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The Tierany of Tiers

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dancemom · 11/03/2021 18:39

Teirtastic times ahead ....

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RaindropsSplashRainbows · 18/03/2021 13:54

Ah, I'd stopped following for a while.

It's all going in the right direction.

speedtalker · 18/03/2021 13:55

Yes, you're right, Resilience, I'm hoping it's a decent upward trend which will make us all feel positive, before the lull.
I love that it's over 2million in Scotland now.

dancemom · 18/03/2021 14:02

For comparison

581,855 new vaccine doses registered in 🇬🇧 yesterday

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 392,769 1st doses / 90,906 2nd doses
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 41,184 / 10,221
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 22,904 / 15,226
NI 5,389 / 3,256

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speedtalker · 18/03/2021 14:06

Does that mean we're clawing our way back up the percentage point of national vaccines? Scotland's back in the game!

(Feeling irrationally cheerful after sadness at the vaccine delay at this particular moment in time)

Flossy05 · 18/03/2021 14:18

Does anyone know when trades people are allowed back into peoples homes? Is it 26th April? So confused by all the changes Confused

ResilienceWanker · 18/03/2021 14:32

Hope so speedtalker! And the UK total I think is the second highest ever - so that's great too!

flossy - I think 26th April too. Desperate to get doors on our built in wardrobes that have been sitting doorless and sad for about 18 months now. My CLOTHES are getting DUSTY I tell you. How this hasn't been seen as urgent work by NS is beyond me.

rookiemere · 18/03/2021 14:42

From 26th April 4 people from 2 families allowed to socialise indoors but only in restaurants not homes, inside homes is allowed from 17th May.

Bytheloch · 18/03/2021 14:56

@rookiemere

From 26th April 4 people from 2 families allowed to socialise indoors but only in restaurants not homes, inside homes is allowed from 17th May.
And this is exactly why the restrictions are ridiculous. Wonder what changes in our home environment between the 26th April and 17th May?

Just like the travel between council areas at the moment, when we’re all on level4 (I think?🧐) arbitrary nonsense. What will happen if you have 5 people in your home from 17th May?
Jeez, if only we could be allowed to be grown ups.

Flossy05 · 18/03/2021 14:57

Thank you resilience- dusty clothes are most definitely urgent work!
Desperate to have some decorating done. I see my painter out and about but best wait until it is officially allowed.

rookiemere · 18/03/2021 14:59

@Bytheloch tbh this time round I'm kind of ignoring it. If it's safe enough for me to meet my pal at the coffee shop, it's safe to meet at home. I pretty much followed the arbitrary rules last time but this time not so much.

Bytheloch · 18/03/2021 18:26

@WaxOnFeckOff

In forth valley and cat 9 (50-54), got letter today for first jab next week.
Matching profile here, also got letter today🙌🏻 Post arrived late this afternoon (probably too busy locally delivering Neil Oliver’s post 🤣 if you’ve been following the story of how letters are addressed to him. )
speedtalker · 18/03/2021 18:46

I know someone in Argyll who received the letter with appointment next week, in their 30s! No underlying health issues.

Lockdownbear · 18/03/2021 19:14

I really find it frustrating that areas like Argyll and Western Isles where Covid rates are really low are ahead of the densely populated high risk covid areas.

More effort should have been put into ensuring the city's were ahead rather than behind the rural areas when it came to the vaccine.

speedtalker · 18/03/2021 19:26

I know. I don't want to begrudge anyone the vaccine, the more the merrier, but it would make sense to squash a pandemic by hitting hardest the areas with most infection.

icanboogieboogiewoogie · 18/03/2021 19:27

@Lockdownbear

I really find it frustrating that areas like Argyll and Western Isles where Covid rates are really low are ahead of the densely populated high risk covid areas.

More effort should have been put into ensuring the city's were ahead rather than behind the rural areas when it came to the vaccine.

I'm glad the elderly in these areas were done - there's an extra layer of vulnerability built in given that, in the islands, being moved to a hospital can be entirely weather dependant. Getting sick during a storm can be literally a matter of life and death.

