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WouldBeGood · 09/07/2021 21:09

Nine!!!

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Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 30/07/2021 09:00

"I do feel that babies and pre schoolers it was largely thought they would be fine and no effect as they won't remember type thing. Whereas now they are finding the opposite with development etc."

I agree that this seems to have been the thinking, with the closing of parks and the closing of nurseries in January for 'safety' despite any evidence that pre schoolers were major transmitters (although this last one was just Scotland to be fair, and I think I remember them saying it was to stop parents from socialising...). It really doesn't seem to have occurred to anyone that very small children need to interact with other children and indeed adults for their development. You can also see it with the isolation guidelines for children - even primary school aged children who are pinged expected to spend over a week in solitary isolation away from their family, and to hell with the psychological trauma that might cause. Toddlers expected to get a COVID test every time they get a cold, to the point where my children have developed a serious phobia of the testing centre and have a melt down at the very mention of it. I seriously doubt that there has been anyone on the committees making these decisions who understands/cares about the needs of children, and it's all been about stopping spread at any cost.

shouldistop · 30/07/2021 10:14

Before lockdown last March ds1 didn't like speaking to strangers, he'd hide behind me if someone spoke to him when we were out.
About 2 weeks after lockdown he started calling out to people passing the garden and want to show them his toys or tell them what he was playing. It was like he was craving interaction with other people.
He was 3 when all of this started, my big boy turns 5 tomorrow. Feeling so emotional this week, like his pre-school time has been stolen from us.

Ladylunchalot · 30/07/2021 10:29

Thoroughly pissed off at the ASD/ADHD referral process yet again. Was horrendous when ds was referred and it took 2 years to get his ASD diagnosis. We complained at the time and were told the whole process was being looked into and was being streamlined. Great news I thought.
Ha bloody ha, more fool me. Dd has now been referred and I phoned yesterday to find out waiting times from this new streamlined service to be told they are working on referrals from June 2019 and they can't say how long it will take as their service stopped for 1 year due to covid.
No difference since 2018 until now then as it's going to take at least 2 years for dd to be seen. She's going to be in S4 after the holidays and I really worry about her. Her school won't put any support in place unless they have a formal diagnosis. Had to go private to get her visual Stress diagnosis before they could help.
Utterly pissed off at covid yet again being something to hide behind for shoddy service. I work for this health board and certainly haven't stopped due to covid. Dd still got to see camhs last year via near me service.

Lockdownbear · 30/07/2021 10:33

I definitely think the needs of preschoolers has been forgotten, including masks and the muffled voices kids aren't hearing words properly so aren't repeated them properly either.
Very embarrassing when your 4yo miss-pronounces the word truck in front of family and nobody is quite sure what he is trying to say Blush.

I also feel like kids have been robbed of this year. It's just disappeared. I did think about deferring school but I don't think it's the right decision for LO. Nor is their any guarantee that places like the Science center will be open. So no real benefit to having extra time at home.

A friend met a family on holiday who's 2yo was terrified of everyone including then DGPs so they were hoping time on holiday together would maybe help LO get used to them.

At one point after the first lockdown someone on MN pointed out a study by Oxford that the worse affected group was 7yos. I do wonder what the thoughts are now.

IncludeWomenInThePrequel · 30/07/2021 11:00

@Lockdownbear my daughter pronounced chocolate as 'cock' and crisps as 'piss' until she had speech therapy at age 4...

forfucksakenett · 30/07/2021 11:00

[quote IncludeWomenInThePrequel]@Lockdownbear my daughter pronounced chocolate as 'cock' and crisps as 'piss' until she had speech therapy at age 4...[/quote]
I love this so much. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

forfucksakenett · 30/07/2021 11:01

Although I do appreciate it must have been a bit embarrassing.

IncludeWomenInThePrequel · 30/07/2021 11:05

Oh it was brilliant being in the local Co-Op Grin

ResilienceWanker · 30/07/2021 11:11

[quote IncludeWomenInThePrequel]@Lockdownbear my daughter pronounced chocolate as 'cock' and crisps as 'piss' until she had speech therapy at age 4...[/quote]
Grin Fab! DS was convinced buggies were buggers for quite some time...Blush

ElephantOfRisk · 30/07/2021 11:14

Friends DD insisted she wanted cop porn in the shops and wouldn't be dissuaded.

Lockdownbear · 30/07/2021 11:30

[quote IncludeWomenInThePrequel]@Lockdownbear my daughter pronounced chocolate as 'cock' and crisps as 'piss' until she had speech therapy at age 4...[/quote]
Glad I'm not alone. I'm hoping it will come OK just correcting him once we figure out what he's talking about.

