Guilt Free Railing 3

[WouldBeGood]

Looks like railing is still needed.

Here is the judgment feee zone to do it.

I know. Just feeling the pressure of paying for everything

Otoh frasersmummy it's not as if they ever applied the earlier looser rules. If they didn't intimate tighter rules were necessary and dream up some excuse they'd look even more ridiculous.

England has same infection rates on much higher testing than us now. A lot of agitation going on to accelerate their exit from lockdown. By May either the virus will have won regardless of vaccination or will be in full retreat. Either way I can't see the "ever lockdown" position surviving.

Have to wedge in some completely unrelated railing cos I need to get it off my chest but it's somewhat niche. Watching Eddie Izzard last night doing wrong theology. He reckoned all the monarchs who got beheaded couldn't have been chosen by God at all unless as he claimed Jesus had failed to manage the internet connection at the crucial moment. That's clearly nonsense cos look what happened to Jesus. Feel much better having shared. I went to sleep in front of the telly listening to the nonsense (also a bit confused that the BBC were billing it as "all new" when I've already seen it and Eddie was still a proud "action movie loving Trannie" in his words). Woke up half way through Newsnight and it just felt like a natural continuation of the surreal nonsense.

Groovee once you get Mr G home if he needs diverting I have an endless supply. [sadlylackingbaconrollemoji] I'm so old I used to see Eddie Izzard busking in Covent Garden.

Small business owners here too Nipoleon, it's exhausting.

I think we just have to hope that a mostly vaccinated population plus whatever natural and post infection immunity people might have is enough to put R below 1 while we're not locked down. It not convinced it is. But these new tiers seem, to me, to be considering the increased transmission of the variant but not the reduced risk of infection.

I said on the other thread that it's too early to be worrying about this now. Hopefully case numbers will continue to go down, and even if they don't go down to the very low levels seemingly required, there's an election coming up so she'll need to do something to sweeten the electorate.

In some good news DH - whose family originated from an Eastern European country originally - was swithering about voting for independence and SNP as he thought a small plucky country deserved its freedom. Now having seen the inconsistencies between Scotland and England in handling this, he doesn't want further differences and difficulties travelling between the two countries, plus the fiasco of the Salmond /Sturgeon debacle means he is decidedly anti independence now .

Harsh measures at the end of April are unlikely to be proportionate and I hope they see that at the time. I know it doesn't help hospitality but people are not going to continue not seeing vaccinated relatives and going into others homes when it isn't justified.

DH and I have lots of E European friends and contacts. Most are anti-EU and want the freedom to live in the whole of the UK. Not met any who are SNP minded except when it's the "done thing" to fake it which I see regularly - I've even been known to nuance my own views for a quiet life and I'm 100% Scottish and have lived in the same place for 20 years.

@StatisticallyChallenged

Small business owners here too Nipoleon, it's exhausting.

I think we just have to hope that a mostly vaccinated population plus whatever natural and post infection immunity people might have is enough to put R below 1 while we're not locked down. It not convinced it is. But these new tiers seem, to me, to be considering the increased transmission of the variant but not the reduced risk of infection.

It is. I'm not usually a moaner but it's hard to stay positive all the time. I'll go and have a word with myself.

She might still change these levels to win back public favour.

Glasgow will be level 4 for ages....maybe level 3 at some point.

But Glasgow is where her voters are!

Everyone will be on the train to Helensburgh again....

posted this on the wrong thread lol

@Dinnafashyersel

you've only given me an excuse (see what I did there?) to share this again! I still think we have a silent majority here in Scotland!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wihaFybOrKw

I don't think there is a "wrong thread" for that clip... 😁

it does seem really unfair that places like Glasgow, who naturally have a higher population, shops and businesses, are put into the highest levels. Its not going to be as easy for them to get out of those levels.

@jabbathebutt

it does seem really unfair that places like Glasgow, who naturally have a higher population, shops and businesses, are put into the highest levels. Its not going to be as easy for them to get out of those levels.