However, I've a friend who's just 40 (no underlying conditions) who's got her appointment soon, and I do question that. They should either be rerouting vaccines to areas who haven't done their vulnerable groups, or just get cracked on with second doses.

user1487194234 · 18/03/2021 19:27

@Lockdownbear

I really find it frustrating that areas like Argyll and Western Isles where Covid rates are really low are ahead of the densely populated high risk covid areas.

More effort should have been put into ensuring the city's were ahead rather than behind the rural areas when it came to the vaccine.

Absolutely
ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 18/03/2021 19:34

Re tradesmen: a friend had to postpone a kitchen refurb, originally due to start in late January (after being postponed from the previous lockdown) - the company are starting at hers on Monday ie 22 March. She's been pretty careful - no visitors throughout - but she's over the moon. I suspect it depends on the tradesmen whether they will come out or not.

Scottishskifun · 18/03/2021 20:20

It's a difficult one I completely understand the thought process of concentrating on dense populated areas with high infection rates for vaccines may seem to make sense but a lot of rural areas and Islands its a helicopter or many many hours by road if seriously unwell and in need of ICU.

The people in ICU at the moment aren't just the very elderly there are 30/40 year olds.
If there is an outbreak on the islands very quickly the entire NHS is overwhelmed and has happened in the course of the pandemic with other health authorities having to offer help so the effects of a outbreak have potential to overwhelm very very quickly.

My area is way way down the list in vaccinations and I do find it frustrating but I don't begrudge other areas for getting through their lists.

dancemom · 18/03/2021 21:49

@Windyone I got my appointment through tonight for 4 weeks time 🙌🏼

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Cocacola12 · 18/03/2021 22:49

@Flossy05 my OH is a tradesman and is pretty much working as normal (although his trade is gas so most of the work is deemed essential) are his all the tradespeople he knows (which definitely don’t fall under the essential catogory...)

Cocacola12 · 18/03/2021 22:50

*as are

Windyone · 18/03/2021 22:53

@dancemom 🙌🏻 I’ve still not heard. Will call tomorrow. I’m 49 so I’d have hoped to be done within 4 weeks anyway 🤷🏻‍♀️

MrsAmaretto · 19/03/2021 07:53

@Lockdownbear our population is largely elderly, we have 3 High dependency beds and no ICU. For me to go to ICU a team will have to be flown from Aberdeen, taking a whole bunch of specialists away from the hospital for most of the day. Our population also don’t turn down the jag and go on buses and get lifts to get it. There’s no moaning about having to travel 40miles to our centre, people just get on with it. I’ve seen plenty moaning about people having to travel across Edinburgh

Yes 40% of our population have been done but that’s only 11,000 people. All our care home residents have received 2 doses -amazing! But actually that’s less than 100 people across 6/7 care homes.

I actually think it would be better if they let rural areas crack on and get there population done because

  1. they could lift all our restrictions and use us as a test bed to see what actually happens before doing the same to the mainland
  2. the logistics of getting the vaccine here are considerable, they can then free up resources centrally
  3. our staff could be realised to work in mass centres in urban areas.

Another thing to note is our vaccinators are band 5s and above. They don’t need any supervision and crack on doing 70 jags a shift. Other boards are using band 3s who require supervision and can only jag patients pre allocated to them. They get through less patients per shift.

RaspberryCoulis · 19/03/2021 08:14

[quote Cocacola12]@Flossy05 my OH is a tradesman and is pretty much working as normal (although his trade is gas so most of the work is deemed essential) are his all the tradespeople he knows (which definitely don’t fall under the essential catogory...)[/quote]
I contacted a bathroom company a couple of weeks ago as we've had the cash put aside for a refurbishment for a while. Non-essential, in that it's not leaking.

They have been working throughout this lockdown since Christmas, with some changes such as their showroom being closed and appointment only - we were the only family in there at the time. They're really busy too, once we'd agreed the plan they earliest they could fit us in is July.

I don't understand why non-essential trades were banned, whenn you have a plumber or joiner in, you don't follow the round the house all day.

Scottishskifun · 19/03/2021 08:34

@MrsAmaretto completely agree I think there is a bit of a lack of understanding that even the big Islands don't have highly specialist departments such as ICU and that means a helicopter!

My son was in neonatal when he was born, there was a baby from Orkney and 2 from Shetland in the same neonatal room.

Would love the Islands to complete and for you guys to come to Grampian we are way down the list in terms of jabs delivered!

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