The End is CerTEIRnly in Sight ...

[dancemom]

New thread, possibly the last?

@WouldBeGood

I just don’t see why the Tory government being a shower of fuckwits means that the SG is not 🤷🏻‍♀️

Don't think anyone is saying that at all.

I'm quite sure the SG didn't have the power to implement lockdowns until the Covid Act was passed by the UK Government. I'll see if I can find the Act online. Also, lockdowns can't happen without furlough and the SG doesn't have the power to borrow thus provide furlough.

Indeed, at one point the Scottish and Welsh Governments asked for the UK Government to borrow on their behalf in order to facilitate furlough but the UK Government refused until England went into lockdown.

Oh I'd forgot about that Starry!

The 25th March was when the queen gave assent to the Westminster Parliament Corona Virus Act.

Health is devolved. There was a similar statute enacted in Scotland and the regulations following thereon have been made by statutory instrument by the SG.

I know health is devolved, thanks. Are you saying the devolved nations could have implemented lockdowns earlier?

Yes, I am saying that. It’s the Coronavirus (Scotland) Act 2020 followed by various regulations

Within each devolved nation, the legal basis of the lockdown is different – as Aileen McHarg, Professor of Public Law at Durham Law School told FactCheck.

“The Scottish and Welsh Ministers are acting under UK legislation [the Coronavirus Act 2020 and the Public Health Act 1984, respectively].

It's a mute point anyway as devolved nations can't borrow.

So the new thread title will be?

@forfucksakenett

Finally, for the first time, someone admits on here that care homes wasn't a uniquely Scottish problem.

There's fuckwits and then there's complete and utter total fuckwits.

The SG are the former and Boris and his cronies are the latter.

And of course there is the utter total fuckwits that also use this as an opportunity to line their mate's pockets. I have a fairly significant problem with that.

The current rhetoric on this thread is very much that the UK Govt are doing a better job than the SG with little acknowledgement that some of the decisions made in Westminister have been monumentally stupid - closing schools with 12 hours notice being the one that immediately springs to mind.

@WouldBeGood

Quite *@Pootle40*

Jesus. I've just been on another thread where the hospitalisations is not understood. I give up.

I find it quite bizarre too @florafoxtrot but this board I find very anti restrictions generally speaking, and anti Nicola Sturgeon, so that is usually the way the conversations go.

I mean, can anyone hand in heart imagine NS saying 'let the bodies pile high in their thousands'?

Things have certainly gone wrong up here but the wilful incompetence and complete nonchalance towards human life...I've never sensed that here.

*moot point

And the point was whether Scotland could lockdown itself. It could.

Finding it is a separate matter.

Funding

I am anti restriction and anti SNP. I’m also anti Tory.

I've not either. I feel NS is trying. I don't feel Johnson is trying. I feel he's blustering and covering up. NS seems to admit a lot that she's made mistakes and she isnt perfect. Johnson doesn't feel like he needs to answer to us.

@WouldBeGood

*moot point

And the point was whether Scotland could lockdown itself. It could.

Finding it is a separate matter.

That awkward moment when you correct someone's spelling ... then make an error of your own. 🙄

Funding isn't a separate issue. Lockdown can't happen without funding.

Wouldbegood , what do you mean you're anti restriction? What do you think should have happened?

I'm horrified about what's been said by Cummings. Long suspected but now seemingly true.

There's fuckwits and then there's complete and utter total fuckwits

😂 Never thought I would see the day you called SNP/SG/NS a fuckwit @forfucksakenett 😉

@Scottishskifun if you had ever bothered to actually properly read my posts then you actually wouldn't be surprised at all. Instead you decided I was a groupie and that's what stuck 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don't mean that as cheekily as it reads but not sure how else to express it.

@SoMuchForSummerLove

I find it quite bizarre too *@florafoxtrot* but this board I find very anti restrictions generally speaking, and anti Nicola Sturgeon, so that is usually the way the conversations go.

I mean, can anyone hand in heart imagine NS saying 'let the bodies pile high in their thousands'?

Things have certainly gone wrong up here but the wilful incompetence and complete nonchalance towards human life...I've never sensed that here.

It is a truly vile statement and the whatabout culture just disregards these sorts of points which truly reveal what the Tory govt. think of the people.

Not what’s happened here @ssd. But no point getting into it, it is what it is.

[quote forfucksakenett]@Scottishskifun if you had ever bothered to actually properly read my posts then you actually wouldn't be surprised at all. Instead you decided I was a groupie and that's what stuck 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don't mean that as cheekily as it reads but not sure how else to express it. [/quote]
I do read your posts generally they always defend SG
You have had a very few elements you have vocalised as not adding up but not many. Wouldn't say groupie more cheerleader.

Indeed. It always just brushed aside on these threads yet they're our Government too and their decisions have monumentally affected our lives over the past two years.

I couldn't imagine Jean Freeman ( was that her name?) the health secretary giving millions to her family nor JS giving millions to friends and family.

The lack of border control was what caused huge economic disaster and the hundreds of thousands of lives lost. It's just so sad. Also ironic that this was to a back drop of 'hostile environment', Windrush and the changes for EU immigrants).