The End is CerTEIRnly in Sight ...

[dancemom]

New thread, possibly the last?

I hate to say it, but I think it's right to be cautious with a new strain.

Sadly though I don't think stopping the additional relaxations - which are mostly around being allowed to drink inside rather than out - will impact the figures at all, but will have a detrimental effect on the hospitality industry.

@charliebrown59

Yes India is a lovely example of what happens when rich countries go for vaccinating their entire adult population before deciding on making any real attempts to protect the world's vulnerable poor.

Exactly. Just as the WHO warned. It's an absolute disgrace.

Yes, the whole world needs a proper vaccine strategy organised by the WHO, until we sort that, we are condemned to repeat this pattern.

Maybe if we do slide back into lockdown that may finally force this to happen?

Yes I can understand the concerns, it's just that I don't think these restrictions have shown any impact. Only the full lockdowns have made much headway.

Onwards - let's try and enjoy what we can this weekend.

@RJnomore1

The daily record is reporting 6 people in Scotland hospitalised with the Indian strain AFTER vaccination.🙈

Jesus, that terrifies me

@charliebrown59

Yes India is a lovely example of what happens when rich countries go for vaccinating their entire adult population before deciding on making any real attempts to protect the world's vulnerable poor.

India had massive vaccination hesitation though (until the outbreak). There are countries which are steaming ahead with vaccinations via the COVAX scheme and have done large parts of the population through the donated vaccines Seychelles is one of them. 70% of the adult population now.

Should say that Seychelles used to be quite wealthy overall but has a huge poor disparity and a lot of income was based on tourism so its slipped down

Interesting - I didn't know that re India

And interestingly I've literally just read that the Seychelles have had a spike of covid cases despite this high vaccination rate.

Very worrying.

@ssd I'd hold off on the being terrified until you read it in a bit of a more reliable source than the Daily Record.

Worrying.

To the posters saying I'm terrified, can i just ask something. Im trying to decide if my anxiety is worse due to my situation or if my situation isnt the same as posters who aren't.
So...wouldbe, raspberry..are you both working outside the homeand is it customer facing? Do you both take busy public transport to work?

It's not worrying.

At present, the vaccines are proven to be 98% or something effective in stopping people dying.

Being vaccinated might not stop you catching Covid. But there is a LOT of evidence that it does stop a lot of transmission, and even if you're one of the unlucky people to be vaccinated and then catch Covid, you are very likely to be less badly affected and far less likely to end up in hospital.

It's a numbers game. 98% protection obviously means that 2% of people will still get ill, a smaller percentage of those people will need hospital treatment, and a smaller percentage of those admitted will need care in ICU or will die.

Stopping all deaths from Covid, forever, is unachievable. Hospitals can cope and are coping.

@forfucksakenett

And interestingly I've literally just read that the Seychelles have had a spike of covid cases despite this high vaccination rate.

Very worrying.

Of the cases in the Seychelles - 67% are unvaccinated, 33% have been vaccinated. Of hospitalisation 20% have been vaccinated none in hospital vaccinated have a serious case. ICU - no admissions of anyone vaccinated to date.

Reports available from CNN if interested but it does show that vaccines are working.

Raspberry and would be. Do you both work from home

@forfucksakenett

Worrying.

Rather than scare mongering I suggest reading the articles with the details

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/14/africa/seychelles-covid-vaccination-infection-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

@ssd

To the posters saying I'm terrified, can i just ask something. Im trying to decide if my anxiety is worse due to my situation or if my situation isnt the same as posters who aren't. So...wouldbe, raspberry..are you both working outside the homeand is it customer facing? Do you both take busy public transport to work?

I work from home and have done for about 15 years. I don't use public transport.

But I do have three children in secondary school who are mixing widely with other children each day, I volunteer once a week in a shop where I'm mixing closely with staff and customers, and am out and about doing as much as I'm allowed to.

24 cases out of 100,000 in my local area. So that's 0.024% of people with Covid. And 99.976% of people who don't have Covid. What's your chances of sitting next to one of those 24 people on the bus, given that most people with Covid, or in close contact with a positive case, self-isolate? And given that most people adhere to social distancing and wear their masks on public transport?

Theres another thread just now called sage emergency minutes

Worth a read

I think if you've a case bad enough to be in hospital and you have been vaccinated then that's pretty worrying.

20% of the cases in hospital being vaccinated cases isn't exactly low is it?

Nobody is suggesting hysteria here but I certainly think some caution is warranted given these figures.

Worth a read if you want to feed your anxiety.

I'd think you'd be better off making a cup of tea and reading the celeb gossip or sports news or something.

@Scottishskifun I did read it but thanks for your patronising comment. I forgot that only you can understand the written word and that only you are allowed to have an opinion on this.

Not scaremongering. It's being cognisant that some caution wouldn't go amiss.

I thought so raspberry. Its easy to sit at home and rubbish someone online for being worried. I work full time in retail, in a busy shop, customers constantly in your face with masks at their nose, coughing behind you, leaning over you. And getting public transport 10 times a week, now so busy all seats nearly full and people standing in the aisle.
So im out all the time, amongst people. And thats why im worried. Also i have kids that mix, thats unavoidable. I dont want to see whats happening but its really hard to get patronised on here by someone sitting at home with a cosy one day a week volunteer job.

@ssd

Theres another thread just now called sage emergency minutes

Worth a read

I just looked up that thread...

Started by the MOST scaremonger-y, most DOOM and GLOOM and most totally unhinged poster on the Covid board. And that's saying something.

Seriously SSD, just stop reading it. All you're doing is feeding your anxiety and catastrophising.

I’m really torn here.

Ssd my husband works for scotrail and he picked the virus up 5 weeks (?losing count) ago when cases were very low. He’s been off work for four weeks so far, he kindly passed it to me and I’ve been off over 3 weeks. We have what I think are described as moderate cases, he’s mildly asthmatic and has had steroids and two lots of antibiotics, I had raging fevers for over two weeks and antibiotics. We have been together 23 years and I’ve never seen him so ill. We will be ok but it’s been a shock, we are early 40s, fit healthy etc (despite his asthma he runs marathons normally)

BUT I believe we have just been very unlucky especially at this point after him working for a full year through two waves, to be ill now - or in the last few weeks. I believe we need to get back to normal life still for a host of reasons, health being one of them. This is wrong and unnatural and I can see people suffering from it.

But I’m going to honest, it’s put the wind right up me having it. It’s been brutal.

But SSD you are not listening. With rates so slow it doesn't matter if people are coughing and not wearing their masks over their noses. Because the chances of them having anything to pass on are miniscule.

I do one day a week (well, two mornings) in a shop face to face with the public and would have no anxiety at all about increasing that to two or three days, should time permit.

Worrying re vaccinated people in hospital but it depends how long ago they were vaccinated. Takes 3 weeks to build immunity so if they contracted the virus couple weeks after vaccination then they weren't protected yet