Someone made a suggestion last week (can't recall if was on this thread) that maybe they need to target speeding up the vaccines in areas with stubbornly higher rates

Someone made a suggestion last week (can't recall if was on this thread) that maybe they need to target speeding up the vaccines in areas with stubbornly higher rates

My suggestion and I absolutely stand by it. It's the only way out for the highly densely populated areas.

I think it’s a good suggestion @Lockdownbear

It’s not like Glasgow is Sodom and Gomorrah and everyone is living it up. There are just many, many more of us than in other places and we live closer together. So of course a virus will spread more easily.

I recall a discussion on the new levels based on WHO figures ...along lines of who were looming at different circumstances and sg were trying to fit their guidance in when it didn’t really fit scotland at all anyway. Was it not accounting for vaccinations or not considering testing. Can anyone give me a brief way to explain this to some relatives as feel this needs to be more widely known. SG is saying it’s due to new variant and people are scared still and accepting govt and particularly NS is trying to protect us when I feel the approach is extremely risk adverse and isn’t giving enough weight to non-covid factors like mental health education etc as has been discussed previously.

I’m honestly at a loss as to how scotland will ever “move on”. I’m in forth valley area and we seem to be stubbornly high in pockets but it also changes frequently (esp clacks was top of table doe a while but has dropped again and Stirling and Falkirk performing worse). I see no way that we’ll be out of the level 4 ever at this rate. Even if we do isn’t level 1 still no inside mixing?? I just want to go to my (vaccinated) relatives and have a chat inside with them. I feel more and more will stop following any of the rules. I know I went 8 miles from my council boundary this week when I’d been very ridged in following the 5 miles in the past. I felt no guilt. The rules have stopped making sense to me. I didn’t feel I was harming anyone else (we were outside in deserted area walking for a start!). I was relieved last year when we locked down to “safe the nhs” I was genuinely anxious and worried and was more than happy to play my part and stuck completely to the rules. Now it seems pointless and excessive and actually quite harmful.

It's us in the Forth Valley at the moment that can't get out the bit. Last year we were pretty low consistently and unfairly in higher tiers. We have been in the red since Christmas.

Also agree densely populated high rate areas should be vaccinated first. I don’t understand the whole everyone by age (after over 60s say). It should be some kind of risk based approach then eg those working out of home (police for a start!) and then based on prevalence in areas. So forth valley as I said needs a boost as it’s been performing consistently poorly since Christmas and the. of course Glasgow and the densely populated areas like that. It’s surely more logical to get the people in the areas where there is covid vaccinates first over and above people in areas where there is very very little covid to be caught.

@jabbathebutt I'm in Helensburgh and I've got to the stage I don't care if everyone comes down here. The whole thing is a farce! Just open us up and get on with it.

@Nipoleonthenoncommital no need for positivity here. You’re allowed to feel crap. 💐

And everyone who’s fed up.

@Dinnafashyersel I saw that Eddie Izzard thing was on: even the title gave me the rage 😂

I agree with more densly populated areas being vaccinated first. It makes more sense for the age 30+ to get done in Glasgow than it does for th 80 year olds that live in village near Altnahara (for example) where 10 people live there.

The thought of getting to the end of April and still being as tightly restricted as we are is thoroughly depressing?

Is big Nic on today?

It's FM questions on a Tuesday so she should be? I think Swinney is a bit busy to stand in also...😂

Statement to parliament today at 2.20 I think. I'm fucking fed up today. Another day of sitting in the house on the laptop.

She needs to let all the other kids back to school today.

I think vaccinating areas with stubbornly high numbers is a great idea, and they should include prisons in that. Some folk living elsewhere will be raging though and will attribute the vaccines to trying to improve her chances in SNP regions.

@Lockdownbear I thought it was a great suggestion!
How do we vote you in

@Lockdownbear I think they might have been listening to you! I’m in filthy Lanarkshire and saw something yesterday about a big drive to vaccinate given the higher rates.