Anyone else unsure who to vote for?

[swiggless]

Used to be a Labour supporter but they don't stand in my constituency (or when they do, they come 5th or 6th). It's between SNP, Lib Dem and Tories (in that order) here. I physically can't vote for the latter two, however I'm not enthusiastic to vote SNP, despite voting for them previously. Greens aren't standing either. I hate the idea of spoiling my ballot but I genuinely don't know what to do. Anyone else in the same situation (not necessarily stuck between the same parties)?

No idea who I will vote for. It is just a shower of the brown stuff as far as I can see. I have previously voted libdem, from 2010 was exclusively an SNP voter. Just totally lost now. Starry and FFSnet do you think the SNP have done anything to support women over the last decade?

In the meantime NS has just remembered that there are children in poverty.

@SolitaryBee

No idea who I will vote for. It is just a shower of the brown stuff as far as I can see. I have previously voted libdem, from 2010 was exclusively an SNP voter. Just totally lost now. Starry and FFSnet do you think the SNP have done anything to support women over the last decade?

In short, yes. The child poverty payment, baby boxes, burseries for nursing, the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Bill, the Gender Pay Gap Action Plan, the Workplace Equality Fund, creating the Advisory Council of Women and Girls, £millions to support women returning to the workplace after domestic abuse.

The child poverty payment, baby boxes, burseries for nursing, the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Bill, the Gender Pay Gap Action Plan, the Workplace Equality Fund, creating the Advisory Council of Women and Girls, £millions to support women returning to the workplace after domestic abuse

Anything on gender and equality doesn’t help women. It helps men and men who identify as women.

What @StarryEyeSurprise said.

And what they haven't done that the Tories have is increase the severity of benefit sanctions which affect women disproportionately. They haven't introduced a benefit cap on children unless you can prove that child was the result of rape of course.

In fact, through the adjustments they made about the bedroom tax the SG have tried to mitigate it where they can.

People keep saying at least a Tory knows what a woman is when in actual fact trans folk are just further down their 'I couldn't give a fuck' list. Don't mistake this for caring about women.

@I0NA

The child poverty payment, baby boxes, burseries for nursing, the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Bill, the Gender Pay Gap Action Plan, the Workplace Equality Fund, creating the Advisory Council of Women and Girls, £millions to support women returning to the workplace after domestic abuse

Anything on gender and equality doesn’t help women. It helps men and men who identify as women.

Well that's not accurate but don't let the truth get in the way of your pithy response!

Ive voted snp before and will probably again. Couldnt vote tory if you paid me. Would love to vote for a strong Labour government but unfortunately cant just now. Fingers crossed things change..

Agreed @ssd

That's my natural voting home but sadly 🤷🏻‍♀️

Oh , I forgot that the SNP paid out the equal pay (GCC) that Labour had spent £45m fighting. I personally know five women who benefited from it.

And I forgot about the Tory government absolutely refusing to help the waspi women.

The Tories and their policies mean a real terms negative economic impact on huge numbers of vulnerable women.

Let's also not forget how women are viewed and treated by Tory MPs

Keep your knickers on and you won't get raped? Anyone remember that belter?

The party for women though!

I really don’t know .... I’m not pro independence so not going to vote green (which is what I did last few times).... can’t stand how they side with SNP all the time. Naturally to the left but may need to vote tactically- which I hate as feels so negative :(

Labour on the constituency as best placed to beat the SNP

Either Tory or Libdem on the list as in my area best placed to maximise unionist MSPs

Is there anyone that's voting Tory based on their policies?

Won’t vote for any independence supporting party. Vote for labour here is wasted. Have voted Lib Dem previously but can’t bring myself to now. Will not vote Tory.

@WaxOnFeckOff

In the meantime NS has just remembered that there are children in poverty.

Actually called it ‘the scandal of child poverty’ yesterday. Whose scandal? 🧐

Actually called it ‘the scandal of child poverty’ yesterday.
Whose scandal? 🧐

Well exactly. Fiscal autonomy was on the table but they couldn't run to London fast enough to say we really don't want that despite constantly mentioning that we need it. 14 years in power, millions pissed up the wall, but won't someone please think of the children..."

Really? Full fiscal autonomy - who signed that off in WM?

@RedactedTaeFeck

*Actually called it ‘the scandal of child poverty’ yesterday. Whose scandal? 🧐*

Well exactly. Fiscal autonomy was on the table but they couldn't run to London fast enough to say we really don't want that despite constantly mentioning that we need it. 14 years in power, millions pissed up the wall, but won't someone please think of the children..."

Alex Salmond said before indeyref1 that they’d have to get independence through before full benefits were devolved as there’d be no hope once they were . So he did have some fiscal responsibility but then blew it by relying on $100 barrels of oil which was especially rich as he’d been a banker - just proves they will say anything to get independence 😂😂😂

You'd have to be following politics closely years ago. It was signalled that full fiscal autonomy was on the table from WM and John Swinney flew down to London as fast as he could to say please no.

Can you link please @annabelindajane.

@RedactedTaeFeck

You'd have to be following politics closely years ago. It was signalled that full fiscal autonomy was on the table from WM and John Swinney flew down to London as fast as he could to say please no.

Ok 👌

Same, I'm officially politically homeless.

Used to vote Labour and while I like Sarwar and my local candidate I can't put my name to their stance on women.

Would never vote Tory, can't stand the local Tory MSP.

SNP, I'm unsure on Independence currently but ditto their stance on women.

This is basically word for word my thoughts on it all.

Voted labour then SNP, but I don't feel like I can vote for SNP anymore.

I want someone who understands the definition of women and priorities education and the recovery. Do they even exist?

@swiggless this thread has changed a bit from what you asked, but to come back to your question, can you write bullet point lists of pros and cons as you see it? On manifesto/policy, track record, how good your incumbent MSP is locally etc. I love a good list to help clear the waters on a muddy situation!

I don't think the perfect party with clean record on everything exists, and if they did nobody would vote for them .

Unfortunately Politics is a grimy old world and I sometimes feel they get paid the money to make unpleasant decisions so we don't have to.

At least by voting squarely for whatever is most likely to block Indyref 2, I can focus purely on that, rather than the more questionable aspects of the party I am
Voting for.

In terms of positives for Tories , the main one I can think of is at less there is a wing who wants lockdown lifted for the economy right away, not saying I agree with them but it does mean that any desire to be ultra cautious is tempered, which simply isn't happening in Scotland.

I must admit I’m liking Anas.