IncludeWomenInThePrequel · 30/07/2021 11:30

Oh my god, yes, cockporn!! Forgot she said that too.

It was wild before the speech therapist took her in hand Grin

WouldBeGood · 30/07/2021 11:59

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riverrunning · 30/07/2021 14:04

ladylunchalot those waiting times are hideous - it's utterly unacceptable for someone in s4 at a critical point in their education to have to wait that long. My nephew caught a break - nothing was put in place for him before key exams due to waiting times but he got predicted grades.

Of course a child scared of sitting exams has now moved onto the next stage of education with still nonsupport in place...

Ladylunchalot · 30/07/2021 14:17

@riverrunning your poor nephew, I honestly don't think they think of the kids as individuals, just referrals.
I've contacted my msp for guidance before I make a formal complaint to my health board, not holding my breath as she was useless before. Looking into going private but not all councils will accept a non NHS diagnosis and I'm sure mine is one of them. So frustrating.

ElephantOfRisk · 30/07/2021 14:21

Even with no formal diagnosis, DSs schools were able to put some measures in place for them sitting exams, using ICT, extra time, in a separate room etc so if any of that type of stuff would be helpful, your nephew's parent should speak to the school involved for support. I think mine had a session with one of the school support staff who was able to sort this for them.

ElephantOfRisk · 30/07/2021 14:23

Friend managed to get similar for her DS with a letter from a GP based on the issues he would have with stress making him need access to a toilet and this stressing him even more in a big exam hall. He was able to get to use a seperate room with just a couple of other students and made a huge difference to his exam performance.

riverrunning · 30/07/2021 15:16

Parents shouldn't have to find money for all this private stuff. It's good that some schools are able to put things in place, my dsis does her best but I don't know how well she advocates based on what seems to happen - I live too far away to be any use. I know the school suggested the referral (he already has one dx).

Mostly I wanted to sympathise with lady and hope that wait list isn't as bad as it looks.

ElephantOfRisk · 30/07/2021 15:24

DS2s handwriting was so bad that you couldn't tell which way up the paper should be but I was told that he didn't have dyspraxia as he could play the guitar. Hmm So, he was 17 before he was diagnosed and it had a huge impact on him in terms of his mental health. Once he knew there was a reason he was so poor in his organisational skills etc he became much more open about using strategies to help and is managing Uni with no extra support and doing really well.

DS1 has never been diagnosed with anything but we were told that any assessment for ASD would be borderline and he's been unwilling to take things any further, he also has shocking handwriting but can produce lovely writing if required and is good at art and technical drawing etc.

It's definitely worth asking school what they can help with as that actually went relatively smoothly (after being chased one or two times).

riverrunning · 30/07/2021 16:56

That's great to hear elephant - it's always tricky with children that seem to cope some of the time whether and what to pursue.

Ladylunchalot · 30/07/2021 18:20

Even with DD struggling to read text because of the colour she was told they were limited as to what could be done without a formal diagnosis. We had to pay a specialist optician for the formal diagnosis of visual Stress. I've now got the official diagnosis so can hand that into the school.
Re being evaluated for ADHD and ASD the high school have said they cannot do anything without a formal diagnosis so we're pretty much screwed.
Sad thing is I know we're not alone in this and many more families are facing this too

Groovee · 31/07/2021 06:29

@Ladylunchalot

Even with DD struggling to read text because of the colour she was told they were limited as to what could be done without a formal diagnosis. We had to pay a specialist optician for the formal diagnosis of visual Stress. I've now got the official diagnosis so can hand that into the school. Re being evaluated for ADHD and ASD the high school have said they cannot do anything without a formal diagnosis so we're pretty much screwed. Sad thing is I know we're not alone in this and many more families are facing this too
So much for GIRFEC.
WouldBeGood · 31/07/2021 07:58

DD only now assessed by a private psychologist as having ASD. She’s 19, and working. Her schooldays were a misery and I’d been trying to get help since she was in primary two.

I feel relieved that it’s been confirmed, as does she, but also incredibly let down.

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latissimusdorsi · 31/07/2021 12:50

That's sad and actually quite shocking @WouldBeGood
Why is it it so difficult to get a proper diagnosis?
I know there's long waiting lists but surely not 13 yrsConfused
Is it because medical professionals just don't see the issues a parent sees?
I thought a mother's instinct was quite a well recognised concept

Groovee · 31/07/2021 14:20

I've bought myself new pans. I'm so boring these days.

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