Scunnered .... *insert tier pun

[dancemom]

New thread, couldn't think of a title 🙈

We decided we would still go if one of us got contact traced and had to isolate, just wouldn't be able to go out and about much. we wouldn't go if someone actually tested positive. But we're one family, away in Scotland by car and in self catering cottage so really no risk to anyone
Fortunately hasn't come to that

That's odd lizzie. I thought it was only universal to over 18s, with some 16/ 17 year olds allowed it if they were vulnerable or worked in care or similar. The NHS Scotland website still says that here.

It could have changed, but I think the BBC may have got confused and implied that because some 16 yr olds can get it, the intention is they all do.

And yes - I think to be honest I'd be the same rookiemere. Im just so socialised to follow rules, whether or not they make sense . I'd have been absolutely shit in the resistance or suffragettes or anything. This whole thing has made me see parts of my character that I really am not pleased about.

Thanks @ResilienceWanker, as you can possibly tell, I have a 17 yo going off to halls in September. Would be great to get him vaxxed before then.

Totally understandable! Especially given last year's debacle... I think some unis are arranging their own vaccine drives for august/ Sept (mainly for overseas students who may not have been offered it in their home country - via the NHS, but using uni buildings etc) and I'd be really surprised if they didn't extend that to 17yo freshers given the overall public health benefits. Even though there would still be several weeks before immunity actually kicks in. I'm assuming there will be some announcement from NS over the summer about the plans - but, as per usual, higher education is waaaayyyy down the list of concerns, and they forget that this kind of thing take a long time to plan and arrange. So they can't just come up with a plan a week before term starts and expect all unis to just be able to manage it.

Just having a look on travellingtabby... anyone know why the cities seem to be doing the worst for vaccinations? I can't figure out if this was deliberate (since the cities probably have the best healthcare?) or if it's due to the councils being crap or just a coincidence.

I am a city dweller btw, not in any way saying the city folks deserve it any more than others, it just seems odd that the most densely populated parts would be so far behind? Surely it'd be easier to vaccinate there?

@nevernormal

Just having a look on travellingtabby... anyone know why the cities seem to be doing the worst for vaccinations? I can't figure out if this was deliberate (since the cities probably have the best healthcare?) or if it's due to the councils being crap or just a coincidence.

I am a city dweller btw, not in any way saying the city folks deserve it any more than others, it just seems odd that the most densely populated parts would be so far behind? Surely it'd be easier to vaccinate there?

Younger population in cities so as they've done it in age order, the cities lag behind.

I can't speak for other places but in Glasgow the Hydro isn't easy to get to by public transport, which may cause a problem for some in Glasgow.

I'd have thought there are higher numbers of minority communities in cities, too, which still seems to be having an impact.

Largest population group in Edinburgh and Glasgow is 25-44 so they're just vaccinating their main populations now. They must have been made to go at same rate as everywhere else so they've lagged behind % wise the whole time!

Another lack of critical thinking where it really matters.

I think there has been a bit of an issue with venues in lots of areas and the younger population are possibly more likely to be working and, in cities, less likely to have access to cars. I have family who were sent from East to West Lothian or from east side of Edinburgh out to the Highland show ground on the west. Not always easy if it means 2 or 3 changes of bus and you might have children in school.

Even DS in Aberdeen has to go somewhere on the outskirts of the city which takes ages on the bus. He can drive and has a car so is fine but he and is girlfriend are on different days and were struggling to get something together so he'll be on taxi duty for her appointment too.

All my family members have managed to work out their appointments but you can see how someone in a less than optimal position might not bother.

The West Lothian centre is great if you have a car but hideous otherwise

@latissimusdorsi

The West Lothian centre is great if you have a car but hideous otherwise

Yep, it was my niece who does have a car, but she also has a job and a young child. She managed to change it to the drive through in East Lothian.

My brother and wife enjoyed their double day trips out to the highland show ground from Portobello...but again they have a car and are retired.

Ingliston is only ever any good if you have a car! loads of people in West Lothian been sent there!
West Lothian centre is in an out of town business park between the M8 and Bathgate

Agreed - the way the cities seem to be doing it is probably efficient at getting loads of people through the doors, and directing them to a needle, with minimal cost and staff resource. But not so good for people popping in on the way to work, or between school runs or similar. They seem to have huge hubs, with people just directed to a random one, regardless of where you live. Fine if you have private transport and infinite time, but potentially not so good if you're reliant on buses or have childcare limitations. Some (I think the Musselburgh one?) don't even allow you in if you don't have a car

My trip from south Edinburgh to ingliston on buses took about 3.5 hours round trip (starting at our local health centre that had vaccinated over 70s and driving through another huge hub en route), and I was only in there for about 15-20 mins! And walking back into my street, saw my next door neighbour drive in, who had been to exactly the same place! That'll teach me to communicate with her a bit better next time . I'm v jealous of people being able to rock up to their local library or community centre in more rural areas.

