupid rules, it was safe to go out to lunch but not dinner aye covid could tell the time.
A coke was safe but not with a vodka in it wtaf.
A pub was safe but not with a guy playing a guitar or the telly on.

Really did you belive that shit?

SNP were all about flag waving covid was used as a stage - look how much we care - nothing else matter fire didn't matter, people's MH didn't matter, nor did the economy matter.

I don’t understand the blind loyalty to the SNP that seems to drive the ‘you can’t criticise the Scottish government because…’ responses.

It was pretty obvious at the time that many of the stupid and draconian rules were purely designed to play into the ‘taking things more seriously than that fool boris’ story.

Scottish children got a particularly shitty deal out of that.

@SquidwardBound It's because the SNP were incredibly effective at equating national pride with support for the SNP. They did it brilliantly. Net result is that if you do not support the SNP many will accuse you of being 'anti-Scottish'. It's not true but its a pervasively held belief.

if you do not support the SNP many will accuse you of being 'anti-Scottish'.

Yes, that was the line their "independent advisor" Devi whatsit came out with. if you don't support independence, you're anti-Scottish

You certainly wouldn’t have enough information if you were asking a GP, a dentist and Gynaecologist. But people aren’t blaming them for having to make decisions on limited evidence, we are blaming them for not seeking out the evidence and making political decisions based on doing something different to England regardless of the harm to people in Scotland.

Whether you lke the SNP or not, I think blaming them for trying some measures to contain COVID in 2020 is a bit rich. Hindsight is a wonderful thing when it comes to the COVID pandemic. There wasn't enough information to only make decisions based on scientific data. Nobody fully understood how the virus transmittted. Nobody really knew how effective different measures would be. The only way to find out was to try them.

They actually in all seriousness wanted to cut the bottom off school doors.

They sent elderly people with Covid into care homes.

Do I need to say any more?

That's it exactly they were making political decisions just to be different.

If it wasn't for WM Eat Out to Help Out what break in restrictions was the hospitality trade going to have?

Glasgow had the longest most draconian restrictions anywhere. No visitors in the house from 1st September 2000 to May 2021. But it was safe to meet in a busy McDonald's rammed with a 100 other folk all thinking the same thing?

Where was the science?
What did that do to people's MH ?
What about folk who couldn't afford to go and eat out?
How many folk got done for being parked in McDonald's csrpark too long??

If it wasn't for WM Eat Out to Help Out what break in restrictions was the hospitality trade going to have?

Aberdeen hospitality trade missed this due to a lock down at a level which was quickly surpassed elsewhere without lockdown

Herself is on the stand at the Covid enquiry today. Let's see what she has to say about her "decision making".

ITS BOGGIN WEATHER AH MIGHT NO MAKE IT

I’m expecting
”I don’t recall”
on repeat
we won't get any answers…just more lies, deflection and impassioned responses designed to stir up the indie massive into hysteria about how Saint Nicola saved us from the Evil Boris Clown.

Whether you lke the SNP or not, I think blaming them for trying some measures to contain COVID in 2020 is a bit rich

The SNP tied themselves up in knots to be different to Westminster, and many of us suffered because of that with no benefit to the figures. The SNP were only ever interested in the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon's daily political broadcast.

Saint Nicky is on the stand? This should be interesting. I wonder how many things she won’t be able to remember, or how many times she’ll say difficult decisions or Westminster. We should start a game of bingo.

BTW - anyone know what’s happening with the police investigation into the swampy murk of the SNP finances? It’s all gone very quiet.

Watched some of John Swinney and Kate Forbes yesterday. Pretty shocking that Kate Forbes was neither aware of nor invited to "Gold Command" meetings. Also that JS said the decision to close schools (I think in Jan 21) was a conversation between him and Nicola !

Thought we were supposed to have cabinet government.

That's it though @readsalotgirl63 . It was clear that Sturgeon was ruling with an iron fist and making all the decisions. For political reasons not Covid reasons. Drawing on the "skills" of a very limited number of advisers, all of whom were telling her what she wanted to hear.

Unfortunately I can predict exactly how this will play out. Lots of "don't recall" and political posturing about tories, and "keeping us all safe". Maybe some minor admission that yes, thinking about sawing 6 inches off the bottom of doors in school was a mistake. But the big stuff? Got it absolutely right and would do the same again. 🙄

is it just me or is there no sound? I'm watching online.

Blessing in disguise that you can't hear her imho.

sound working now. coughing person annoying me.

I don’t know if it’s just the way she is but even now she’s speaking to him in such a patronising way

All those people sucked in to the posturing about ‘protecting the people’ utter BS and politicians U.K. wide using WhatsApp for such sensitive and serious business, then deleting their chat like teenagers after a break up 🙄

I hope she forgets the script in her head and her performance goes into meltdown. I hope the inquiry contributes to the end of the toytown council being in charge of uk residents during any future crisis. Stay in your lane, McNumpties.

Odd that it took the Israelis months 3 months to announce that UN workers were involved with the Oct 7th attack. And they made this claim the day after the International Court of Justice made its ruling against them. Odd is one word anyway....