Guilt Free Railing 10

[WouldBeGood]

Is the end nigh?

America's a bit bonkers keen on very young children wearing masks.

Well DS loved being in England and corresponding mask-freedom

@GoldenOmbernis it law though?

@NotSoLongGoodbye

Well DS loved being in England and corresponding mask-freedom

We are enjoying our trip and not having to prebook everything! So far DS has been having a ball and we are due to take him swimming by shock horror just turning up!

Wedding to come at the weekend which is allowed to be completely normal and the way it should be!

Mask rules for children are even more of a pain in the arse for days out and holidays if you don't drive. My DC who are old enough for masks are fine to go around a shop for ten minutes, but get whingy and grumbly and fed up after an hour train journey in the heat, let alone longer than that. Holidays up north will not be happening for a while, I suppose.

When you rely on public transport to get your family around, it does get a bit grating to hear people who don't tell you that that masks are only a little tiny thing and what's the problem, we're all adults aren't we...

[quote tiredoftiers]@GoldenOmbernis it law though?[/quote]
I don't know, maybe depends on where you live? It's certainly the rule for some schools and nurseries.

@mibbelucieachwell

My DC are adults now but I think about schools a lot. Partly because I work with school age children but also because I'm horrified at the continuing 'mitigation' that they have to endure. Parents of younger children will you keep them off school if they have symptoms until the symptoms are gone then send them back to school without testing? That's what I'd do I reckon.

resilience do you think there will be an exemption for people who had covid within 90 days? How to make covid parties like chicken pox parties very popular.

Did secondary pupils still have to wear masks when seated in the classroom last term. Or was it only England that masks in corridors only?

It's as if kids are being punished for going to school.

One of our youngest had to do a test, I doubt I'd be able to get him to do another one, so in that case, yes I guess he would have to stay home until well again.

I have never agreed with primary school kids having to wear masks! Another illogical thing they don't wear them sat in a classroom all day why on earth do they have to in a shop or indoor setting! Especially when they said no social distancing was required for children under 12 and adults...... Makes no sense whatsoever!

@Scottishskifun totally agree. So many anomalies and contradictions. I’ve very much brought my children up to have enquiring minds, but also to obey the rules. However when my children can independently see the contradictions in the rules it does nothing to encourage their adherence to the rules.
Curious..... do they have to be worn at soft play??

Soft play - children need to wear masks when walking from door to tables/seats. Not when playing in the actual play bit because that counts as 'exercise'.

@frasersmummy

I missed the update today ..have we had any word on what the exams/assessments will look like this year and do we have any idea when she will lift the wfh order ..

Sorry I can't find info on either

She wants employers to consider hybrid working... part office part home or at home fully from today's update.

@tiredoftiers children don't in the actual softplay or if seated. The ones we have been to in Scotland (and England before restrictions lifted) the parents still have to in the softplay area if helping a child.

I can only hope that many places will just let people get on with it just got to hope the "covid mask police" aka rude people shut up too!

We've already stopped making the kids wear masks - well, I just 'forget' and no-one has challenged it. I don't see many kids with masks round here, so I think most people are quietly ignoring that rule as it makes no sense anyway

Only good thing is that I think that’s the SNP finished now. Even the faithful not out in force

I don't even know what the rules for children and masks are so even if I was a mask supporter and reporter, I wouldn't have a clue. Perfectly happy to see kids (AND adults) without them tbh.

Masks all day for children

I was thinking, with children, by the time they got a PCR test and had the result the symptoms might be better. But there would still be another week of compulsory staying at home. I could see myself quietly keeping a child home until symptoms went. Especially as my understanding is that the virus is most infectious just before symptoms appear and for the first couple of days of symptoms.

She is never going to ditch the masks is she? 😢

What are the current rules in Wales and Northern Ireland on masks?

@WouldBeGood

Only good thing is that I think that’s the SNP finished now. Even the faithful not out in force

You'd like to think so but plenty folk, including some on here, can't see past them.

I did read something about Gove's statement about a referendum if it's the settled will of the people, saying that settled will could also be those who are anti independence and if there were clear remain polls for long enough, the remain side could also call a referendum to confirm and shut up the debate for a while. Risky strategy maybe?

I e been ranting on social media all day and no defence

Also saw something about the replacement for the Uni erasmus thing saying the new scheme includes far more countries and will also be open to far more students. Won't see that being mentioned by NS or SNP though.

With this shambles and the hard border nonsense, I reckon that’s it. DP well over them now.

do you think there will be an exemption for people who had covid within 90 days? How to make covid parties like chicken pox parties very popular.

Good point mibbe! There may be. Though you'd generally only be able to use that "get out" once, so not sure the Covid parties would be too helpful.

In fact, the more I think about how children (and teachers) are being screwed over, the angrier I'm getting. So presumably any children now having to isolate because of covid, or being a to-be-tested contact, or failing to get a negative PCR, won't get any "live" teaching, because the teachers (assuming they aren't contacts) will be teaching the rest of the class in school. That's pretty unfair, surely, especially for exam years. And other students - likely those who need the most help and support anyway - may just treat it as a 10 day holiday from school. Both of which will require teachers to do extra work to bring the individuals back up to speed when they return (or by providing additional work when they're off), rather than trying to keep the whole class together through online learning if the whole class is off. It's still pretty shitty for all involved, even though fewer people will be affected, theoretically.

@runningpink

She is never going to ditch the masks is she? 😢

What are the current rules in Wales and Northern Ireland on masks?

Wales due to change on the 7th still required in shops/transport/health and social settings not required for schools, hospitality or nightclubs.

Not sure on NI (have friends in Wales)

It's all control, don't get rid of everything and then it's easier just to ramp everything back up again when there is a bit of a resurgence in the Autumn.

Does anyone seriously still think that this makes any sense or is any way useful or stopping anything?

I need my mask 😭😭 how else can I mouth fuck you without being punched in the mouth.

Honestly I do wear mine but not when with the children at work, so wear it on the gate or if I am in the classroom with other staff. But it's a pain taking it off and on.