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WouldBeGood · 14/05/2021 23:20

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Scottishskifun · 21/05/2021 09:47

@Icannever

We’re in England! It feels very exciting even though we’re just stopped at a service station
Yay enjoy your trip!

We are staying an extra few days as DH has his laptop with him and we figured we would make the most of it! Took DS to a farm yesterday with an indoor softplay with cafe his confidence is growing in them 😊

shouldistop · 21/05/2021 09:49

Ahhh softplay. I miss it so much! Grin

titsintiers · 21/05/2021 09:55

@Icannever

We’re in England! It feels very exciting even though we’re just stopped at a service station
Have a great time
ResilienceWanker · 21/05/2021 10:06

Well done to those of you escaping south! I'm beginning to regret not having done so... maybe the weather would be better. It's so dispiriting sitting here, watching the rain and wind, and having to have the heating on again. I don't think I'm ever going to dry out.

I'm fed up with everything too. It seems as if we're going backwards, even though the vaccines seem to be working really well. If only I could get one into me I wish they were clear at what point in the vaccine programme it'll be fine for them not to focus on "cases" and start looking at hospitals, deaths and so on. I assume the end of June normality is dead in the water now Sad I just feel like I should get on and do some stuff before it all gets taken away again. But that's kind of defeating the point, I'm sure. Meh.

riverrunning · 21/05/2021 10:20

Also trying to avoid glum feelings - my dh has had a bad reaction to the jab and 10 days later he's still in bed and really unwell.

The weather doesn't help! Heating on, searching for winter jumpers this morning.

Friend from northern Italy keeps emailing me to say he hopes to visit soon - I need a life swap 😀

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 21/05/2021 10:40

I'm also back to waking up feeling scared again and finding it really hard to focus. I just feel unsafe and like I have so little control over my life, completely at the mercy of the SG who can take away freedoms at the drop of a hat without any opposing voices that I can see. At least in Westminster the Tory backbenches are stopping the worst overreactions to every increase in viral infections. I just can't see a way out of this because the SG are still working on numbers of cases whether it translates to serious illness or not (maybe they're even still aiming for 'virtual elimination' despite that being essentially impossible), and since COVID will always be with us, so will the threat of restrictions.

IsurviveonCoffeeandWinein2021 · 21/05/2021 11:01

Anyone else feel like they just need to "keep the heid" so to speak? It's known infections would rise on opening. Hospitals still look very very good. I had an appointment at hospital for something I should have had last year and nurse was saying she's so glad to get back. It's been so quiet for them (clinic type scenario).

No mention of east ren on NS Twitter update. Supposed to be going to the courtyard over at rouken glen for a curry but can't see it happening.

Mass surge in vaccination, keep going the way we are and stop being scared.

ResilienceWanker · 21/05/2021 11:20

Really sorry to hear of your DHs reaction river. That sounds grim.

I agree that it should have been expected that infections would increase once things start opening up. In fact, I'd be pissed off if they didn't, or else why have we had the restrictions for so long if they don't actually decrease spread! But it is so frustrating that there seems to be panic every time they do, because it happens to coincide with a new variant which we don't know very much about (which then turns out to be pretty much the same as the previous version in terms of illness, vaccine effectiveness and so on). Ok, at some point the virus could vary into something different, but continued restrictions aren't going to prevent that or make it less annoying if it does (or make it more likely that vaccines will be modified to cope with that one too... likely very speedily, assuming it will be similar to the ones we have already). But they are going to scupper everyone's ability to cope with an actually more virulent/ transmissable version. It's like the boy who cried wolf, but in a lockdowny kind of way.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 21/05/2021 11:34

@ResilienceWanker

Really sorry to hear of your DHs reaction river. That sounds grim.

I agree that it should have been expected that infections would increase once things start opening up. In fact, I'd be pissed off if they didn't, or else why have we had the restrictions for so long if they don't actually decrease spread! But it is so frustrating that there seems to be panic every time they do, because it happens to coincide with a new variant which we don't know very much about (which then turns out to be pretty much the same as the previous version in terms of illness, vaccine effectiveness and so on). Ok, at some point the virus could vary into something different, but continued restrictions aren't going to prevent that or make it less annoying if it does (or make it more likely that vaccines will be modified to cope with that one too... likely very speedily, assuming it will be similar to the ones we have already). But they are going to scupper everyone's ability to cope with an actually more virulent/ transmissable version. It's like the boy who cried wolf, but in a lockdowny kind of way.

The point about people's ability to cope is a really interesting one, on a few levels. The sheer relentlessness of it is my biggest problem. There have been quiet periods (such as last summer or right now) where there is little/no COVID-related strain on the NHS and during these times people should be allowed their freedom. Think of it as storing up coping capacity for when the next COVID season inevitably starts and/or when an actually dangerous new strain emerges. It would benefit not only mental health but people's physical health to be able to get out and about and do more, all of which are needed when fighting disease. We should also be straight with people in Scotland, like Whitty et al. were a few months ago, that cases may rise but that doesn't necessarily mean 'panic' if the vaccines are successfully taking the strain, as seems to be the case currently.

As it is, I can unfortunately see NS 'two-more-week'ing us for the whole of the summer until the Indian variant disappears (which it might not of course), then come the autumn cases will rise again because it's seasonal and round we go again, having had no proper break, not given people a chance to truly relax, people are even less healthy generally, not given the NHS any chance to try and catch up etc... The same mistakes she made last summer in fact.