Tbf, I'm in the south west so was done in Paisley, despite my postcode being Glasgow, so there's logic there.

DH was vaccinating in Fife this week. Only 20/200 had turned up by the time his shift ended at 3pm. And local youngsters have been given appointments 30 miles away on no bus / train routes from us as they are shutting all the small, local vaccine centres.

But, DD has her appointment next week (she is 19) so they are cracking through them but there is a very low turnout.

I don’t know if they are closing our local vaccination centre. There are other suitable halls available if the current one needs to be used again which I think it might. Everyone local now appears to be getting told to go to other locations. Some of which are 120 mile or 80 mile round trip! 🙄

I still can’t change my 2nd appointment to the local place.
Looking like a 2hour round trip and a complete inconvenience all round to me and my boss.
If I got my home town it would be 30mins maximum

Are most places doing early mornings and late evenings?
Earliest here is 9.30am and latest 5.55pm

Is there someone I can email about this? Or would I be wasting my time

@Haudyourwheesht

Tbf, I'm in the south west so was done in Paisley, despite my postcode being Glasgow, so there's logic there.

There are several vaccination centres near me, including Paisley, but I was sent to the Hydro... go figure!

@Cismyfatarse

DH was vaccinating in Fife this week. Only 20/200 had turned up by the time his shift ended at 3pm. And local youngsters have been given appointments 30 miles away on no bus / train routes from us as they are shutting all the small, local vaccine centres.

But, DD has her appointment next week (she is 19) so they are cracking through them but there is a very low turnout.

We are in Fife and oh got his second appointment through the other day. It's a distance from us, despite there being a vaccination centre in our town. His appointment is early evening, but due to rubbish public transport, which will take about an hour 40 minutes each way he has to take the whole day off work. It's crazy

@latissimusdorsi

Ingliston is only ever any good if you have a car! loads of people in West Lothian been sent there! West Lothian centre is in an out of town business park between the M8 and Bathgate

I stay 10 / 15 mins drive away from both Ingliston & the Pyramids one yet I had to go to EICC and loads of people here have had to go to Gorebridge or Haddington. Need to have a couple of weeks of drop ins for everyone, get through as many people as possible.

DH's appointment (Fife) is in a town a 90 minute round trip away by car. If you don't have a car, I don't think there's away to get there. Possibly 2/3 buses? How are people with kids and no public transport supposed to manage that?

Although, interestingly DH met a guy yesterday who works for the vaccination service who said there's no reason someone can't phone up and ask to go to, say, Dundee (4miles away) instead of Methil (40 minutes drive away).

We are pretty lucky as a rural area so our vaccine centre is in the local town hall. It does do a large area although there are buses from all surrounding villages available thankfully!

Our NHS trust has been doing drop in sessions once/twice a week for over 6 weeks now all over the place and are finding this is working best for the under 35s.

Meanwhile in the rUK:

nhs.uk is sharing a COVID-19 update.
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If you live in England and are 18+, you can get a COVID-19 vaccine from a walk-in vaccination site without an appointment.
Drop in at a walk-in site, which include football stadiums, theatres, supermarket car parks without needing to book: nhs.uk/grab-a-jab
#GrabAJab

@SoMuchForSummerLove

DH's appointment (Fife) is in a town a 90 minute round trip away by car. If you don't have a car, I don't think there's away to get there. Possibly 2/3 buses? How are people with kids and no public transport supposed to manage that?

Although, interestingly DH met a guy yesterday who works for the vaccination service who said there's no reason someone can't phone up and ask to go to, say, Dundee (4miles away) instead of Methil (40 minutes drive away).

Ah that's interesting! I had assumed (clearly incorrectly) that you wouldn't be able to go out with your nhs area for the vaccine.

I know in the past when needing out if hours we have had to beg to be seen in either Perth or Dundee rather than drive to Dunfermline. The gp surgery has posters up saying you can ask for Perth or Dundee but the call handlers are reluctant.

We have a vaccination centre less than a mile away from the house, yet most have to travel to ones 20 plus miles away with the majority not being easy to reach on public transport