Guilt Free Railing 8

[WouldBeGood]

Can’t believe it’s needed….

I'm someone with a science background and have spent several years in a virology institute, and @GoldenOmber has an excellent grasp of what is going on here. Very nice, clear, explanations.

Exactly, @Y0uCann0tBeSer10us.

On mumsnet there are a disproportionate number of teachers/pupils/marathon runners aged 30 affected by Covid, which is not reflected in the statistics.

Sure, if claiming that croup is more contagious than Covid and measles is a bigger danger to kids in the UK is a clear grasp of the situation 👍🏻

Measles is much more dangerous to children. Hence the routine vaccines.

Therefore it's no longer dangerous

Ditto Covid then @forfucksakenett as the oldsters are jagged 🤷🏻‍♀️

@forfucksakenett

Sure, if claiming that croup is more contagious than Covid and measles is a bigger danger to kids in the UK is a clear grasp of the situation 👍🏻

Well, yes, both of those pose more of a threat to children than COVID does. Are you suggesting that they don't? I'd be more worried about even sporadic Measles outbreaks than I am about wide spread COVID infection in terms of the impact on my children.

Have you got DCs @forfucksakenett? And are yiu a teacher, I forget?

Well that would be strange given measles hasn't killed a child in years. Croup is very rarely deadly but to be fair to you I have no idea how many daily cases of croup there are. There could be thousands I suppose. Would be interesting to know.

@WouldBeGood yes and yes. Why?

Just wondering, thanks

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us You're more worried about measles than covid, even with ( I assume) your children having had the mmr?

Why would you give children a vaccine that carries a risk to them when the illness doesn’t?

Because from what I can see the illness does carry a risk. Maybe not death but certainly other risks.

@WouldBeGood

Just wondering, thanks

That's strangely disconcerting.

@StarryEyeSurprise I don't give measles much thought on a day to day basis, but if there were an outbreak locally, yes I would theoretically be worried about my children despite them having been vaccinated, because vaccines don't always take and Measles is really a very serious disease. Conversely I'm not at all worried about them getting COVID because every child in the country, indeed the world, has been completely immersed in it for a year and the evidence is very clear that if they got it, they would not be at significant risk from it. Indeed, they appear to be at significantly less risk of complications than from other viruses that circulate every year.

@StarryEyeSurprise I'm more worried about measles for my baby who is too young for the mmr.
Sorry, I know you weren't asking me. Ds1 didn't get called for his mmr until he was 15 months despite me chasing from 12 months.

@forfucksakenett😂 sorry. No need to be disconcerted. Im surprised you’re a parent but unsurprised you’re a teacher. That’s all. No creepiness intended.

It’s accepted even by Chris Whitty that Covid isn’t a risk to children!

*excepting, very rarely, the clinically vulnerable

My concern is what other variants are like. We don't know if it will still to affect kids more seriously as time goes by (and they become the main infectious group in society).

@StarryEyeSurprise

I have a colleague ( young, has had one vaccination) who is now very ill from Covid.

I also had a parent send their child in ( unwell) to school today and they were going to take them for a test after school.

Sigh.

I'm sorry to hear about your colleague @StarryEyeSurprise and wish them s speedy recovery.
How frustrating to have limped through to near the end of this extraordinary school year and been struck down now

But we can’t lockdown “just in case”. When there is no evidence of such a scenario.

There should be overwhelming evidence of risk and necessity to justify these measures. Actual evidence. Not “what if….”.

[quote Y0uCann0tBeSer10us]@StarryEyeSurprise I don't give measles much thought on a day to day basis, but if there were an outbreak locally, yes I would theoretically be worried about my children despite them having been vaccinated, because vaccines don't always take and Measles is really a very serious disease. Conversely I'm not at all worried about them getting COVID because every child in the country, indeed the world, has been completely immersed in it for a year and the evidence is very clear that if they got it, they would not be at significant risk from it. Indeed, they appear to be at significantly less risk of complications than from other viruses that circulate every year.[/quote]
I don't agree but will leave it at that.

Ive never felt as mixed up with anything as i do with covid. Everything i think changes day to day as every thought has a knock on effect somewhere else. I feel like my heads in a jumble.