Scottishskifun · 21/05/2021 11:44

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us yep agree completely it's why we have booked so many trips to England and weekends away!

Going to make the most of our summer regardless! The no travel advice can go do one it doesn't apply to other places in the UK so why should it if I take a lateral flow test and know I don't have the virus before going places!

Also it doesn't apply if a wedding etc basically anything protected by human rights law....... So if I can travel to see 50-100 people for a wedding then my own little family unit can go on holiday!
Don't give two hoots done tests know I'm not infected!

Bytheloch · 21/05/2021 11:48

@Icannever

We’re in England! It feels very exciting even though we’re just stopped at a service station
🤣 yes, I was giddy at Tebay. The sun was shining too and lots of smiling faces around, it felt like being at a festival sat on those benches🙌🏻

Have a great trip.

ResilienceWanker · 21/05/2021 11:58

Yes, exactly! And businesses as well. If hospitality is in a hokey cokey of tier 2-3 all summer, many businesses just won't have the financial/ staff resilience to cope and go under. What must hotels in Glasgow be feeling, having to cancel bookings over half term whereas those in Edinburgh can still take guests from anywhere in the uk... I don't even want to think how nightclubs/ soft play are coping at the moment, especially given their peers in England are open, or planning to shortly.

Surely a solid period of limited restrictions now, using as much capacity as possible now may give them a bit of a reserve for the autumn/ winter.

riverrunning · 21/05/2021 12:08

Not only that, the weather hasn't been helpful for the tourist industry - the best day we've had this spring was the Sunday before reopening was allowed!

It's going to be one of those find the optimism weekends!

WouldBeGood · 21/05/2021 12:32

Think NS has been reading this thread: she’s trying to have more travel bans to bits of England 🙄🙄

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WouldBeGood · 21/05/2021 12:33

And another “week” for Glasgow.

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rookiemere · 21/05/2021 12:56

To be fair the new strain seems to be relatively under control and localised at the minute- if lots of people travel from Scotland to the impacted areas, it's not going to remain that way for long, and much as we wish it weren't so the driving measure at the minute is still new cases.
I don't know how many more two weeks I have in me, although I am going out for dinner tonight and indoor drinks beforehand at The Dome. I've decided to go upmarket as who knows how many drinking nights we've got.

On a side note I'd like to rail about all the coughing people at The Gyle, with a special mention for the Boots shop assistant who practically hacked all over my self serve check out in her efforts to infect not just the elderly person she was helping. Now I get that I'm sure the majority of these people have had a test and are covid free, but for the love of God if you have a cough at least understand that moving away from people whilst you're actively spluttering would be the correct thing to do.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 21/05/2021 13:06

That's just gross even in non-COVID times @rookiemere. Eww!

UmpteenthTime · 21/05/2021 13:15

Firstly, welcome to England to those of you who have crossed the border.
Weather isn’t great here so hope it’s a bit sunnier wherever you’re holidaying.
We’re coming up to Scotland next week but I’m totally gutted that our family in Glasgow can’t join us.
We were supposed to be getting together on one of the Scottish Islands which obviously won’t be happening now.
It’s so frustrating and disappointing.
Mind you, given the ongoing issues with the ferries, we might not make it over either but that’s a different rail.

Bytheloch · 21/05/2021 13:24

@WouldBeGood

Think NS has been reading this thread: she’s trying to have more travel bans to bits of England 🙄🙄
Note also, NS announced the Indian variant is now to be known as the April variant (I agree that’s probably a helpful change).

Yet, NS also referred to the Kent variant and how it arrived in Scotland in October.
Still to be known as the Kent variant.

A warm welcome to Scotland awaits all tourists this summer...🧐

latissimusdorsi · 21/05/2021 13:29

Have the scientists renamed it that @Bytheloch or just Scot Gov?

Scottishskifun · 21/05/2021 13:30

@WouldBeGood

Think NS has been reading this thread: she’s trying to have more travel bans to bits of England 🙄🙄
Might give people who have booked a get out Claus to cancel if they want to but reality is if people wish to go it's not going to stop them and just because NS says so doesn't mean there is anyway of enforcing it!

I don't think I would travel to a hot spot if for a random holiday but if my family were there I would still go just order tests before and on return!

Bytheloch · 21/05/2021 13:37

@latissimusdorsi

Have the scientists renamed it that *@Bytheloch* or just Scot Gov?
It appears to be a NS level change.
titsintiers · 21/05/2021 13:46

I think that the name change is welcome too, there are enough tensions in Glasgow due to bigotry right now.

Haudyourwheesht · 21/05/2021 13:51

I agree with the change. Especially with the areas in which it's prevalent, and the fact that it was EID recently I'm pretty sure there's quite a blame game going on.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 21/05/2021 13:53

*Note also, NS announced the Indian variant is now to be known as the April variant (I agree that’s probably a helpful change).

Yet, NS also referred to the Kent variant and how it arrived in Scotland in October.
Still to be known as the Kent variant.*

I actually agree with not naming these variants after particular ethnic groups, but it was quite noticeable and a bit jarring to have the April 02 variant and the 'Kent' variant in the same sentence multiple times.

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