Scunnered .... *insert tier pun

[dancemom]

New thread, couldn't think of a title 🙈

We're pretty low again there, although it was a Sunday I suppose.

Free us, Nic!

*Hadn't said that for a while 😃

@WouldBeGood

Free us, Nic!

No fucking chance.

Number of tests conducted has plummeted. Always thought this would be the case. No one wants to ruin school holidays with asymptomatic testing at random.
Our percentage of the UK hospital total is also higher than it should be for our percentage of population.
Be interesting to see if there is just a lag and will drop or if it's just that the less you seek the less you find

So stop bloody seeking, I say

That wasn’t meant to be rude to you @Calmdown14, but to the SG and general public

Saw a story talking about how loads have been deregistering the app but they said they also have no idea how many just deleted it or ignore it/don't use it.

Then there are the millions who didn't download it in the first place. DH has only now become aware that there is/was an app...

I don’t know anyone with the app

"Number of tests conducted has plummeted. Always thought this would be the case. No one wants to ruin school holidays with asymptomatic testing at random."

I just saw this, and yes, for the last week or so you can pretty much overlay the number of positives with the number of tests, so perhaps this drop off in cases isn't quite as encouraging as it looks at first glance. It just goes to show though that the asymptomatic testing is (probably) just inflating the numbers for no real purpose at this point. I have to admit I wouldn't dare take a test 'just in case' now in case it did come back positive, because that would ruin not only my plans but various other family member plans too! I'd be surprised if there are many who are happy to sacrifice a chunk of their summer to isolation for some spurious 'positive' when they aren't even ill.

Yes, I agree youcannot! The % positive is pootling along at 8 or 9 %, and though it's fallen a little bit from the peak earlier in the month, it's nowhere near as pronounced as the fall off in cases. So I think it does seem largely to be linked to testing numbers. But hospitalisations and ICU cases do seem to be plateauing in the past week, so that may suggest we are over an actual peak, and not just an artificial one?

A quick questions about vaccines:

My 19 year old son has just received his at a drop in centre. He is registered at a GP practice at his uni in England. He lives in Scotland with us during vacations so the vaccination centre did not have any record of him.

All he had to give (a little worryingly) is his name, postcode and mobile number. No other evidence was required.

How do they tie up the individual and give evidence of vaccination if people have not had a letter due to not being registered in Scotland for health purposes? I have mine own vaccination registered on the NHS website.

Thanks

@Calmdown14

Number of tests conducted has plummeted. Always thought this would be the case. No one wants to ruin school holidays with asymptomatic testing at random. Our percentage of the UK hospital total is also higher than it should be for our percentage of population. Be interesting to see if there is just a lag and will drop or if it's just that the less you seek the less you find

I thought that lateral flow tests didn't appear in the overall figures.

If they do the number of tests will definitely have gone down as a lot of schools required staff to test (as opposed to my own, where it was optional). In these cases staff will not be required to take tests over the holidays.

@Aurea has he ever been registered with a GP in Scotland while living at your postcode?

Yes. He was registered in his home town in Scotland before he left for uni. He registered at a GP in England in October 2019. Up til then he had been resident in Scotland his whole life.

They may have found him on the system using that information. It's linked to CHI number so Im surprised they didn't ask for dob though.
He can probably get his username through nhs inform and get his proof of vaccine that way.

Thanks Sootess.

They didn't ask for anything else and he could have been anyone. The system is very open to misuse and fraud.

Those of you who have had second jags, do you get an appointment letter in the post? I have my second jag at the beginning of august according to website but I haven't received a letter yet and don't know whether to expect one?

Thanks again!

What kind of misuse though? People going for repeated jags?

Definitely had a letter for second. Jab

@Aurea

Yes. He was registered in his home town in Scotland before he left for uni. He registered at a GP in England in October 2019. Up til then he had been resident in Scotland his whole life.

There is no crossover between the two systems. We were on holiday in England a couple of weeks ago and I had to go to a Devon minor injuries walk-in with a nasty infected insect bite.

My G postcode wouldn't work on the system. They couldn't find my GP practice on their database, I had to write the address on a piece of paper. They couldn't register me using the address of the accommodation where we were staying. They asked if I had my NHS number with me - unsurprisingly I did not. So I was registered for treatment as a "foreigner".

The first minister confirms that a further 1,604 people have tested positive for Covid – which is 9.2% of the tests carried out yesterday.
This takes the total number of positive cases in Scotland to 332,455.
There are 529 people in hospital with recently confirmed Covid-19, a decrease of seven, and 47 in intensive care, up two from yesterday.
There have also been 13 more deaths recorded in the past 24 hours of people who tested positive in the previous 28 days.
That brings the total number of deaths by that measurement to 7,813

Thanks @dancemom, number of positive tests down, clearly as a result of schools being closed for the summer.

I don't think lateral flows are in the figures but a positive lateral flow then requires a PCR but if you don't test in the first place (because you have no symptoms) you aren't going for the latter.
Testing your kids to go in school versus potentially ruining your holiday....we are all making the same choices (when asymptomatic of course).
We have 12 per cent of UK hospital admissions but only 8 per cent of the population. And Only 4 per cent of UK positive tests.
So either hospital admissions should start dropping rapidly, we have a more unhealthy population or our testing doesn't reflect true numbers.
We'll find out in next few weeks

We have 12 per cent of UK hospital admissions but only 8 per cent of the population. And Only 4 per cent of UK positive tests.

That's really interesting. I've been noticing lately that our death rate is much higher than the rest of the UK too (both within 28 days of a test and in excess deaths). Part of it will be the result of our earlier peak, but the timescales (months) suggest that's not the whole story. I wonder if, as you say, our population is a bit less healthy. Scotland suffers from poorer health at the best of times and a year of harsher restrictions won't have helped the population to destress and look after themselves. I guess we'll find out in the next few weeks.

Scotland is well known for being less healthy, higher rates of heart disease, diebetes and high rates of obesity - all of which are higher risks in covid deaths so its not really a surprise.